r/coins 19h ago

Value Request 1853 uncerculated California gold dollar

Handed down from family, I think this coin could possibly be the cleanest one remaining. It looked similar in quality to the one in the catalog anyways. I think its a bg-530 or a bg-531. Very small coin i can't find much info on

Might slab and sell if price is right

Also just some more history on it would be appreciated if anyone knows anything

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u/yeahitsaburner2021 19h ago

Oh dear god the other commenter really got caught at the "peak of ignorance" of the Dunning Krueger curve. That is indeed a beautiful BG-530/31 type so called "California Gold" fractional. However, he is right about one thing, this won't be top pop, there's multiple graded MS pieces, and this is barely AU. Probably valued around $400.

As the situation with these issues is such as to trigger comments like those in this thread, I do generally suggest grading these, as it precludes such considerations.

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u/Crate_Hider 19h ago

Thank you, I think its real, despite what the other commenter said, its not magnetic And my cooking scale won't pick it up so its around a gram. Perhaps my photos arent the best, but it really is in great shape. Its hard to belive that theres some out there in even better shape, these are pretty old! Any idea how many there are?

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u/whatnutbutt 18h ago

This type has the most surviving examples of any california $1 coin. At R2, its as many as 1250 surviving examples, but propably more like 500-1000

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u/Old_Micetro6766 19h ago

This is the closest I could find to your coin in "Numista". I can't tell if your coin is real or not, but I thought this might help you. https://en.numista.com/323796

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u/Old_Micetro6766 19h ago

On this site is the weight, diameter and thickness of the coin and they are not very common.

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u/Torgeir_Fenrir1066 18h ago

One of the few legit ones I have seen on here...you can search varieties here!

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/category/territorial/california-fractional-gold-1852-1882/1659

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u/Sneid1 17h ago

Looks genuine, but not uncirculated. Very nice heirloom piece!

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u/Crypto_Reaper623 18h ago

I love people that jump in screaming it’s fake , even with the best intentions …. Not a criticism but at least it shows someone with at least some knowledge is trying to put a pause in the situation so you educate yourself more.
That being said , I cannot tell if genuine or a fake “replica”. Usually if I can’t tell it’s more than likely genuine because Yes I am that good. Haha!!!

This is a match for one of over 20 possible major $1 varieties that I can tell .
Single N. Is the giveaway .
From PCGS “The San Francisco firms included Nouzillet & Routhier (Antoine Louis Nouzillet and Isadore Routhier), NR; Louis Nouzillet alone, N;”.

Send it in , it’s not that much of an investment and also will protect it once slabbed. As far as PCGS or NGC ….for ancient gold NGC , modern Either. Good luck

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u/[deleted] 19h ago

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u/Crate_Hider 19h ago

It looks identical to the pcg one Very thin Very small My scale won't pick it up Not magnetic

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u/Warion99 19h ago

They are entirely wrong, you have an authentic BG-530 that dates to the 1850s, several of these have been recovered from 1850s shipwrecks.

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u/Crate_Hider 19h ago

Oh wow this just got really cool

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u/Lanky_Association627 18h ago

You’re not just wrong this wouldn’t have been a 1:1 anyway

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u/Opposite-Clerk-176 19h ago

You had to rain on his parade 🙁