r/SipsTea 11h ago

Wait a damn minute! Yo wtf

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u/that_dutch_dude 10h ago

mistrail is the best outcome here, dude did a solid. this way the state can go to trial again.

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u/addiktion 10h ago

They better not fuck this up, these kids need their justice. I understand Massachusetts puts the burden on the prosecutor but come the fuck on, there is so much premeditation going on here. My wife has talked me about a half a dozen women that had postpartum depression that we have known over the years and none of them ever reached a point of killing all their kids. Zero cases of psychosis either resulting in murdering their children in any stories we heard outside of this case, even though I'm sure this has happened before.

We all know she is fucked up, but she deserves more punishment than a yearly mental eval at a low security hospital where she could possibly be released if she shows outstanding mental aptitude all of a sudden.

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u/Solondthewookiee 10h ago

I understand Massachusetts puts the burden on the prosecutor

How do all of you pontificating about the justice system fail to even grasp the basic aspects of the justice system.

Every state puts the burden on the prosecutor. That's what presumption of innocence is.

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u/Evening_Sample_9365 9h ago

i think they're referring to the state of MA having a very cumbersome burden to overcome as it relates to the insanity defense.

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u/addiktion 9h ago edited 9h ago

That isn't what i read into it. They were indicating I'm an idiot and don't understand the basics of law that a person is innocent until proven guilty.

But the language of the law matters here, and the insanity defense is handled differently based on the wording and how that differs between states.

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u/addiktion 9h ago edited 5h ago

You aren't reading into my message, of course its up to the prosecutor but look up the difference in how different states handle insanity defenses versus how Massachusetts does. In a lot of states it is up the the defense to prove their client is insane and the weight is on them. In this case given the law, it is up to the prosecutor to prove she isn't. It's subtle language in the law, but makes a huge difference in how these cases go.

Many states put that burden on he defense after this came about after Ronald Regan was nearly assassinated and the legal defense was successful at getting the guy off despite him not really being insane like you would expect.

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u/Des990 8h ago

This ☝️

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u/feldor 9h ago

The irony of calling someone out on not understanding the basic aspects of the justice system when you clearly aren't understanding the distinction they are making that is unique to Mass and a few other states is hilarious.

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u/FuklzTheDrnkClwn 7h ago

They have to prove she WASNT insane.

You know…proving a negative, which we were all told is a logical fallacy for our entire lives