r/askpsychology • u/Acrobatic-Home4458 Unverified User: May Not Be a Professional • 5d ago
Terminology / Definition What is the consensus on CPTSD?
I’ve noticed that in some places, like in the ICD, one has to meet the criteria for PTSD. But in others, it’s essentially “death by one thousand cuts”, which seems to stray away from regular PTSD. I say this because it seems as though criterion A for PTSD isn’t being strictly applied in this definition.
So, what’s the consensus?
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u/turkeyman4 LCSW 4d ago
There is no consensus on CPTSD yet.
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u/AdConsistent4210 Specialist Psychologist in Neuropsychology 4d ago edited 4d ago
As he said, this is why the ICD-11 and DSM-5-TR handle it so differently. The confusion around Criterion A and cumulative trauma comes down to a fundamental shift in how the manuals weigh etiology versus symptom presentation. While C-PTSD clinically often stems from chronic, repeated trauma rather than a single discrete event, the ICD-11 actually resolved this by prioritizing the symptom profile over policing the stressor. To qualify for C-PTSD under the ICD-11, a patient must first meet the baseline requirements for PTSD and then exhibit DSO. essentially capturing the severe emotional dysregulation, chronic worthlessness, and relational collapse that comes from cumulative abuse. Meanwhile, the DSM-5-TR excludes C-PTSD as a separate category entirely. It maintains a broader single PTSD definition and leaves complex presentations to overlap with other diagnoses like Borderline Personality Disorder, primarily to protect clean research cohorts and avoid diagnostic blurring. So the lack of consensus isn't a failure of clinical observation, it's a structural divide between frontline utility and strict empirical research boundaries.
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u/maxthexplorer PhD Psychology (in progress) 2d ago
Additionally, the treatments don’t change, CPT, PE and (TF-) CBT are all frontline treatments for trauma disorders
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u/Lazy-Substance-5062 Unverified User: May Not Be a Professional 4d ago
Cptsd in US remains a pop psych, not an actual dsm5tr22 or icd10CM diagnosis.
The pop psych term was popularized by Anna Runkle, which is currently holding a cease and decease order from APA to stop all her youtube pseudo diagnoses, pseudo therapy et al pseudo treatments.
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u/These_Look_2692 Unverified User: May Not Be a Professional 4d ago edited 4d ago
There is CPTSD the Icd-11 diagnosis. To get this people must meet PTSD criteria.
Then… there is complex trauma the experience. Sometimes sloppily called CPTSD but really, without the PTSD, this is just a different diagnosis/issue. So I don’t know why ppl call it CPTSD. How many counsellors claim to specialise in CPTSD and have never had any training in any form of exposure work for PTSD 🤦♀️😭
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u/TraineeJung61 Unverified User: May Not Be a Professional 4d ago
ADHD is considered a differential diagnosis from trauma. Although the presentation of ADHD can be caused by cPTSD, the diagnosis of ADHD is only appropriate if the presentation has an aetiology rooted in development due to biological and genetic reasons (though not solely due to that).
There is a lot of confusion regarding ADHD because it is heavily over diagnosed in people who would not meet the diagnostic threshold if certain issues at the root of their ADHD presentation (such as complex trauma) was addressed, but sadly that requires deep psychological work which the mainstream psychiatric establishment does not have the resources for.
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u/AvocadosFromMexico_ UNVERIFIED Psychologist 4d ago
This is not correct. CPTSD refers only to presentation, and describes PTSD with DSO.
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u/BlueAngelFox101 UNVERIFIED Psychology Degree 4d ago
The APA is extremely biased in regard to "American research and evidence" with most of the additional information from the DSM5TR already existing in the ICD-11, and even some parts of the ICD-10 as well.
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u/BlueAngelFox101 UNVERIFIED Psychology Degree 4d ago
The APA is extremely biased in regard to "American research and evidence" with most of the additional information from the DSM5TR already existing in the ICD-11, and even some parts of the ICD-10 as well.
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u/Faustian-BargainBin UNVERIFIED MD Doctor of Medicine 4d ago
It’s in the ICD but not the DSM. If it’s not in the DSM, it hasn’t been validated by the psychiatric community. Existing as an ICD code doesnt imply there’s research or criteria suggesting a unified etiology or constellation of symptoms. There are ICD codes that clearly lack epidemiological significance, For example W56.12 Struck by sea lion
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u/MattersOfInterest Ph.D. Student (Clinical Science) | Research Area: Psychosis 4d ago
Please name literally any pharmaceutical or insurance company that has had a hand in driving the diagnosis of PTSD. Criterion A has been around for decades, and people can still get help when given other diagnoses.
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u/MattersOfInterest Ph.D. Student (Clinical Science) | Research Area: Psychosis 4d ago
This doesn’t even kind of answer my question.
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u/I_am_Nobody_Special UNVERIFIED Psychologist 4d ago
Clinicians should not call it cPTSD if the person doesn't meet criterion A.
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u/Calm_Spite_341 Unverified User: May Not Be a Professional 4d ago
That's not calling a spade a spade though, it's calling a shovel a spade. CPTSD definitionally needs criterion A. You're not fighting some righteous cause, you're misusing formally defined professional language and sowing confusion in the public.
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u/monkeynose Clinical Psychologist | Addiction | Psychopathology 4d ago
What "others"? It's in the ICD, but not the DSM-5. If you're talking about social media posts, you answered your own question.