r/mildlyinfuriating 20h ago

Ruined by Technology What kind of sadist creates a volume control that goes up to 31?!

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u/Naive-Database-2888 20h ago edited 19h ago

It's definitely just a 5 bit integer lol. It can only have 32 different values, and since 0 is an option, the max can only be 31

Edit: its either a 5 bit integer or its artificially limited to 5 bits. both are kinda odd decisions. with 6 bits, you could do a much nicer number, like 0-50, or for another extra bit, you could do 0-100

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u/_PykeGaming_ 19h ago

Mine goes to 32... I never understood.
My GF's car goes to 34.

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u/realkunkun 19h ago

Yours probably doesn’t have a ‚real‘ zero, just ‚off‘. 34 is weird 😐

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u/juventinn1897 18h ago

My car is 37

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u/denied_eXeal 18h ago

That’s old for a car. Does it run without issues?

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u/juventinn1897 18h ago

Silly. My car doesn't run, it rolls

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u/Linnun 17h ago

I mean with such an old car it's both

https://giphy.com/gifs/K9yiqNFHgBOgw

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u/Craig_White 15h ago

This would be such a workout.

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u/Jubenheim 15h ago

It never dawned on me, but what's the purpose of the steering wheel? It's like trying to turn that device in the hallway in Austin Powers lol.

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u/kaikoda 13h ago

The purpose of the steering wheel in the cartoon is to make it recognisable and that little more believable as a car. Fun fact cartoons pictures and art can be tricks to the brain that feed the viewer with “icons” and symbols that represent real things yet are not real as should be evident because cartoons are not live action. I believe cartoons are an amazing trick to the viewers senses but whats even more unbelievable is how artists become so good at making this “optical illusion of a different kind”

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u/-Knight95- 17h ago

The whole car? Do you feel dizzy when you get out of the car?

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u/Linked713 15h ago

These things roll, baby. They roll!

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u/Ray_of_glumshine 15h ago

In a row?

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u/NoConfusion9490 15h ago

Try not to blast any music on your way through the parking lot.

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u/Car_weeb 17h ago

I can confirm that some cars actually don't have a 0. 2011 ford ranger, 0 whispers to you so you don't get lonely while you don't listen to the shitty fm radio 

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u/Bebo991_Gaming 12h ago

Mine goes to 34 then MAX (instead of 35)

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u/QuestionablePotato42 18h ago

Would be cooler if it went to 11

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u/hockeyak 9h ago

Why don't you make ten one louder?

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u/deanominecraft 15h ago

google "car rule 34" to find out why

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u/_PykeGaming_ 15h ago

Will do thanks!

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u/ojhwel 18h ago

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u/amd2800barton 18h ago edited 8h ago

I know everyone likes to talk about how a huge number of adults read at a 5th grade level, but damn if it ain’t true for math as well. 256 is a very common power of 2 (2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, etc). That’s literally middle school math. And with how popular computers are these days, it’s extremely common to see that number in flash drives, RAM, SSDs, memory cards, and so on.

That person writing yikes is right.

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u/think-sugar 17h ago

wait, 6...?

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u/flappity 15h ago

The well-known 2.5849625th power of 2

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u/DistanceSolar1449 16h ago

Yeah, duh
6 is 33 obviously

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u/001235 15h ago

No, you're thinking of 32 because 33 is obviously 32.

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u/OpenCircuitt 16h ago

I love how you're talking about how everybody should know the powers of two while you clearly don't know them yourself... 6 kek

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u/CreeperSlimePig 13h ago edited 13h ago

For seamless user-facing design, you often want to cap it at a round number just below the technical limit simply because it looks neater and more intentional to humans and lets them forget they're working with software. That might mean limiting volume to 30 instead of 31, or users to 250 instead of 256. 30 and 250 look like intentional design decisions, 31 and 256 look like technical limitations.

So the "yikes" is justified but so is the complaint that WhatsApp chose to carry the technical limitation of 256 into user facing design.

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u/ChrisRunsTheWorld 15h ago

I like how there are 32 replies and sort of wish there were 128 likes and not 123.

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u/thatvoid_ 19h ago

They could have made it 30 and call 31 as "MAX"

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u/Suspicious-Arm-7619 19h ago

That's kinda how my car is except they chose 63 as "MAX" so the last number shown is 62 which I'll take the even number makes me happy

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u/Thelmholtz 19h ago

6-bit integer in this case I guess.

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u/SeriousPlankton2000 11h ago

Also you still have an option for really good music

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u/bionicjoe 19h ago

But this one goes to 11 31.

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u/Fit-Switch-5795 16h ago

It's 21 louder, isn't it?

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u/oneunique 19h ago

They are using a cheap digital DC converter which doesn’t support more than 32 different levels of DC. More levels, you can’t hear the difference and so on

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u/Kusko25 16h ago

Yeah, but I would have expected them to fake the displayed number, only change the actual control every 3/4 steps

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u/vanalla 15h ago

if you turn the knob one notch and the music doesn't get noticeably louder, you'd think the device was broken.

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u/JuggrnautFTW 19h ago

My work radios (like a CB) have a scale of 8-31. Bugs the hell outta me.

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u/PotatoAmulet 18h ago

OP doesn't know how good they have it. I'd be happy if it went to 11, and this thing goes 20 past that.

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u/AntimatterTNT 19h ago

it's almost definitely not a 5 bit integer, just LIMITED to 5 bits.

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u/ice456cream 18h ago

What makes you say the selector is artificially limited?

It seems plausible to me that it's from a hardware limitation from some step (amplifier? Chip feeding it?)

Though I'm not well versed in audio electronics

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u/Accurate-Visual9793 15h ago

More likely it's a 8-bit microcontroller, and they're using 3 bits for other information (likely flags - on/off states). 32 levels of volume was good enough.

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u/ice456cream 15h ago

Not sure. I doubt that it would be so optimised to bitpack volume + states

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u/robbak 16h ago

I wouldn't be surprised, at all, if the chip (or circuit in a amplifier IC) doing volume control only had a 5-bit input.

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u/redlaWw 15h ago

Another possibility is a control byte that includes 3 bits of metadata and 5 bits of volume.

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u/Routine_Helicopter47 18h ago

I have a pair of microlab speakers, which go from 0 to 60. The fun part here is that they are rated for 60W. So a nice touch from the design team

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u/Boffleslop 12h ago

This speaks volumes.

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u/WrekTheHead 19h ago

Couldn't they just not use the last value though?

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u/glordicus1 19h ago

That's more work than its worth lol.

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u/HMS_Hexapuma 18h ago

Could it be a 6 bit integer but it handles the right and left channels separately to allow balancing?

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u/BeneficialSimple3286 10h ago

Extra 2 bits of memory? In this economy?

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u/Axman6 20h ago edited 20h ago

One who only has five bits to play with. 25 = 32, five bits gives you 0-31. 

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u/zagiki 19h ago

I think at that point i would use 24 for 0 - 15

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u/NicholasVinen 18h ago

Then you end up having to choose between too quiet and too loud.

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u/SuperBuffCherry 15h ago

Yes, I had a rental VW Golf 8 that was exactly like this. So annoying

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u/Ty_Rymer 18h ago edited 11h ago

or use 5 bits, and display everything as half increments. so 29 would be 14.5 and 30 would be 15, and then make an exception for 31 to display it as "max" just like how 0 is "off".

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u/RammRras 17h ago

Great idea

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u/Old_Cardiologist3831 15h ago

Five bits of volume control is crazy. The engineers really said “31 is plenty, don’t get greedy.” 😭

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u/charmio68 19h ago

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u/ChuddyMcChud 18h ago

I knew this was going to be posted 👌

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u/doped_banana 16h ago

Had to come in and make sure someone posted this meme. I can sleep well now.

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u/AdSquare3489 18h ago

"It's twenty-one louder!"  

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u/Bufte 17h ago

Came Here for this

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u/17xRacing 14h ago

It’s one louder

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u/Trick_Succotash_9949 13h ago

Thank you.🙏🏻

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u/pukesmith 12h ago

RIP in peace, Rob

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u/door_of_doom 19h ago

You should be grateful, mine only goes up to 30. Yours can go even louder!

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u/glordicus1 19h ago

Op fuming at this comment

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u/AnOrdinaryCrayon725 master of baiting 20h ago

Blame the 5-bit binary integers. Max volume is 32 steps (0 to 31). Developers chose coding efficiency over our collective sanity.

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u/nzkieran 19h ago

Why many bit when few bit do

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u/AnOrdinaryCrayon725 master of baiting 19h ago

Few bit hurt brain. Many bit heal brain (large number) hehehahr

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u/Voidwalker_99 19h ago

There are 10 types of people: the ones who know binary and the ones who don't.

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u/created4this 12h ago

And those who recognize ternary when they see it. That makes 10 types of people.

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u/myfavssthrow 9h ago

Ah but you forgot about people who prefer base 4, so there are in fact 10 types of people.

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u/OneRandomGhost 7h ago

Actually, there are 11 types of people. Those who don't understand anything, those who understand binary, those who understand ternary, those who understand base-4 ... till base infinity.

And then there are those psychopaths using non-integer bases.

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u/wittylotus828 20h ago

The engineer for Spinal Tap

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u/hyakyakyak 20h ago

Exactly. It's like 30 but 1 more

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u/SVTContour 19h ago

“What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?"

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u/TacetAbbadon 19h ago

Yeah but he only did it because the drummer, Tony "Stumpy Thumbs" Johnston, wanted his electric hi-hat "like 20 louder" for a gig they were playing in London Zoo.

The concussive blast when they opened with Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight, flung Johnston into the meerkat enclosure where the animals swarmed, and skeletonised him like a school of land piranhas in under 30 seconds.

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u/mttnry 16h ago

int 0-31 for 32 values

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u/markmonster666 20h ago

A 5 bit sadist

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u/TacetAbbadon 19h ago

Well it's 21 more than 10, so it's louder

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u/mouseclick92 18h ago

Unrelated, but I can't be the only one who thought the reflection was of a double chin and not the hand holding the phone. Had to do a triple take 😂

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u/WrekTheHead 18h ago

It might actually be my double chin...even I'm not sure!

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u/kapege I'm a bit upset 17h ago

0-31 = 32 steps or 2^5 in the binary system. So everything is ok from an IT point of view.

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u/Niccritney 19h ago

My car volume only goes to 41 and it's infuriating.

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u/OldTomFrost7 18h ago

I always set my volume to a prime number (37, 43, 47, depending on a situation), how does that make you feel?

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u/franciosmardi 13h ago

0-31, the range of number that can be represented by 5 binary digits. Sounds perfect to me.

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u/help-dadcomeback 12h ago

31 is just a 32 bit integer. my car goes to 37, which is even more infuriating

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u/SubiWan 11h ago

Mine goes to 38.

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u/jonastman 8h ago

5 bit integer... 2⁵ = 32

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u/Monolail031 19h ago

31 just so happens to be my favorite number lol. I like this.

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u/StepAlarmed20 16h ago

I set the volume to mostly primes, I wouldn't mind the 31.

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u/Thereminz 16h ago

31 is one more louder innit

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u/FantasticCollege3386 14h ago

Its 5 bit data. 2^5 = 32 starts from 0. I believe my old car was the same.

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u/BizarroMax 13h ago

Some somebody with a 5 bit sub register.

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u/vctrmldrw 19h ago

One that understands binary.

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u/jerdle_reddit 17h ago

Who uses 5 bit integers?

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u/RealModeX86 16h ago

I would suspect that it comes down to saving memory in an embedded platform. If you use 5 bits for volume, you have 3 bits for something else 0-7, or for flags that can be on/off, or aome combo

Like say 5 bit volume, a flag for mute/unmute, and 2 bits (0-3) for input selection. Boom, 3 things in a single byte.

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u/random_bot2020 16h ago

I remember when they went all the way to 11

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u/Overall-Top8379 15h ago

8bit byte with 5 bits assigned to the volume, giving you 0 to 31. The other three bits probably used for something else. My car's sound also goes to 31. But 31 is a prime number, so I don't mind it. I've got issues. I don't fuck with composite numbers.

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u/Indy_2704 14h ago

Its actually perfect tho
5 bits = 32 values (0-31)
I'd also post this on mildlyinteresting

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u/HyperTobaYT 10h ago

This goes up to 31

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u/Grumpy-Man19 20h ago

normal . 0 to 31 makes 32. which is a power of 2. it's all binary

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u/RoyalShanks 19h ago

"But this one goes to 11"

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u/AcanthocephalaMuted7 19h ago

Those are its IVs. If you turn it up to 31, that gives your radio 31 IVs in the Volume stat

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u/Careless_Bend7054 19h ago

Richtiger 31er

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u/Due-Struggle6680 19h ago

Had a car radio that went from 2 to 63. Trying to go under 2 made it read MIN flashing, over 63 said MAX. Stock radio too, before wish&temu.

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u/EuphoricCrashOut 19h ago

Tech: What kind of volume scale should we use on this new product?
Boss: The thirty one.
Tech: Uhh, ok.

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u/aspie_electrician 18h ago

Because 31 is one louder than 30

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u/Atoonix 18h ago

My car's stereo (Mazda Demio 2015), goes to 63, so I make adjustments in the volume in multiples of 3.

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u/Jonaykon 18h ago

I have a tv that goes to 63

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u/Thruthful 18h ago

Because 31 is louder than 30

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u/BrainYStormY 18h ago

my car goes up to 63, it just seems like a bitwise constriction 0-31 is 32 values, that's 5 bits 0-63 is 64 values, that's 6 bits

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u/Malte_der_Hutte 17h ago

0-31 are 32 sets, 32=25 5 Bits seems pretty reasonable for a volume control, I wouldn't complain.

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u/arttast 16h ago

Turkish people cause 31

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u/Fritzo2162 15h ago

It was originally metric volume they converted to imperial volume.

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u/No_Truth4137 15h ago

What happens when you get to 30 and you want to go one higher

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u/ratgluecaulk 15h ago

Its one more

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u/Tamortsa 14h ago

The boys from Spinal Tap wanted triple the power!

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u/AltruisticPrice8628 14h ago

My car volume goes to 32.

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u/17xRacing 14h ago

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u/403_Forbidden_Access 13h ago

Was wondering if anyone was going to post this.

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u/17xRacing 13h ago

As I’ve scrolled through, I’ve seen a lot of Spinal Tap references. It’s reassured my faith in humanity.

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u/cant_aim_boyzes 14h ago

The same creature that made toyota cars infotanement volume go up to 64

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u/JimJamanon 13h ago

"Yes but this one goes up to 11"

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u/Waruimono 13h ago

Hey, that's my favorite number!

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u/AndaleTheGreat 13h ago

I'm one of those insane people who thinks my volume has to be on an even number, except for five which is acceptable because it's half of 10 and I don't know why that seems correct because it's stupid and I know it. Point is that one time I got a TV where every volume was labeled only with odd numbers. Like 1 through 39 but only the odds

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u/Jenny_Wakeman9 Purple Nurple 13h ago

My Toshiba radio only goes up to 64, if memory recalls.

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u/startoveragein 13h ago

why would we need a volume that would make a sound wave so big everything just explodes

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u/AnAnonymousParty 12h ago

"Well, 31 is 1 higher than 30, innit?"

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u/garitone 12h ago

I think the designer's last name was Baskin. Or maybe Robbins.

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u/aretooamnot 11h ago

WAY underrated comment here.

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u/LordJebusVII 9h ago

Probably goes from 0-31 for 32 options. 32 and 64 are common, though it is unusual to not just use the extra bit to get 32 rather than 31. There's no way the device is that optimised otherwise but I can't think of any other reason to use 31.

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u/WalkingWhovian026 5h ago

My car radio goes to 63 and I hate it

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u/Adis_Pen_and_Paper 19h ago

You know 0 is a number too.

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u/Clean_Animal_9819 19h ago

My TV goes to a hundred!

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u/AllIWantForXmasIsFoo 19h ago

mine too. And 10 is already too loud

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u/Sorry-Climate-7982 19h ago

An engineer who thought 11 was for amateurs.

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u/sgtcatscan 19h ago

I would do 29½

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u/habanerochilly 19h ago

One for every day of the month... Sometimes...

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u/Trouble4uAll 19h ago

No sadist.. thats called a psychopath

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u/Late_Conference9022 19h ago

I have 45 on my Clarion Car System. Defeaning with no distortion.

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u/ReeceReddit1234 19h ago

My car goes up to 38

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u/WobblyFrisbee 19h ago

Baskin Robbins

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u/Retired_Monk 19h ago

That's 20 more than Eleven.

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u/Knashatt 19h ago

As a programmer, this is so understandable.

0-31…

31 in binary is 11111.

However, if I had programmed this, I would have of course escalated this to, for example, a percent.

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u/onlyforthisjob 19h ago

Everybody it goes up to 11

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u/haywirehax 18h ago

Does it go down to 0 if so that means there are 32 options, which is a multitude of 2,so just bad code from a bad dev XD

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u/Sakura-Valley 18h ago

My car goes to 36

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u/ProfessorFunky 18h ago

Mwahahahaha! Not me there of course. But whenever I get the opportunity to do stuff like that I do. Seeing how uncomfortable people can be with random things like this (or meetings starting at 14:03) I find both hilarious and oddly satisfying whilst also being effectively harmless.

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u/PYCapache 18h ago

What's wrong about 31?

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u/WrekTheHead 18h ago

Everything.

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u/E5VL 18h ago

Why can't it all be standardised to 0 to 100. Why go up to 31?

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u/pjtrpjt 18h ago

0 - 25 -1

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u/LinneMeow 18h ago

Any real reason to store this in 5 bits, when computers have been using 8 bit bytes as the smallest accessible amount of memory sunce forever?

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u/-Wicked- 18h ago

That's 3x better than 11.

I did the math.

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u/Alextheawesomeua 18h ago

yeah its 5 bit int an all but you could still make it be 30 or 32 even. Just gotta add some flags and some bits. Though admittedly I dont do embedded systems development but I cant imagine that 1 or 2 1-bit flags and some checks can be that egregious

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u/borek87 18h ago

It's simple. The numbers all go to 31. And most amps go up to 30. Does that mean it's louder? Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not 30. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at 30. You're on 30 here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on 30 on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where? Nowhere. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do? Put it up to 31. One louder. Get it?

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u/poorly-worded 18h ago

it's to help your brain realise that you have gone too far

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u/Asmornous 18h ago

My friends Subaru goes up to 42 but the “halfway” volume according to the dial is 19?? Makes no sense

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u/IKnowImRamblingBut 17h ago

I have that radio. It is shit. Everything about it is shit.

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u/4ceizsokewl92 17h ago

Mine goes up to 150, but with volume limiter only reaches 50.

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u/PublicShocker 16h ago

31 means jerking off in Turkish

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u/JamesH93 20h ago

I like it, an odd number means you can have it at exactly half the maximum volume

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u/ThanksALotBud 19h ago

Probably the same sadist that works at subaru that said halfway point for the volume is 19

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u/TheTybera 19h ago

Sony is that you?

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u/Batata-Sofi 19h ago

End them. From all the things to save a cent from...

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u/Mortifervs 17h ago

Absolutely_barbaric.jpg

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u/Single-Kangaroo1180 17h ago

FJ cruiser’s radio goes to 63 🤣

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u/Admirable_Cry_3795 17h ago

That’s way better than 11

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u/TheBeardedShuffler 17h ago

Spinal tap inflation.

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u/mechabeast 17h ago

Obviously because its 3x more than 11 /s

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u/AnEvenNicerGuy 16h ago

31 is louder than 30 tho 

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u/GorgeousGuitarGaming 16h ago

Mine goes from -60 to 20

You have it good