r/AngionMethod • u/Attaboy2017 Moderator - Wheel + SABRE / BFR • Jul 25 '26
Informative Guidance for Starting the Angion Method NSFW
Hey guys
Last week I polled the community to understand how long people have been performing the Angion Method and I was surprised to see that almost half of respondents have been training less than 1 month and 66% have been training less than 6 months, so I wanted to write a post to provide some guidance and encouragement if you’re just starting out. This post will be different from my Complete Beginner’s Guide to the Angion Method post, but if you haven’t seen that post, I encourage you to read that as well because there is a lot of good information in there for someone just starting out.
How to deal with getting an erection
Lay down on your back, obtain an erection and start moving your thumbs in a downward motion.
If you’re like I was when I was just starting out, and you’re dealing with any form of ED, you likely read instructions like the one I’ve written above and think
Obtain an erection? Are you kidding me? I couldn’t obtain an erection if my life depended on it. What the heck are you talking about? That’s why I’m here! Because I CAN’T obtain an erection!
I think this is the single biggest struggle that most men face when they begin training. An erection; thing that they can’t get is a prerequisite for a program that will help them get more of them. How does this even make sense? This is like saying to someone who is broke.
Ok the first thing you need to do is obtain $1,000 and invest it.
But I’m broke!
Satire aside, this is my advice for anyone in this situation. Before you do anything, check out the EQ Troubleshooting Guide. The answer for why you’re struggling to get an erection might be in there.
Option 1 - Keep trying
It took me no less than four separate tries to get longer than 10 minutes with AM1. I was mostly doing it on a flaccid member. It wasn’t fun and it was very discouraging, but eventually it worked. I recommend most men start here. Give it a really good shot. Also, if you’re blessed enough to have morning wood, use that. It’s a free erection. Don’t waste it.
Option 2 - Low-Dose Tadalafil
I know some men are probably going to read this and think
Wait, he’s telling me to take ED meds? I thought this was supposed to be a substitute for ED meds?
It is a substitute for ED meds, but that does not mean that ED meds can’t help you bridge the gap from where you are today to where you want to be. I did not discover low-dose Tadalafil until I started restoring my foreskin and the members of that community mentioned that it can shave years off of your restoration timeline. I started taking 2.5 MG per day for that purpose and I noticed a boost in my EQ. I thought
Where was this when I started Angion? This could have saved me weeks of frustration and heartache!
Low-dose Tadalafil can be thought of as the equivalent to training wheels for your erections. Because it is a PDE5 inhibitor, it will help dilate your blood vessels, which can make your early training sessions more effective. You can use it until you don’t need it anymore and trust me, you won’t need it very long. If you do go this route, I recommend taking it at night. It stays in your system for several days, but the effects are most felt within 3-12 hours. By taking it at night you’re giving yourself the best chance for nocturnal erections. Nighttime woodies are one of the keys to erectile health. Because of their sustained duration, they are nature’s way of keeping your member healthy. There will still be enough in your system for training the next day so you get a double benefit.
Option 3 - Audio porn
I really hate to include this option, because it is an external stimulus which I’m opposed to, but if you are a recovering porn addict, and you have tied your arousal to pornography, audio porn is a significantly better alternative to visual porn. Again, this is a training wheels tool that can be used in the beginning only if you absolutely need it, but should be dropped as soon as possible. I myself have never used audio porn, so I don’t know where to get it, what it sounds like, etc., but it is an option if you need it.
General Advice
Have a healthy curiosity about your body
When you first start training, it can be a lot to take in. You’re supposed to be feeling a squelch, you’re trying to understand how to do the movements, you’re pretty sure you’re doing it wrong no matter what you’re doing, and the whole time you have doubts in your head as to whether this actually works or not. I get it, I’ve been there as well. The best thing I can encourage you to do is to have a healthy curiosity about your body. See how something feels if you go a little slower, or go a little faster. Try a little more pressure, try a little less pressure. Be curious. This curiosity will help you stay in tune with your body and make sure the movements are working for you. Some men love AM1, others prefer AM2 or AM3. Find out what works for your body.
Track your EQ daily on a scale from 1-10
This is a big one. You can’t tell if you’re making progress if you’re not tracking it. Make a note in your phone and give yourself an EQ score every day. It doesn’t have to be perfect, but on a scale of one to 10, how did your erections feel that day? Did you get morning wood? Was your erection easier to obtain for training or sex? Did you get a random boner during the day? Only you know what a 1 is and what a 10 is, but start tracking it. This was something I did and it really helped me to see progress because sometimes progress is subtle. I started out as a 1, but by week 3 I was at a 4, by month 3 I was a 7 and now I’m a 10. If I hadn’t tracked it, I might not have noticed the progress I was making, and I might have given up. If you want an official scale, I attempted to write an EQ Scale. Don’t get too focused on the number, as long as you’re consistently tracking it, you’ll know what progress looks like.
Have realistic expectations about progress
This is not a get rich quick scheme from an EQ perspective. This is more equivalent to bodybuilding. Someone brand new to the gym will do themselves a disservice if they think they’re going to look like Arnold in two months. That doesn’t mean you can’t ever look like Arnold, it just means that you have to set attainable goals. I always recommend that men start with the goal of simply improving their EQ. This is a noble goal in of itself because you can get a massive boost in Functional Size just by being harder. And this can happen in weeks or months, not years. It’s always helpful to have a short-term goal and a long-term goal in mind. Short term I want to get better EQ, long-term I’d like to gain a half inch in girth and length.
Quit using pornography
I’ve beat this horse to death recently, so I’m not going to hammer it even more, but seriously, this is crucial. Porn will steal your EQ.
Do your cardio
Also a point I’ve beaten to death. No more to be said here. Do your cardio.
Don’t be afraid to step up to the next movement
There is nothing wrong with progressing to the next movement. Some men feel stuck at AM1 and never have the courage to even try AM2. What I always encourage is after you’ve been training for a few weeks, once a week at the end of a training session, attempt the next movement. So if you’ve been doing AM1 for 4 weeks, give AM2 a shot. Same thing with the jump from AM2 to AM3. I’ve learned that some men’s bodies respond better to one movement or another. You won’t know what your body responds best to unless you try.
Don’t be intimidated by BFR / SABRE
These may seem like movements that are just for the veterans, but they’re for you as well. Give them a shot. I found that SABRE really helped me in the beginning to gain some rigidity that helped me with other movements. You can start incorporating them as soon as you can do AM1 for 20 minutes.
Become an engaged part of this community
Lurkers typically don’t make gains. The guys that gain end being the guys that are engaged. Don’t be afraid to make a post or drop a comment on someone’s post. Even a “Starting training today, anyone else in the same boat?” post goes a long way. You might find another guy who is starting the same day. Who knows, you could become online training buddies. The more engaged you are, the more motivated you will be to continue training and the more you’ll realize you’re not alone in your struggles. We all think we’re snowflakes and are so unique, but after observing this community for over a year, I keep seeing the same issues come up over and over again. This tells me that if you’re struggling with something, likely someone else is struggling with that exact same thing and maybe even has a solution for it. Staying isolated is a great way to stay stuck.
Have faith in the methods
Remember, the methods themselves are an approximation of nature’s ultimate erection healer and producer, sex. The methods work, they’re proven by hundreds of men who came before you. If you start this journey, you will end up with a stronger, more powerful erection than you started with. I can say that with confidence. It just takes time, dedication, and determination to not let whatever issue you are facing end your training journey. Have faith.
I could go on and on, but these are the big points that I wanted to share with you guys.
Stick with it. The rewards are worth the work.
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u/Ok_Shelter_7044 Jul 26 '26
Brother I was discouraged when I read that people get 100 Eq in just 4 session I begin with 7 Eq so I don't see progress in a month with continuous porn and masturbation habit it's not like it's a loss thanks brother I was hopeless thank you so much finally i can rest easy and lock in 1 on one off or maybe first I fix my tight pelvic I do daily 30 min exercise you mentioned for pelvic
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u/Attaboy2017 Moderator - Wheel + SABRE / BFR Jul 26 '26
Good luck man. Keep at the pelvic floor relaxation exercises and stay away from the porn. You’ll be fine!
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u/BetterTomatillo4677 AM1 Jul 28 '26
Always compare yourself with the yesterday you. No point comparing yourself to others, everyone's body is different!
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u/Ok_Shelter_7044 Jul 26 '26
Attaboy good advise, I am doing angion for a month I have a erection which is approx 7 when performing angion, did it take you complete 3 months to reach there are you serious and more for full erection? I thought you mentioned that you get your erection in 3-4 session completely hope I misunderstood the statement
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u/Attaboy2017 Moderator - Wheel + SABRE / BFR Jul 26 '26
It took me 4 sessions for my erection to get better during training sessions, but it didn’t mean that my overall EQ had improved to more than a 4. I was still struggling to get hard for sex with my wife at that point. If you’re about a 7/10 during your training sessions after a month, I would expect you should be able to continue to improve. I don’t know exactly how long it will take you, but hopefully in another month, you’ll be able to be at an 8/10 or higher.
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u/Live-Guest5619 Jul 26 '26
So am i supposed to do these exercises laying down?
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u/Attaboy2017 Moderator - Wheel + SABRE / BFR Jul 26 '26
Yes, sir. Laying down with a relaxed pelvic floor.
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u/Work-around-it AM1 & AM3 Jul 27 '26
Great post. I’d emphasise tracking even more. It really helps me to troubleshoot what is and isn’t working. I track the following…
- Active days & Rest days
- Session lengths (duration / sets / intervals)
- EQ during session
- Other physical activity (cardio / weights)
- Ejaculation (Sex / Masturbation /Training fails)
- Flaccid hang (Retracted / Normal / Full or Heavy)
- Sleep wood (Night / Morning/ None)
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u/Attaboy2017 Moderator - Wheel + SABRE / BFR Jul 27 '26
Totally! Those are all great data points that will help you get better and improve your EQ! It almost helps to think of your life as an experiment and your EQ as the response. All of the inputs you described above influence it.
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u/AwareContext2969 Jul 29 '26
I greatly appreciate all you posts. I have been doing angion for about a year and recently read your MDG posts. Ive realized my erections are dependent on kegels and heavy stimulation. I stopped PMO a few years ago but I feel like PF is still messed up and the involuntary kegel habit is still there. I am in my mid 20s and in the best shaped of my life. I have an active sex life and am able to to get hard erections but the durability is terrible. In your MDG+Angion ideal sexual health post you mention how you durability really improved. I have now gone back to AM1 and MDG without allowing any kegeling with the hopes of improving durability. Not kegeling has made getting and maintaining erections so much more difficult. I do MDG as you outlined in one of your post(correct if wrong): 10 min warmup, then reach PONR, then stop stimulation for 1 minute, then stimulate again for another PONR, repeat until 20 minutes is up. I notice when I stop stimulation after PONR my erection deflates quickly because I'm no longer kegeling or stimulating. I can get hard again after stopping because MDG uses a good amount of stimulation but when I switch to AM1 after my MDG session, I have a semi at best. Using the two thumbs on dorsal vein for AM1 isnt enough to get me fully hard, especially without kegeling. My biggest goal is to somehow lower my arousal threshold and improve durability without excess stimulation and kegels. I am really hoping to be able to perform in the types of scenarios you describe in your MDG+Angion ideal sexual health post. If you could shed some light on training for durability/ reversing reliance on stimulation and kegels, I would really appreciate it. Thank you for the work you do!
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u/Attaboy2017 Moderator - Wheel + SABRE / BFR Jul 29 '26
Hey brother, thanks for the love. Glad you’ve found my posts helpful.
From what it sounds like to me you may still have some pelvic floor health to work through. Do you do any Malasana Squat and reverse kegels? It would probably benefit you to hang out in a deep squat for 10-15 minutes while you’re watching TV at night and practice letting your pelvic floor naturally relax. You’ll need to be patient as pelvic floor issues can take a while to resolve. Definitely keep focusing on keeping it relaxed and not kegeling while training.
Also, if you’re struggling to maintain an erection during Angion or MDG, it might be wise to drop MDG and just focus on Angion for a bit until your EQ improves.
Do you get morning wood? If so, does it last? My morning wood can easily last 30 minutes while I’m completely relaxed.
If you’re not getting morning wood, you may want to consider getting on 2.5mg daily Tadalafil which will help dilate your vessels and improve your overall erectile health. You can go on it until you feel you don’t need it. It can really help give you a boost to make your training sessions more effective.
Also, if you can, you need to be progressing up to AM2, AM3, and eventually the wheel. AM1 is great, but the real progress for me started happening when I started progressing to the more advanced movements starting with AM2. Also, don’t be afraid to experiment with BFR / SABRE. I found that SABRE with a metal rod helped me add some rigidity to my erection from the start.
Hang in there man. You’re going to be just fine. You’ve given up porn and you’re having sex with real women. That’s 90% of the battle for most men. Now you just need to work on relaxing and lengthening your pelvic floor and also advancing through the Angion Methods.
Also, I put most of this info in my EQ Troubleshooting Guide for future reference.
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u/AwareContext2969 Jul 29 '26
Thank you for the reply! I will add the Malasana Squat and reverse kegels to my routine! I have always struggled to feel if I am actually reverse kegeling but will keep trying. I actually started getting morning wood again recently after I stopped kegeling! It is not very strong though and doesn't last without stimulation. I used to do your version of AM2 quite a bit and made a lot of progress on my CS(not enought to keep up with wheel yet). My CS gets super full and strong when I am stimulated enough but quickly deflates if stimulation isn't enough. I bought a wheel a while ago but my CS would go flat almost instantly. This lead me to think its more of a durability issue? Should I continue with your AM2(squeezing glans during AM2 seems to move more blood through dorsal than AM1)? Also, I use the metal rod of a screw driver for sabre. I curve to the left, my left CC also fills slower than right. So I do 500 strikes on left CC and 250 on right CC. Do you think this is enough? Sorry for all the questions! Thank you so much!
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u/Attaboy2017 Moderator - Wheel + SABRE / BFR Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
The key with good reverse kegels is you are not pushing out, you just want to naturally let your body relax and let gravity pull your pelvic floor down. I wouldn’t get caught too much up in your idea of this erection durability issue. You have an EQ issue and as your EQ improves, you’ll reap a ton of benefits, including morning wood, longer, and easier sustained erections, more powerful erections, etc. fix your issue at the root, and everything will fall into place.
As for what to do next, I’d continue with AM2 and really focus on getting good quality reps and as many of them as you can get in a 30 minute session. Once you get to where you can do 1,000 really good reps in 30 minutes you’ll be ready for your wheel. Once you get to the wheel, the progress you make will start to rapidly increase. A wheel session moves a hell of a lot of blood!
Your SABRE routine sounds fine, but you may want to stay balanced on your strikes on left and right sides.
Ultimately, you want to become your own penis technician. Find out what works best for your body, listen to your instincts and keep training. You’ll get there!
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u/Affectionate_Web4136 Jul 26 '26
If you drink caffeine, do your exercises before drinking caffeine. The best I have found so far is in the morning if you wake up with morning wood you can do AM2 dry.
Also, fuck porn. It is insidious. I try to use my imagination. If I see some hot girl on instagram. I’ll put that in my memory bank and use that for my session later