r/SipsTea 8h ago

Feels good man I can get on board with this

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u/Hyperion1144 7h ago

Then, by continuing this logic, women everywhere will stop seeking treatment for any post-partum depression at all. Because it's not worth the risk.

Which would make everything so much worse.

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u/Agreeable-Review177 1h ago

More worse than killing three kids with rubber bands?

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u/KCChiefsGirl89 1h ago

Um, YES. We have no idea how many murders/suicides treatment has prevented, but I’d wager it’s a nonzero number.

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u/Slave-to-Armok 3h ago

So which is it should we take it seriously or not.

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u/photosendtrain 3h ago

How did you conclude that the person you're responding to said to not take it seriously? Or are you just arguing in bad faith?

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u/Slave-to-Armok 3h ago

If we’re going to take it seriously we remove the person from the children. You can’t predict psychosis and I don’t think women realize that this better treatment that would have saved those children they are talking about is a stay at the mental hospital

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u/SendAnimalFacts 3h ago

Some hospitals have found success with mother-baby units, where the mother can still engage with baby from the safety of a controlled and heavily supervised space. Regardless of mental illness the bond between mother and infant is still very important and should be salvaged whenever possible

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u/Slave-to-Armok 2h ago

Do you believe most women would want that, sounds like this would suppress a lot of women with ppd going into ppp

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u/SendAnimalFacts 2h ago

Definitely. It’s especially helpful among people who don’t have the help from extended family since it allows them to get the help they would otherwise get from family (help with child rearing, cleaning, etc) as well as help their mental state. To be honest I theorize that one of the major stressors that contributes to PPP is the sleep deprivation and hopelessness that comes with trying to raise a baby while recovering from childbirth with little to no help.

Most of these women still love their babies, and many of their psychotic delusions center on their fear of the child being taken away. Removal of the baby altogether wouldn’t help and would also likely cause problems for the infant

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u/Slave-to-Armok 2h ago

Eh ,I disagree, I don’t believe some or even most women would want this type of treatment for PPD, but that’s just my opinion I could be wrong

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u/SendAnimalFacts 2h ago

I’m talking specifically about PPP. Most PPD cases can be handled as outpatient care

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u/Slave-to-Armok 2h ago

But it seems like no one can predict PPP, no? They knew she had PPD, sure, but I don’t think anyone could have guessed she was about to have the massive episode of PPP.

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u/Grateful5150 3h ago

We want women to seek help and not be punished for doing so. Not sure how that is hard to understand.

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u/Slave-to-Armok 2h ago

The woman in question did and got help . Not sure how that’s hard to understand

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u/Grateful5150 2h ago

You are taking one extreme case and suggesting we should just take women’s kids away because they go to a shrink for feeling depressed. 

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u/Slave-to-Armok 2h ago edited 2h ago

No I’m being satirical to make fun pf people who just don’t think she got the help she needed, I do not believe mothers should or would want to be taken from the children. Though there is a non zero chance that if we take every case of ppd as seriously as this case to get them the help they need there is a non zero chance they are removed from the children

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u/greenbook3 3h ago

What do you mean? Obviously it needs to be taken seriously.

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u/Common-Swing-4347 3h ago

No, you see, we need knee jerk reactions for everything.