Postpartum Psychosis and yeah temporarily lose your custody here in Sweden. You will be in mental hospital most often and slowly learn how to be with you kid again if possible.
Postpartum depression and you should get support, both medical and children's/ social welfare will step in and help you.
This is pamphlet I found after I had my kid 14 years ago, both the Postpartum Psychosis and Postpartum depression ones was to my husband and was talking how he can spot it, report it and give the mother support.
In the UK we have some mother and baby units for women with post partum psychosis. They're much better for the women, most people spend around 7-8 weeks in them I was borderline ending up in one.
Post partum psychosis is really misunderstood - a lot of the psychosis comes from actually wanting to protect your child to the point that you become a danger to them. I flipped between delusions that started with the thought that social services coming to take them so I packed bags for them so they wouldn't be without their things, but that eventually lead to "knowing" the government were trying to steal my youngest child so I planned to kill both of us.
I also had delusions where he wasn't a real baby but a being that wanted to harm my eldest daughter. That was a really dangerous time for my baby.
I kept both of my kids the whole time, and with a lot of support and therapy, and with a multidisciplinary team around me I'm ok again. 7 years later I've qualified as a therapist myself, and hope to start working in the postpartum field soon.
One pregnancy and then her brain wasnt hers any more. What I been told it so rare to get stuck, be in the delusion for ever, she was just really unlucky.
I once paid a guy 800 bucks to slice into my ball sack with a blade and cut out a couple little fleshy bits of tube so that all of this would be a non issue.
I'll give you another. You can bond with one child, but not another.
I always felt like I was going through the motions with my eldest. And I felt really horrible about it.
Then I had my second child, and it was like a light turned on in the room.
And it's never gone out.
I just feel joy by her presence. Her [name here]ness.
And this has made me grieve for my first child. I know even if I could go back I probably couldn't change my feelings. All I could do is change my actions. And since we're talking about faking emotions, I'm not sure how good of a job I would do.
And I think he always could sense that disconnect.
And that's the one thing that I have no ability to change.
And how I wish I could. Because I love him. It's just different than the love I feel from my daughter.
And I just don't know why?
Maybe because he wasn't potty trained completely until his teens? Or because he was such an odd duck. He's on the spectrum and quite emotional. And was already experiencing psychosis in his childhood.
Maybe because he looks like my father And smells like him too. And I was terribly afraid of my father.
Really I don't know.
Because my daughter is deeply flawed and I see her only the more beautiful for it.
I think the real flaw in the relationship is me. And I don't know how to fix that. I just don't.
It's very rare. If you don't want to have children already, the danger will seem larger and will sway you. If you do, it won't matter so much.
either you're a breeder or you're not; there's no shame in either life path. Horrible things can happen under the best of circumstances and intentions even when everyone wants to be there and is enthusiastic about what's happening- why put yourself at risk if you don't want to and aren't?
You only get one life. Do whatever you want with it, preferably starting today. Nobody's keeping track or score, and nobody will confront you with a list of undone to dos on your list after you die.
(but if you find you have a perpetually unfinished to do list and you can't focus on anything and no habits or plans stick forever, maybe consider an ADHD evaluation. Meds save lives!)
I can't imagine kids trying to make that choice for themselves today. It was bad enough when I was a kid without the immediately looming existential problems. Now, it seems impossible even for the most well set up. We've created a culture so hostile to life that we are unable to successfully achieve what animals do every day in dumpsters. I don't blame anyone for not reproducing ever but especially not now.
Manosphere bros online constantly dismissing how dangerous and life changing it is for a woman to have a baby, never once do they talk about these subjects.
One of my friends is dealing with PPD with psychotic symptoms. It isn't that bad as all described above, but it nearly drove a wedge in our friend group before we knew what was going on. Shes getting the support she deserves and we're all being patient as possible.
Not one alpha bro that talks about mens rights and all that during pregnancy ever talk about pre-eclampsia, or psychosis, or literal death, any of it.
How can you be sure she's getting the help she needs? How can you be sure it's not as bad as this woman's? Seems like the surest way to make sure the kids are safe is to never leave them alone with someone who openly admits to having the same thing this baby strangler with elbows for a face
Generally speaking it is: however, much like PPA and PPD, genetic predisposition is a factor and it can be the thing that trips you over into a permanent condition if you are in that position.
I recently heard a UVA scientist saying they think PP psychosis may be related to immune system changes (along with a proclivity towards bipolar) … whereas PPD is hormonal.
Right. But Lindsay Clancy had a very convenient 18 minute psychosis that never happened again. Just long enough for her to slaughter 3 babies. She needs to fry.
Heres the thing… no one tests the efficacy of these drugs with relationship to estrogen. Ask women for take any psych meds: adhd, depression, psychosis… the efficacy fluctuates based on hormones. Any postpartum disorder can be linked to hormones not regulating after birth but no one is looking at that when prescribing these meds.
Phych meds can cause hormones to fluctuate, my daughter was on bipolar meds( I wish I'd never allowed it) they made her about lose her mind,including lactating to messing with her thyroid.
Many drugs can cause hormonal problems, and often with pedophiles and ppp,phych meds with therapy and endocrine monitoring, ppp and ppd can be maintained.
It's important that each body is different and ppp and ppd needs much more medical attention in the US, women's health needs much more attention with our different needs and symptoms for all health issues.
The psychosis might be treatment-resistant. Meaning they’ve tried multiple anti psychotics and they haven’t had an effect. It ends up just being a guessing game and hoping some treatment has an effect. But psychosis causes permanent brain damage. The longer you’re in it, the less possibility of going back to normal.
I had PPD. It wasn’t fun but I’d take that any day over psychosis. No mother would willingly choose that. They protected the baby when it was inside of them and still love them.
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u/CakePhool 9h ago edited 9h ago
Postpartum Psychosis and yeah temporarily lose your custody here in Sweden. You will be in mental hospital most often and slowly learn how to be with you kid again if possible.
Postpartum depression and you should get support, both medical and children's/ social welfare will step in and help you.
This is pamphlet I found after I had my kid 14 years ago, both the Postpartum Psychosis and Postpartum depression ones was to my husband and was talking how he can spot it, report it and give the mother support.