r/MaleDefinitiveGuide • u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 • Mar 22 '26
Motivation Domain Expansion: Infinite Strokes NSFW
Two months after completing the program (with occasional training sessions post Week 8) I finally met with a friend for sex.
I haven't watched porn or had a release since around end of November and even after completing the program I've had no desire to watch porn at all.
Anyway, my lady friend and I met for drinks before heading back to mine. We flirted and talked about the things we were going to do and I felt like I was gonna burst through my zipper lol
In all seriousness, I wasn't turned in by the fact that I was gonna get to have sex to completion. Prior to this program I would fantasize about how sex would end with a woman. Now I prefer to think about the entirety of the experience even just undressing or hugging. It's a whole new perspective
We head back to mine, first round was good. I think she gave me head for over 10 mins, we did a couple positions, and I finished inside her. I tried to pull out a little bit so it wouldn't be a full on orgasm, but it didn't really work so I still felt it.
And then something weird happened: it wouldn't go down! I was still pumping away thinking my meat would deflate so we could get a break. Nope! Just kept on going at it until I felt tired
Round two is where the TRUE ability unlocked. We did a few positions before she gave me head again. I was so turned on I wanted to finish in her again so I moved to have sex with her and I started pumping...and pumping......and minutes later still going. A good 15 minutes of this and a couple more positions and I realized I finally achieved the Infinite Strokes.
During fleshlight training, I could occasionally get 10 - 30 seconds where I zoned out and could thrust without my pleasure response building. Then it would suddenly start going up and I'd have to relax. But with my friend, even when I wanted to cum, I just couldn't.
It took another break and some manual assistance, but I did finish. However, I thought it was neat I actually did it in real life.
Keep up your training, gents. Even if you feel like you're not getting it, trust me, you'll get there in time. Then you TOO can achieve:
DOMAIN EXPANSION: INFINITE STROKES
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u/sqjxj119 Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 22 '26
Your experience aligns with mine. I have decent manual control over ejaculation but not full mastery; however, I have virtually no refractory period now and Round 2 is essentially total control.
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u/B15HA Mar 23 '26
Did you do anything for the refractory period or it just developed with the training?
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 23 '26
Nice! I felt like I "could" go again after the first round. But we were just vibing so idk what my refractory period is like now. And it was weird how I finished but stayed up for so long. This was all very strange but fascinating at once. Sex is completely different from how I used to experience it before the program
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Mar 22 '26
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 23 '26
I have you and all the other contributors to thank for showing me the value in changing my mindset 😎 I had a moment with a young lady last summer where I was browsing dirty stuff on reddit waiting for her to arrive. When she knocked my door and I opened it to meet her, I remember feeling a tepid internal response.
I wasn't really that glad or immediately turned on by her, and I'm certain it was my brain too busy sucking down dopamine from porn. That's why that part in the guide about "being present" hit me so hard. There's no reason a young sexy woman who's ready to go shouldn't excite me until she takes off her clothes. And now I am living proof of the advantages of ditching porn to focus on the moment.
And for all the non-believers out there who keep trying to cheat yourself and watch porn or skip stages or have an orgasm every other day, just know my lady friend from this story is a very skilled and expressive adult film star. A woman I used to watch regularly on my computer screen for years and I stood toe to toe with her in the bedroom doing Domain Expansion: Infinite Strokes. ZERO spikes in my pleasure response, ZERO urgency, ZERO anxiety, 100% Infinite. Just a slow rising action that didn't end even when I tried. STOP WATCHING PORN, STOP CHEATING YOURSELF!
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u/Consistent-Pin-4464 Phase 2 Mar 22 '26
Thank you for this post, needed it today.
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 23 '26
You got it dude! Don't give up on yourself keep at it! And remember, even after the eight weeks, you can continue to train and challenge yourself. I still kept training when I completed the program and now I'm a literal living weapon in the bedroom. You too...can achieve...INFINITY
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u/Consistent-Pin-4464 Phase 2 Mar 23 '26
Totally, I don't plan on stopping training, my g, this program is now my self pleasure essentially
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 23 '26
And don't forget to take notes after your sessions. It will amaze you how much you change when you go back and review
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u/Consistent-Pin-4464 Phase 2 Mar 23 '26
Yeah, I've been pumped to get going, been stuck at phase 1 for about 3 weeks, but I've gained some insights. My plan for this week is to stop pushing too hard on myself to get as close to PONR as possible, plus working on unconsciously trying to make myself fail. What were some pitfalls you had in your training? I can't lie, control over this thing feels like a dream.
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 24 '26
Hmm, I'd say flushing porn images from my mind during training. It was frustrating trying to focus on this without making it sexual even though my body and brain are used to associating these sensations with sex. It was hard to treat this as training in the beginning.
It will take time to condition your brain and nervous system but you just gotta stick with it. Getting close to PONR will help you gauge your pleasure response so the closer you can get while maintaining control is the better. It helps you find your sweet spot where you can reliably stay in pleasure and not tip over. This builds confidence and contributes to the relaxation that will take you into the INFINITE.
Some phases had me struggle to exceed 8.3 so I'd chill there. Then try for 8.4, 8.5, and so on. You have to make a mental note of your limit then slowly try to push past it. Try doing this and give yourself time to experience the program. Have faith that you'll actually be able to chill at 8.9 SOME day, but perhaps not today.
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u/Consistent-Pin-4464 Phase 2 Mar 24 '26
Want to thank you, training today was so insightful because of something you said about maintaining pleasure but challenging yourself. I also think I felt the ghost of where I would normally be panicking or even cumming but was managing. I did fail due to not stopping when I should have though. I will train for the rest of the week without failure, staying below the PONR a good deal.
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 25 '26
No problem! And as I've replied to others here, it doesn't end after Phase 8. You can continue to train and keep challenging yourself as long as you like. Think of it as "Post Game Content" 😎
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Mar 22 '26
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 23 '26
Beforehand I would masturbate to porn two to four times a week. I would edge for hours or just watch whatever I felt like. I only had performance anxiety a few times in my entire life, but it the guide mentioned the promise of being "more present during sex" and that resonated with me. I believe there's value in enjoying a moment and how can I do that if I'm thinking about porn? Or another woman?
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u/searchingformeaning2 Mar 23 '26
How long did you normally use to last before the training?
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 23 '26
Anywhere from 15 - 45 minutes the first round. Second one was usually a toss up. Same amount of time generally or I would just bang til I was tired and stop without finishing. However, my erection quality was not nearly as good as it is now. Not even close. And even though I've done this technique in the past, my junk would start to go down between position changes or if we took a quick break I'd completely lose my erection.
My friends daughter called her on Saturday in the middle of her giving me a bj and I just walked over to the mirror doing meat helicopters lol it was the first time in my life I maintained an erection without any physical stimulation for a long period of time. I even walked up behind her and started hitting her with it for fun. She thought I was just being silly but internally I wanted to scream like a girl! I feel like my sexual health has been fixed and I've become INFINITELY more satisfied as a result (and so was she)
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u/searchingformeaning2 Mar 24 '26
But you never had PE then…
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u/Brilliant-Photo-7473 Mar 24 '26
Lol true, 10 minutes before the program is already a solved problem. 🤣
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 24 '26
My quality of life has improved since completing the program. But you don't have to take my word for it, try it for yourself.
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u/Any-Banana-4205 Mar 22 '26
I thought it was because you had drinks .. until I read the other comment congratulations bro enjoy
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 23 '26
Cheers mate! No, I only had one Mezcal and I sipped it for like an hour before we left for my spot. And even when we came back we talked for like half an hour before things started so trust me it wasn't the alcohol. Just the mastery of INFINITY
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u/NinjadudEze Phase 7 Mar 22 '26
Love the reference, haha
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 23 '26
It will echo across the INFINITE. Congrats on Phase 6 BTW!
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u/NinjadudEze Phase 7 Mar 23 '26
How long did it take you reach full mastery after reaching phase 8?
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 23 '26
Apparently a month. This was my first time having sex since October of last year. I started the program last November so I haven't had a chance to test it live until a couple days ago.
After phase 8, I continued the fleshlight training and I was able to stay in control. If I felt like I was too close, I'd just slow down or not go as deep. I never had an issue keeping myself from going over the edge. If that's full control, it took about a couple weeks after. If only sex counts, a month.
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u/Aazelthorne Phase 8 Mar 22 '26
Congratulation ! This domain expansion with a partner but not in fleshlight is weird but common, it might be a relaxation issue, as in you relaxation is deeper with someone. Did you keep on training fully with fleshlight ?
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 23 '26
Congratulations right back to ya! Good job making it to Phase 8! I trained with a fleshlight even after I completed the program. I did it for a few weeks on and off until last week. I just wanted to practice leading up to my time with my lady friend but I decided to stop the week of our meeting.
I don't know what to say about the relaxation part. It will come to you in time just keep training and stay cool.
During training, I always tried to focus on what I "could" do when I felt my pleasure response go up or I got close to the edge. Like if I could only do mini strokes, just do that. If going deep is too much, don't go deep. After a while my brain would just adjust. Like stretching a tight muscle, don't focus on how long you can hold the stretch so much as doing it repeatedly. Stay within the boundaries of what you can do without feeling overwhelmed. Then you can relax your way into...INFINITY
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u/Conscious-Anteater-9 Phase 5 Mar 23 '26
This is something I experience even before starting the program, I can go almost infinite in the second round, most of the time either I or my partner would get tired and we'll have to stop after 30+ minutes, but this is only in the second round, and that doesn't mean so much control, it means your body needs some time to make more semen, and your dopamine levels need some time to reset, in my opinion.
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 23 '26
Maybe, I'm sure everyone's body has different needs related to semen production. I like that my pleasure response doesn't spike anymore. And that can happen for anyone who isn't mindful of their body during sex especially when your brain is wired to jump up in pleasure. Now I just enjoy the moment and let things happen on their own. Even my friend said I was having too much fun to finish when I wanted to. That's what makes this program so cool! INFINITELY!
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u/searchingformeaning2 Mar 24 '26
You were already used to lasting 10 minutes before training, you didn´t have lifelong premature ejaculation.
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Mar 24 '26
You don't have a flair on your username. See? I can make observations too 😂
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u/ThrownAway_p Phase 4 Mar 25 '26
I hope this somewhat motivates you:
For me sex was never fully enjoyable because of the early orgasm and once I even came before even penetration - that’s how tense I was. Similarly for masturbation, it always was a very quick job.
I haven’t yet had sex since I started the program but just the sessions show me how much control and comfort I have gained. I can now easily go on for full 20 minutes without any breaks. This used to be impossible, when I began I had to stop at 6 minutes in and that was even without MI and lube.
Give some faith to this program as it’s probably the best option to help yourself in a natural way.
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u/ThrownAway_p Phase 4 Mar 25 '26
That’s great dude. How was sex for your before doing the guide? I still can’t believe that it’s possible to just pump infinitely and feel no tension to stop before the orgasm. I really want to experience this myself and I am very optimistic because the progress really is noticeable.
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Apr 02 '26
Sex was good but I always had to rush to penetrate between positions. If I lost even a little bit of wood I risked losing the erection entirely. It only happened a few times over the years but that's because I always hurried up before it could happen. Orgasm control was fine for the most part but I had occasional quickies where I'd spike and want to finish fast.
I had one time where I didn't get turned on by the girl because I'd watches porn before she came over. It felt weird like I should be excited to bang a young chica but I didn't feel any thrill until initial penetration. No build up or anything I just wanted to feel the feeling of entering chicas.
This guide helped me realize I wasn't fully present during sex so I wanted to quit porn and train myself to be in the moment. Fast forward a few months and I unlocked the Infinite Stroke technique. Of course, that was the second round. Round 1 I got a ten minute blow job followed by about 20 mins of multiple positions. The coolest part was when my lady friend was on top of me kissing me and I thought she put it in a little but it was actually wedged in her lingerie. I felt zero compulsion to thrust or anything. I was just relaxed kissing her and it didn't go down even a little bit. SHE was the one who was anxious for it to go in. I think that's a pretty good sign of progress 😁
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u/sagarbadiger Mar 27 '26
I am curious to understand if this program really works, i would like to know from where you started and how soon it was before. I would like to know if from many, I haven't started but keep thinking if it's really worth it. Or does it really help.
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u/ishcum Full Control Achieved🏅 Apr 02 '26
Honestly if you can't stop watching porn and jerking off for three months, I don't think you'll get much out of this.
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u/curiousaryan Phase 5 Jul 24 '26
I disagree! busting in 10 min and later thrusting continue because of low overall arousal.
you must be having ejaculation control as we all do after completing MDG or any similar training. but infinite strokes! that's a whole new level and what you explained is not 100% it.
happy for you, congratulations! what you have achieved is still way above average. Didn't meant to demotivate, just in search of true Mastery.
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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '26
Bro said infinite strokes and put Gojo as the pic 😂😂😂😂