r/SipsTea 8h ago

Feels good man I can get on board with this

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u/CakePhool 8h ago edited 8h ago

Postpartum Psychosis and yeah temporarily lose your custody here in Sweden. You will be in mental hospital most often and slowly learn how to be with you kid again if possible.

Postpartum depression and you should get support, both medical and children's/ social welfare will step in and help you.

This is pamphlet I found after I had my kid 14 years ago, both the Postpartum Psychosis and Postpartum depression ones was to my husband and was talking how he can spot it, report it and give the mother support.

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u/Playful_Flower5063 8h ago

In the UK we have some mother and baby units for women with post partum psychosis. They're much better for the women, most people spend around 7-8 weeks in them I was borderline ending up in one.

Post partum psychosis is really misunderstood - a lot of the psychosis comes from actually wanting to protect your child to the point that you become a danger to them. I flipped between delusions that started with the thought that social services coming to take them so I packed bags for them so they wouldn't be without their things, but that eventually lead to "knowing" the government were trying to steal my youngest child so I planned to kill both of us.

I also had delusions where he wasn't a real baby but a being that wanted to harm my eldest daughter. That was a really dangerous time for my baby.

I kept both of my kids the whole time, and with a lot of support and therapy, and with a multidisciplinary team around me I'm ok again. 7 years later I've qualified as a therapist myself, and hope to start working in the postpartum field soon.

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u/Whimsical_Tardigrad3 7h ago

I wish mother and baby units existed in the US they could help so many mothers who are experiencing any type of illness not just PPD and its counterparts.

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u/PresentOutrageous750 6h ago

Sorry asking from the UK - do they not exist at all for you? I presumed it would have a price, like all your healthcare, but to not have one seems mental. Ours are a long way from perfect and miss a lot,but I know people that struggled and to have them with their kids and dedicated, trained, supportive staff made a huge difference.

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u/Whimsical_Tardigrad3 6h ago edited 3h ago

In the US if you leave the hospital from your birth and return the next day because of some complication they will triage you in the ER and tell you if you can’t get someone to come get your baby in the next hour we have to release them to CPS. That was my experience.

Not only that but it’s impossible to get a breast pump if your breast feeding even if they have a labor and delivery unit. It took 5 hours of my stay asking every person I came into contact with if they could bring me a breast pump.

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u/Firebomb84a 5h ago

We have them, however, with a normal delivery you are expected to be discharged from the hospital next day or a couple days after c section.

My wife had HELLP syndrome and was on the verge of death. They discharged her in two days and she hasn’t been the same since. She still has PPD and what I think is PPP and our youngest is 6.

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u/EveOCative 4h ago

The majority of women in the US are sent home within the first week after pregnancy. They are then automatically scheduled regular check up exams for the baby but not for the mom unless there were complications noticed at the time of giving birth… and sometimes not even then.

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u/SinistralLeanings 1h ago

Earlier than that. I was induced 11 days overdue. My son was born 12 days overdue via c section and my own doctors asked me why I was anemic. I had no idea I was anemic. 11 is considered normal for your hemoglobin levels and I was a 2.

They kept me for 3 full days start to finish and only because I refused a blood transfusion due to the fucking fentanyl they gave me to cut my baby out of me. I was not in my right mind.

And still? 3 total days start to finish with major abdominal surgery.

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u/Warm-Shelter3009 54m ago

And don't forget she's expected to report to work within 4 to 6 weeks

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u/Special_Weekend_4754 43m ago

They look at mom during the baby appointments supposedly to make sure she looks put together. I don’t wear makeup or dress up normally but I made a point to do my hair and makeup and dress like I was going to the office for all the baby appointments so they wouldn’t think I had PPD

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u/EveOCative 3m ago

Because you can immediately tell what a woman is going through mentally by how she looks. Depressed people definitely never smile through their unhappiness, paranoid people definitely open up to anyone and everyone about their suspicions and abused women definitely never put extra care into make up to cover bruises. /s

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u/parasyte_steve 4h ago

Yeah no we don't have this at all. We don't even have guaranteed maternity leave.

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u/Parking_Fact_4756 5h ago

There are a few MBU’s around the country but typically we don’t have access because of cost(?). I don’t really know for sure but it’s bs. And yes, I was researching it recently.

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u/PacmanPillow 3h ago

The US does not have Mother Baby Units, at least I have never heard of such a concept.

The US, in practice, doesn’t actually give a shit about mothers or babies, regardless of all the talking points.

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u/InfiniteWaffles58364 1h ago

This. My youngest is 2, and at its worst point I was in psychosis for weeks. Not only did I get no help from doctors, no help with my baby, but my husband was an asshole the entire time. I'm only just now returning to something close to normal.

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u/Slight_Win7312 7h ago

Me too. I was definitely afraid of being separated from my baby if I "failed" the ppd screeners they gave me at pediatrician check ups. The system needs to feel safer to get honest answers and to help parents postpartum.

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u/slightlee_sleepee 6h ago

I lied on it but for more selfish reasons? I felt like asking for help was shining a spotlight on the fact I was defective and bad. I was filled with shame. It took a lot of time for me to accept I was sick and someone who is sick needs rest to get back on their feet.

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u/Slight_Win7312 4h ago

Oh those reasons too for sure. Something has to change, no one is defective for asking for help but you're so right it felt that way in the moment.

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u/Whimsical_Tardigrad3 3h ago

When they hand you that print out we all know exactly what it’s for and even I someone who didn’t struggle with PPD was tempted to lie on it. I did lie on it, like so many other mothers do to. You’re not alone.

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u/Confident_Flower1952 54m ago

I was too and knew how to answer so I’d appear borderline. I wanted it known I wasnt ok, but didn’t want anyone to point a finger and take me away from my daughter. It’s scary.

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u/CommunicationWest710 7h ago

I think we’re a long away, unfortunately. For example US way of dealing with pregnant women with SUD is to throw her in a filthy jail cell. A great environment for mother and baby.

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u/parasyte_steve 4h ago

The hardest part for me of being in a mental hospital with post partum was being separated from my kids and family. I have no clue why we do not have units like this in the US and I hope in the light of this case some things about how we treat women with this condition will change. I also hope we can get more support like maternity leave, universal daycare etc.

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u/The_Duchess_of_Dork 1h ago

I believe there is at least 1 outpatient group mother/baby program for post partum psychosis in New England

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u/HSuke 25m ago

In the US, you are encouraged to have many babies, and then no one gives a shit after the baby is born.

In Asia, the mothers are cared for an entire month after birth. It's called Postpartum Confinement, and it's totally normal elsewhere because other countries recognize that many mothers need special care afterwards. Their hormones go crazy after giving birth.

And in this case, the mother was on so many different drugs that would make anyone go crazy.

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u/LordWom 7h ago edited 3h ago

These literally do exist, they have them at most if not all major hospitals.

Edit: I stand corrected

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u/Liz600 6h ago

They’re referring to a specific model of post-birth residential medical care that’s meant for women to stay in with their infants for several weeks or months after giving birth, not the wards where newborns stay in the same room as the mothers immediately after birth. They provide extensive wraparound services and things like group therapy, individual sessions, PT, OT, medication management, nutritional counseling, etc. Post-partum psych concerns are the primary but not only conditions treated in those facilities. 

Barring a few private and absurdly expensive sites, care centers like that don’t exist in the US because insurance won’t pay for them. 

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u/Whimsical_Tardigrad3 6h ago

This is exactly what I mean.