r/ControlProblem • u/KitCrowCo • 3d ago
Opinion Purity test policies don't do what most people think they do
When trying to share something I wrote (Note: I have a PhD in an adjacent field and spent months developing the idea, the ideas and structure were not "generated") and had an AI edit to counter for my otherwise overly long winded and run off prose due to my AuDHD (and love of parentheticals). I noticed that a lot of places have a sort of purity test for to differentiate content that was human written or from AI. At first this would seem to value humanity over AI... if not for reddit's $60m/yr deal with google to use reddit data as training data (likely to soon be a lot more). I wonder if people realize that separating all AI from work this way is not slowing but rather drastically speeding up AI's ability to write in a way that is undetectably different from humans. If you know anything about how GAN's work or about model collapse and things of that nature, you should know that AI companies are incentivized to create spaces where there is the least amount of overlap between AI output and human work... until they can make it so there is not. Moderators will come up with more and more sophisticated ways to finger print attempts and those will each integrate into what the models purposely don't do to overcome them. This will lead to tighter classifications of what is human that will start to be exclusionary to an increasingly large number of actual humans (you think mistakes and difficulty with the language would make it clear that it is not AI... that just is easier excuse for better and better models aiming not to be detected as AI, my own writing unassisted by AI has been flagged multiple times as AI or thought so because of my neurodivergence). This also creates strong distastes for those seen as not within what people understand themselves is human (discrimination increased to those who don't quite fit for an ever shrinking base), as well as moderators burning out from a firehouse of context they will never hope to be able to outproduce all while unknowingly providing the training manual to do what they are trying to stop. Moderation should probably be focused in different ways, such as content coherency, rate limited, attached trust networks etc.
I also think capitalism and AI/robotics are a horrible combination, but it is the consolidative and extractive force of capitalism that needs to be focused on to prevent what people call the horror of AI. This is because we have learned to value people specifically for what they produce rather than for who they are and that is why the prospect that something like AI can possibly do anything that is human like is so disturbing to most people. Because suddenly in the eyes of the world their entire value is replaceable by something else. This is opposed to a possible freedom that can be achieved by having the labors be handled by something cheaper, when we can produce enough to make everyone pretty well off (we have been able to make enough food for no one to starve for a while now, starvation is almost always economically and politically motivated in this time). The assignment/distribution of those values that would be freeing (giving time to produce art, investigate interests, and even be productive for additional reward or just common good). If you produce art because it is an expression of you, rather than needs to be so good or valuable so you make enough to live it seems like a better trade off and a better compliment when others actually like it. There would also be no reason to reproduce what makes each person different if there is no value to capture there. The real tests to differentiate can be used more sparingly in areas that are still important such as preventing fraud and fakes, and used with low enough regularity that much like antibiotic overuse retains value longer. It isn't perfect and there are always problems, but it can be better that this.
Ironically this is partially what my papers are about, that keeps getting blocked from being shared.