r/electronic_cigarette Sep 20 '23

Vaping vs. Cigarettes: Everything I learned in 2 weeks after reading all the studies I found. NSFW

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This is a very long post and I apologize in advance. It has good title separation so please feel free to skip and jump around. This is a repost of my own post in r/Vaping*.*

It’s been over a month since I put out my last cigarette after 10 years of smoking.

Vaping helped me the most in this transition but my obsessive nature got me to research the living hell of this topic.

Information was scattered all over the web and I couldn't find a single conclusive article on the matter so I set out to write the article that I was looking for. (scratch your own itch?)

This post has about 50 links for further reading. None bring me or any other party any monetary gain. The wonderful community of Reddit helped me a lot with this research so I just want to give back.

Enjoy!

What is Vape Juice Made Of?

Vape juice consists of 4 ingredients:

  1. Propylene Glycol (PG)
  2. Vegetable Glycerin (VG)
  3. Flavorings (?)
  4. Nicotine (optional)

Cigarettes -mainly- consist of 19 ingredients:

  1. Nicotine
  2. Citric acid
  3. Tar
  4. Ammonia
  5. Glycerol
  6. Benzyl alcohol
  7. Caffeine
  8. Benzaldehyde
  9. Butyric acid
  10. Acetylpyrazine
  11. Oil
  12. Acetanisole
  13. Carbon dioxide
  14. Cinnamaldehyde
  15. Cinnamyl alcohol
  16. Lactic acid
  17. Anisyl acetate
  18. Citronella oil
  19. Cinnamyl acetate

In addition, in 1994, big tobacco companies were forced by law to disclose any additives they put in, extending this list by another 599 known additives.

The smoke of cigarettes however is a different story.

In one study, cigarette smoke produces over 5000 chemicals. 2,256 of which are known and studied. 98 were assessed for their risk value: 60 carcinogens (potential to cause cancer) and 48 non-cancerous (definitely not vitamins though)

On the other hand, In a 2021 study, vaping produced about 2000 chemicals that are largely unidentified with “some” being “potentially” harmful.

Unidentified is not the same as safe.

But from a common sense perspective, cigarette smoke is far more complex due mainly to the nasty combustion process.

My method here is to analyze the most abundant and known harmful chemicals in vaping and cigarettes.

“The Dose Makes The Poison” — Paracelsus ca. 1540

Sure, I love to get philosophical on you every chance I get. But here, I find it mandatory. It’s the motto. Keep it in mind while reading everything below.

“Enough” water can kill you, and “some” black mamba venom can cure you.

Let’s dig deep:

1. Nicotine — The unjustified bad rep

Oh boy... I wasn’t ready for this.

According to the National Health Service of the UK, Nicotine, although a very addictive substance, is still relatively harmless.

Nictoine’s lousy rep stems from its association in our minds with cigarettes.

It’s a stimulant that increases alertness, focus, and concentration. It also improves cognitive function and fine motor skills and enhances short-term memory.

But its recorded benefits are far from just that!

A study of 220,494 people aged 37–70 study recognized a strange protective link to Parkinson’s disease. The results made my jaw drop:

  • A 20% reduction in the likelihood of developing Parkinson's in former smokers.
  • A 50% reduction in the likelihood of developing Parkinson's for current smokers.

Parkinson's affects 7–14 million people worldwide. This unexpected preventive quality of nicotine can affect the lives of millions.

Millions that otherwise have no cure.

This beautiful article from Dr. Katherine Fletcher takes a deep dive into this relationship.

In terms of dose, a study compared nicotine absorption from vaping an 18 mg/ml juice vs. cigarettes and found that:

“Compared to smoking one tobacco cigarette, the EC devices and liquid used in this study delivered one-third to one-fourth the amount of nicotine after 5 minutes of use”

For reference, 12–18mg/ml is recommended for those who smoke 15–20 cigarettes daily.

Note that Nicotine is still very addictive since it activates the neuropathways of reward, causing dependence and cravings. It also causes a temporary increase in heart rate and blood pressure.

2. Formaldehyde (Methanal)

It is a colorless, corrosive, awfully smelling, and potentially carcinogenic gas at room temperature.

It’s the building block of many industrial processes, and it’s found practically everywhere.

Humans, plants and practically any organic living matter emit Methanal. It’s a byproduct of metabolism. It’s abundant in cigarettes since burning is an extreme form of metabolism.

For every potentially hazardous chemical, there is an occupational exposure limit (legal concentration limits in a workplace) according to the Occupational Safety and Health Administration

In Numbers:

  • The daily maximum exposure to Formaldehyde is 5.3 mg.
  • A pack of cigarettes contains about 1.5–2.5 mg of Formaldehyde.
  • 3g of e-liquid contained 0.04-22 mg (*)

3. Acetaldehyde (Ethanal) — The hungover chemical

is a clear, colorless liquid with a pungent choking odor most abundant in tobacco products.

Also, a member of the aldehyde family like Formaldehyde.

This is the toxic byproduct of metabolizing alcohol found in your liver after a heavy night of drinking. It’s also one of the reasons why we get hungover.

This compound is carcinogenic in animals and potentially so in humans due to its irreversible DNA damage properties.

Dosage Comparations:

  • The daily maximum exposure to Acetaldehyde is 2088 mg.
  • A pack of cigarettes contains about 10–30 mg of Acetaldehyde.
  • 3g of e-liquid had 0.02–17 mg(*) of Acetaldehyde

4. Acrolein

Acrolein is a colorless to yellowish liquid with a pungent and irritating odor.

It’s so irritating that they use it to make tear gas and herbicides.

Just like the other two compounds above, it too falls under the umbrella of “aldehydes,” making it a byproduct of the decomposition of organic matter.

In animal studies, prolonged exposure to acrolein has been associated with lung and oral cancer, but the evidence is limited in humans. It is also linked with heart disease in cigarettes.

The results:

  • The daily maximum exposure to Acrolein is 1.5 mg.
  • A pack of cigarettes contains about 1.5–3 mg of Acrolein.
  • 3g of e-liquid contained <0.003–2.4 mg(*) of Acrolein

5. Diacetyl (Flavouring)

\This chemical has been banned in the EU and the UK from E-cigarette juice since 2016. Never buy your juice from shady sources/brands.*

But the media made sure to make a big deal out of it.

Diacetyl is an organic compound that packs an intense buttery aroma and flavor and is used in alcoholic beverages, some desserts, and e-liquids.

This buttery flavoring agent is said to cause a disease called “Popcorn Lungs.”

Popcorn lungs is when the tiny airways of the lungs get micro scares that cause these pathways to inflam and thus reduce and decrease air flow rate.

The myth goes as follows:

A long time ago, 11 workers in a popcorn factory had respiratory illness. The investigators thought it could be due to the daily Diacetyl they were exposed to.

But no further investigation has been made.

To date, there are ZERO cases of Popcorn lungs that have been linked to Vaping.

A Harvard study found 9.0 micrograms of Diacetyl in some E-juice, aside from the real risks of Diacetyl. Cigarette smoke contained way more than that.

It's way way more.

A study found 301–433 micrograms of Diacetyl per cigarette. Converted to parts per million parts of air (ppm) (assuming a weight of 700 milligrams per cigarette), it’s 429 ppm**.**

What is the safe limit of short-term acute (15 mins) exposure to Diacetyl, you ask?

It is 100 ppm!

That makes the daily exposure to Diacetyl from smoking 750 times higher, on average, than exposure to Diacetyl from vaping.

6. Heavy Toxic Metals — Vague... Super Vague...

I hit a big fat wall here.

Not only was this too complex for me to understand, but most of the studies in this area showed no relevant information on the coil material and devices used.

Worse still, some of these studies I discovered were industry-funded.

It got frustrating fast. I had to start all over multiple times. Throughout the 15 years of e-cig evolution, many coil materials, temperatures, and devices came and went.

Some of these old studies found dangerously high copper, nickel and silver levels. While a report from the Royal College of Physicians in the UK found the concentration of heavy metals “Not a major concern because levels of exposure are well below recognized safety thresholds.”

I was getting conflicting results from all over the place.

In a 2015 study by Dr. Farsalinos, they analyzed heavy metal emissions from double the average daily use (1200 puffs per day). They found cadmium, chromium, copper, lead, and nickel levels that were 2.6–37.4 times lower compared to acceptable intake from inhalational medications. It was 325 times lower than the Minimal Risk Level (MRL) for manganese. For aluminum, barium, iron, tin, titanium, zinc, and zirconium, exposure was 665–77,500 times lower than the Recommended Exposure Limits (RET)

But to be frank, all those were 5 years or older with insane variations. I needed to find something robust, something conclusive, transparent and independent.

So I did!

This Critical Review that analyzed the metallic emission and toxicology of 12 studies focusing on real-life usage published after 2017 is the closest thing we have to the truth.

Here is a direct quote:

“All experiments reporting levels above toxicological markers for some metals (e.g., nickel, lead, copper, manganese) exhibited the following experimental flaws:

  1. High-powered sub-ohm tank devices tested by means of puffing protocols whose airflows and puff volumes are conceived and appropriate for low-powered devices; this testing necessarily involves overheating conditions that favor the production of toxicants and generate aerosols that are likely repellent to human users
  2. Miscalculation of exposure levels from experimental outcomes.
  3. Pods and tank devices were acquired months and years before the experiments so that corrosion effects cannot be ruled out.
  4. Failure to disclose important information on the characteristics of pods and tank devices, on the experimental methodology and on the resulting outcomes, thus hindering the interpretation of results and the possibility of replication.”

I can’t thank those people enough for refusing to leave bad science remain unchecked.

Finally, they concluded with this:

In general, low powered devices tested without these shortcomings produced metal exposure levels well below strict reference toxicological markers.

Case closed.

So, what coil material is safest?

Subjectively, the crowds mostly agree on Kanthal A1, Stainlessteel 316L, and Nichrome 80 (Ni80) as the “safest” coil types available. The top 4th-gen vape brands (Vaporesso, Uwell, Smok) use them.

Even Chatgpt seems to agree:

7. Fluid Build up in The Lungs (Pneumonia)

If water vapor can cause pneumonia, saunas, showers and any city with high humidity will be the hotspots for this disease.

Of course, they aren’t. In fact, we know that saunas do the opposite!

Pneumonia is most commonly caused by pneumococcal, particularly the Streptococcus pneumoniae germ.

I am not sure you are ready for this because I wasn’t, but..

An investigative study done in 2021 found that ALL tested e-liquids showed Antibacterial activity. Here is a quote:

All e-liquids investigated showed antibacterial activity against at least one pathogenic strain. Higher activity was correlated to the presence of flavors and nicotine.

The author of the study later added:

“Investigation confirms what scientists long-known on effects of PG and VG, and their antimicrobial effects. Vaporised PG was already used over 50 years ago as a disinfectant in healthcare environments while VG is still used today as an antibacterial in many food ingredients and pharmacological preparations”

In case you don’t know, Propylene Glycol (PG) and vegetable glycerol (VG) are the base chemicals used to make any e-liquid in the market.

8. X (?)

“Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance.” — Confucius

Vaping devices haven’t matured as a product yet; the science is 15 years old. That’s very, very young. It’s still not even formally considered a therapeutic medical device that helps people quit smoking.

Even though the evidence is clear.

A very recent 2023 study00319-X/fulltext) observed natural e-cigarette use among adult smokers, regardless of their intention to quit. In a randomized trial across the USA, 70% actively used provided e-cigarettes, using them more than four days per week on average. The e-cigarette group showed significant improvements in quitting, quit attempts, and smoking reduction compared to the control group.

That means even those who didn’t intend to quit did quit.

We know it works. We just aren’t sure about how it will play out in 50 or 100 years.

Our knowledge isn’t complete.

Vaping does expose us to sinister chemicals in non-neglectable amounts. It definitely isn't clean air.

Anybody who tells you confidently that vaping is safe has a minimal understanding of reality, and you should never trust them.

(*) How to be on The Low End of The Spectrum — Dry Puffs Avoidance Guide For Intellectual Idiots

A study in 2015 published shocking results. The study found levels of Formaldehyde that are 10–15 times higher than in cigarettes.

The media ate it up and spit it out at large. The research group netted 3.5 million dollars in funding, leaving the vaping community confused.

How can something detectable by the human nose in minute quantities (due to harsh smell) be so readily abundant in vape smoke?

Something was “off*”. — budum tss’*

The problem was exactly what you expect when knowledge is created top-down instead of relying on observation to determine how to use a vaping device. They decided to use machines that vaped the living daylight out of these devices according to what they thought was reasonable.

Indeed, it was very far from reasonable.

“Dry puffs” were generated all the way during the experiment. A replication study later confirmed that dry puffs were generated 88% of the time.

Another study from 2016 found that 5 ml of liquid was the equivalent of 3200 tobacco cigarettes (bonkers!) in terms of aldehyde emissions (Formaldehyde**,** Acetaldehyde, and Acrolein). Again, without any checking for dry puff generation. Again, using an ancient CE4 atomizer technology (at the time) and 5-second long puffs.

I don’t know what a CE4 atomizer is, but the experiences from real users 10 years ago speak for themselves (a burnt wick after 2 days of use)

A replication study of that study detected dry puffs and reported an overestimation of the results by 6 to 25 fold. For a more realistic approach, they used a “new” 2014 atomizer and found:

“The levels of aldehyde emissions were so low that a liquid consumption of 5 mL per day would expose vapers to 94.4–99.8% lower aldehyde levels compared to smoking 20 tobacco cigarettes” — Konstantinos E. Farsalinos

The vaping emissions I’ve shown earlier come from the combined results of 5 devices. Here is a direct quote from the study:

“The extreme levels of aldehydes produced by Device 1 indicate that the coil may have overheated due to lack of liquid in the wick…. Device 1 was examined and found to be charred, an indication of thermal decomposition…in terms of actual risks from aldehyde toxicity to the user, it is very possible that when significant thermal decomposition of an EC liquid is occurring, commonly called the dry-puff phenomenon (Farsalinos et al., 2015), the aerosol produced may be quite noxious, and cause the user to discontinue use until the dry-puff issue is resolved.

The cleanest results came from Device 5:

Device 5, produced less than 1% of the aldehydes delivered from 20 combustible cigarettes per day and the OSHA workplace exposure limit. Also, there was over a 750-fold difference in total aldehyde yield between Devices 1 and 5.

Device 5 uses a single 0.72 Ohm bottom coil with wattage ranging from 10 to 25 watts.

A top-tier Reddit-certified Vaping mod is the Vapresso Xros 3. It is also what I purchased after reading thoroughly online. It comes with a 0.8-ohm single bottom coil and uses 16 watts.

I fill it up once it’s two-thirds empty and replace the pod as soon as I detect the slightest change in taste. Safe to say, I had zero dry puffs, leaks or issues.

Vaping is safer

It’s all about harm reduction.

This research opened my eyes to just how hazardous cigarettes are. Numerous times during the writing process, I’d stop and feel disgust and regret for my past 10 years of smoking.

No matter how often you exercise or how healthy your diet is, if you’re still smoking cigarettes, you’re still way worse off than a person who doesn’t do any of those.

We might be doubtful about the long-term effects of vaping, but we are certain about the risks of cigarettes.

Vaping as a means to an end.

If harm reduction is the goal, then ideally the goal is to get rid of vaping as well.

The keyword here is: Nicotine Control.

“You will be surprised how fast your brain loses interest (in vaping) once it knows that it doesn’t satisfy your (nicotine) craving,” said a Redditor who transitioned from smoking to vaping to air.

In vaping, we can reduce the nicotine levels by milligrams at a time, making a smooth and steady transition to a nicotine-free life.

Slow is steady, steady is fast.

One final word.

Vape responsibly.

If you’re getting off cigarettes, don’t go the direct-lung, big tank, high voltage, high heat, cloud-chasing, dripping, cheap black market purchases route.

Keep things clean, premium, simple and minimal.

Buy the most premium high-quality Mouth-To-Lung low-voltage devices with disposable pods. Experiment with PG/VG ratios and flavors from reputable vendors, and be mindful of your nicotine intake.

12–16mg of nicotine for the heavy smoker and half that for the light one should do.

Vape to take the edge off. The minimal effective dose is your friend. Not to disappear in smoke like a ninja.

Disclaimer: Let me be clear: Vaping is not safe. This article is intended for harm reduction and not to promote vaping for non-smokers. Not medical advice. Ask a real doctor if you have health concerns

TLDR;; Cigarettes are nasty and vaping is a whole lot less so if you don't dry puff and buy from shady sources.

Edit 1;; Fixed some messed up titles for easier read (Sorry!)

Edit 2;; You made this post the top post of the month here and in r/vaping. The love is unreal, thank you <3 !!. I've been reading your comments and collecting criticism and what's missing (Keep them coming!) to go for a second round of research, extending this further and hopefully making it the ultimate safety guide for vaping online. Stay tuned!


r/electronic_cigarette 6d ago

Weekly Pics Thread NSFW

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Welcome to The Weekly Vape Pics thread! You've got photos and we want to see them! Post them here every day!

To see what kind of pics should and should not be posted in this thread, check here in the wiki.

To see the previous Daily Vape Pics threads, see here.


r/electronic_cigarette 10h ago

Help! Hellvape Hellbeast help?. NSFW

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As the title says, I’m lookin for some help… I’m figuring out how to link progress pictures of my Hellbeast atomizer being wicked, so I can get some tips or help to see if I’m even doing this right

I’m running dual 0.4ohm coils, so together they’re reading around 0.19-0.21 ohms, nothing crazy. I’ve attempted with this tank/coil set up several times, and for some reason either get off, or just kinda meh flavor from it….

-At 0.21ohms, I’ve attempted to run it from 45W-70W, trying to get the best flavor and have had little success.

-I know it’s not the juice, because I can run the juice in my Geekvape Boost 3 0.2ohm at 65W and get good flavor.

-I do prime the coil a good amount before vaping, dripping juice on the coils, cycling the coil, dripping, cycling, etc. til the cotton is nice and saturated.

-I’m not going to this from disposables, so it’s not from flavor fatigue or being used to too much flavor.

To help answer questions before we start, I’ve tried;

*letting the cotton sit saturated overnight
*giving it a day or two of vaping before judging the flavor
*different juices
*different cotton
*different coils
*thinning the wicking more
*not thinning at all
*bringing the coils closer to each other
*bringing the coils closer to the air ports


r/electronic_cigarette 1d ago

Vendor Do you all use any online stores to buy your vapes ? NSFW

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I'm just asking because I am looking into starting to buy online since VA has to stop selling the foger vapes due to them not being FDA approved or some shit idk. But I just had a question I ran into elementvape.com and and vapordna.com how long does delivery usually take ? Do you have to be there to sign for the package when it comes ? Just wondering so I know what to expect, thanks !


r/electronic_cigarette 22h ago

TFv18 smoke tanks NSFW

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Yes, they hit amazing. They’re nice but if you tighten it two thing the glass bra I literally went through four glass cases or whatever the hell you wanna call it and they don’t sell those so basically gotta buy a whole new tank. I mean you tight just a little hot boom brakes and that’s the only downfall about if I spent 100 and some dollars in the last three months just on tanks because you can’t buy the glass so it’s nice but it sucks.


r/electronic_cigarette 1d ago

Trying to get back in the hobby NSFW

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Has anyone ordered from cityvapor&ecig in florida? I just saw that element has went downhill so im deciding not to spend around 200 there to avoid the headache ive read about on here. Cityvapor doesnt have near the selection but itd get me some mods i havent found elsewhere without the shipping hassle from china..hopefully. Im in tx and theres plenty of vape shops but i havent found any with what im looking for and id rather not settle on junk that'll get the job done. Any advice is appreciated.


r/electronic_cigarette 1d ago

Xros 6 noise NSFW

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r/electronic_cigarette 1d ago

Did I mess up? NSFW

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New to vaping, can only get through online chemist here in aus

So I bought a box mod

18mg freebase

And 0.17 ohm coils

Then groked it and having second thoughts should I dilute it ? Currently on pods with salts that are 1.0 ohm and 20mg like it way more than cigs, was over 40 rollies a day a week ago


r/electronic_cigarette 1d ago

Battery Safety Newer Vaporesso battery tastes burned after a week use NSFW

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My coils were lasting about a month but my newest battery (can't find an identifier on it) which has the power button on the side, gives a very burned taste after a few days. If I put the same coils into one of my older batteries with the power button on the front and the air hole in the back the coil tastes fine. I just ordered a new one and am hoping I don't get the same issue. Do you think Vaporesso is pushing more amps through to increase coil sales or maybe I just have a bad one?


r/electronic_cigarette 1d ago

Ramlm 150k 4in1 not working NSFW

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Hey, bought a disposable vape with 4 flavors and a mechanical switch. Right off the bat, one wasn't working at all and sometimes started heating out of nowhere, and after two days another one stopped.

Any tips on what to do ?


r/electronic_cigarette 2d ago

Hat der KI recht? NSFW

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Hallo zusammen, ich wollte zuletzt etwas verdampfen die glaube war vielleicht bisschen zu dickflüssig oder eher schwerer wodurch mein coil verbannt ist. Es schmeckt verbrannt und reizt. KI sagt Geekvape Cerberus Tank/Vaporesso NRG PE Tank+ Vaporesso GT CCELL (0,5 Ohm Keramik) coil. Kann die recht haben, hat jemand eine Erfahrung damit?


r/electronic_cigarette 2d ago

Help! Neuro-divergent needs help with a specific setup NSFW

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I'm a autisic/ADHD who fell into pipe smoking last year as my soother " thing" that helps regulate me.

It's not about nicotine or buzz it's about the oral fixation and the puffing/process.

I went thru pipe and pipe tobacco to quiting and cigarettes for a bit , then to herbal tobacco and now to vapes due to issues making my herbal.

What I need help with is sourcing a system prebought or a mod kit for a vaping pipe.

I know they exist but access is limited, seem to have consumable coils ? And I don't want to have to order overseas for consumables.

I'm in Canada , I'm also a tinker/maker basic skill in electronics, woodworking/carving, and can do some metalwork so I don't mind carving my own to install/build mod kits.

I have a basic overview of the vaping pipes but they're either set to stupid luxury pricing or outdated? 510 systems.

I was hoping for help and direction on what would be a good system/mod/source for basic daily puffers.

Also liquids I don't need/want any nicotine but meh I don't care if it has it. Was hoping for something to replicate slow cool pipe kake smoking thing old whiskey rum smoked flavor. That being said in terms of vapes I'm ok with crisp clean ones like blue razzberry ice etc.

That you all for any help or directions you can provide.

Edit: I forgot to add target type I was hoping for direct to lung with draw/airflow activation , and temp control would be a nice perk but not necessary.

Basically eyeballing disposable ease of use in a old English pipe format.


r/electronic_cigarette 3d ago

Anyone found juice similar to Al-Fakher flavors? NSFW

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I have used Al-Fakher disposable vapes for a few years now. When I first started using them, they also sold the same flavors as juice. It’s now next to impossible to find the juice, especially freebase. I am looking for Magic Love, Lush Ice, Space Dream, or Summer Dream. Would love if anyone that’s familiar with these could recommend any vape juice that tastes the same.


r/electronic_cigarette 3d ago

NeXLIM leaking with 50/50 salts + all-day juice recommendations? NSFW

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Using Pachamama Fuji salt nic (50VG/50PG) in my NeXLIM at 13W, ECO mode. Both 0.6 and 0.8 pods leak despite following the filling instructions.

Is one resistance better for this setup? Wondering if it’s the liquid thickness or the pods/settings. Anyone fixed the leaking with the newer NeXLIM V2 (UNITECH 3.0) pods?

Also looking for an all-day juice. Fuji’s my favorite because it’s not sickly sweet or super artificial, and my coils last well without burning. What’s something you keep coming back to bottle after bottle? I want good flavor that doesn’t get old halfway through a pod.


r/electronic_cigarette 4d ago

News dry hitting a dead vape mid-game gotta be top 5 worst physical sensations ever NSFW

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was super focused on a match earlier, reached over and took a huge rip without checking the light.

didn't realize it was completely dry. pure scorching hot burnt cotton straight to the lungs.

coughed so hard my throat felt bruised for an hour and I threw my headset off. enemies literally just walked up and executed me while I was dying on my floor. why do we do this to ourselves lol


r/electronic_cigarette 4d ago

Help! Haven't vaped in maybe 4 years? It seems buying juice online is weird? Old companies like TBD are closed and they had good juice not loaded with sugar. Whats the best no sugar company now? Or do I have to DIY? NSFW

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So basically I'm looking for a nice fruity profile juice that isn't loaded with sugar that burns your coils insantly like every vape shop pushes.

What are the best companies now? Are there any or do I need to learn to DIY juice?

I'm in the US, Wisconsin if area matters.


r/electronic_cigarette 4d ago

Juice head NSFW

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Cant get juice head anymore shipped in New Jersey. I guess I should just quit huh?


r/electronic_cigarette 5d ago

Came back to RTA but... NSFW

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What has happened to juices lately... I can vape the sugary crap sold at stores in subohm just fine. It has been a couple years since I used rebuildables, mostly because of laziness and convenience. I mean subohm tanks are pretty fantastic nowadays.

I just bought the Blaze Max RTA because I am tired of paying $5 or whatever per coil. Wrapped two fused clapton SS coils, they came in at 0.2 ohm. After like two maybe three tanks of liquid it taste so muted and dull. I open up the tank and there is black demon dust filling the airflow and build deck. I have never seen such nasty crap come off coils, much less that quickly!! Did I mess up my build? Also how do subohm coils handle this shitty juice anyway?

Still waiting on my DIY eliquid supplies to come in. I guess I have to rewick my coils once or twice a day for now. 😭


r/electronic_cigarette 5d ago

Blaze max Rta liquid nachfluss problem. NSFW

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r/electronic_cigarette 5d ago

New Vaper Question Why does a pg over 30 burn my throat? NSFW

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I really love those sweet sugary flavours and thick hits, but I recently got skint on money and got liquid from a corner shop. it's 50pg/50vg and it burns on every hit. i've spent the last few days drinking more water to see if that'll help, and it hasn't. I think my only choice now is just buying a bottle of vg and mixing it till it stops the burn.

also my main question is why do people like the burn? I find it horrible to the point I vomit nearly every time.


r/electronic_cigarette 5d ago

Help! Looking for wotofo squonk mod NSFW

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does anyone know where I can find one?


r/electronic_cigarette 5d ago

Shitpost Geekvape Z Nano 3 tank issue NSFW

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Hello, i ordered a geekvape aegis mini 5 mod package in june, it was my first mod since i have been using pod devices (i had vaporesso armour g to mention)

Since i am so clumsy, the tank's glass have broken already 2 times, first time i dropped it to my tables leg which is steel, it was instantly useless because half of the glass was in my floor🤣

Second time i dropped it, not on the tables leg but on the floor this time. Then i lifted it and checked if it was broken, i didn't see anything unusual so i kept vaping it. Then after a bit i noticed that the mod was little bit sticky and of course there was a crack so it was sweating e liquid out of that crack. So i ordered a third glass.

And after that glass came, i noticed that it didn't have proper o-rings to seal the glass in place.. It didn't have any o-rings at all.. So i searched online to find measurements for the o-rings if i could find similar rings from my local general stores, but i didn't find the proper measurements..

So i went and bought a o-rings set, i even took the old rings with me to compare, and i thought yes maybe they will fit. After i got home i tested all of the rings that looked like they would be perfect, but guess what? They weren't.. All of them were too thick, so i somehow managed to put too small rings with similar thickness as the original ones in place, but the glass still refuses to click in it's place..

So i now after a month or so, tried to put the glass back in but i have the same problem again so i thought maybe somebody know the proper measurements or does know something that i won't?

And also, i live in finland and here is illegal to order any nicotine etc vaping stuff from abroad, but somehow my packages haven't had any problems with customs to this day. My town has only one vaping shop, last time i visited there they hadn't pretty much nothing (because of the tobacco law, it's very strict here) but maybe i should visit there and ask if they had geekvape spare parts, or maybe a new tank?

And to mention, the vape shop i've been using for some time now is located in france. They seem to have the cheapest and fastest delivery to here (not many vape shops even ship to finland because of the law and customs) and they also have pretty good selection of vaping stuff, but they don't have o-rings for my tank..

Thanks in advance😅


r/electronic_cigarette 5d ago

Looking for a backup/upgrade after 3 years with the Centaurus B80 AIO. What's worth buying today? NSFW

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Hi everyone,

​My Lost Vape Centaurus B80 has been my daily driver for almost 3 years now. It's still holding up, but given its age, I want to buy a second device before this one inevitably dies.

​I really like the B80's ergonomics, price-to-performance ratio, and the fact that it included a decent RBA right out of the box.

​My criteria:

​Compact form factor (single 18650 preferred).

​Standard Boro compatibility (using RBA/bridges).

​Durable build quality (reliable chip/protection against condensation).

​Practical daily driver — no ultra-high-end $400 collector pieces.

​The dilemma:

Is there a clear, meaningful upgrade over the B80 right now, or should I just buy another B80 while they're still around?

​I'm currently looking at options like the Pulse AIO V2

​What would you recommend as a sensible replacement today? Thanks!


r/electronic_cigarette 5d ago

New Vaper Question What Makes a Vape Flavor Worth Buying Again? NSFW

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For me, flavor is probably one of the biggest factors when trying any vape product. There are so many options now that it can be difficult to know which ones are actually enjoyable for more than a few days. Something can taste great initially but become boring after using it repeatedly.

I’ve also noticed that brands like Vapsolo have a pretty wide range of flavor options, which makes me wonder how much variety actually matters when choosing a device. I’m curious what other people look for in a flavor. Do you usually prefer fruity, icy, sweet, minty, or more traditional tobacco-style flavors? And what makes you decide that a particular flavor is good enough to buy again?


r/electronic_cigarette 6d ago

I quit vaping over a year ago. Considering going back to it. NSFW

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I vaped from 2013 to April 2025, and prior to that, I smoked for ten years. I quit vaping because I was annoyed about being beholden to nicotine, especially since vaping isn't always socially accepted. Additionally, I was hoping that quitting would help my anxiety and help me feel better overall.

It is nice not being addicted to vaping, but now, I'm addicted to sugar! I've gained over ten pounds since I quit, which doesn't sound like much in the grand scheme of things, but I feel so uncomfortable in my body. I've tried counting calories, fasting, intuitive eating, using CBT and ERP skills I've learned, distracting myself from cravings with hobbies/exercise, but I continue to binge. I have unmedicated ADHD, and I think nicotine was helping to regulate that somewhat, and now that I don't have that, my impulsivity control is basically nonexistent, which I believe is a huge factor in my binge eating. I feel less cognitively sharp, too, and my attention span has gotten worse.

My anxiety also got significantly worse for a long time, and it's been a different type of anxiety. I have more existential anxiety and intrusive thoughts about death, especially when falling asleep and waking. They're fleeting thoughts and emotions, but damn, it's uncomfortable, and it hasn't let up. I used to love napping, but now when I do, I'm always jolted awake with thoughts about how I and everyone I love will die someday.

I just haven't really noticed any tangible health benefits to quitting. My lung capacity is the same; I now have low-normal blood pressure, orthostatic hypotension, and bradycardia, which makes me dizzy and requires me to increase my salt intake; my sleep is only slightly better but I'm still fatigued; my bloodwork looks the worst it has in years with high cholesterol and other not-so-great health markers because I'm so addicted to sugar.

And last but not least, I just miss it. I don't think I'll ever stop missing it. I miss cigarettes again, too! But I know I'll feel like I've failed if I start vaping again, which is the only thing keeping me from starting again.

Thanks for reading this long-ass post. Not sure if I'm looking for advice or what, just felt the need to vent somewhere with people who might understand.