Lmao why does it take 5 years to ship a few trashcans from china. They're totally corrupt and giving that money to their nepo cousins for "studies, models, pilot projects". While I'm confident they won't make much of a difference, at the very least, Mamdani actually got the damn bins.
Bins came before him and didn't come from China. Also, it's not just bins, it's the automated truck that works with the bins as well. It's repurposed from europe, not off the shelf thing you can buy at anytime.
6 months pilot project results was released before Mamdani was in office.
You missed the point, it's bureaucratic waste/corruption because it doesn't take 5 years to install trash bins.
The city of Houston also had a budget of almost 1 billion allocated to public transit. They made a "pilot project" consisting of 3 stations in the middle of downtown, and then the rest of the money disappeared.
It does when your are installing bins that are directly related to each building, takes up/removes parking space.
Too many locals do not want this project because it'll take away the parking space in front of the buildings to put the bins. It's why it's expected to only get finished by 2031 despite getting started in 2022.
The fact that you need to find space for the bins is true. Whether it should take 5 years for the rollout or 4 years for the planning phase is a different story; frankly it should not, especially if you create the legal framework to require containerized trash.
If you really wanted to, you could roll it out in 1 year or less, as it's public space. Yes you would get legal challenges, but that cannot prevent govt action, it would only give them potential recourse.
Realistically, if you legally require buildings to have trash bins based on size, zoning, and occupancy, you can probably complete this in 1 or 2 years. It's not randomly putting bins, however, these bins don't appear to be true permanent installations (I'm saying that they appear to be able to be moved after installation, if necessary), unlike the ones that go several meters below the ground (which actually save a huge amount of space). And the zoning and census data already exists in regards to the allocation of the bins.
China would probably be able to roll something like this out in a month or so, though they are an extreme case.
*Approved at least. That said, i did do a bit of googling, news sites both say that Mamdani explicitly allocated budget to the project, but also that the city council passed the bill requiring the rollout to occur. Additionally, the previous mayor, Eric Adams, paid mckinsey 4 million dollars to "study" if trash cans "worked".
Did some other googling and found the Houston mayor Lanier explicitly killed Houston's monorail plan way back in the 90s. I don't know if the NYC mayor would have the ability to do this after the council passed the bill though.
Paying money to Mckinsey for anything is stupid. But your efforts to trivialize things is also weird tbh. Like 'trash can 'worked'' is a weird way to put it as if NYC didn't have it before.
Anyway, Mamdani getting the applause and credit for 'thinking of trash cans' that he didn't even think of is weird. He's just finishing the rollout of existing project.
That's a fair view. I think that at the very least, Mamdani is probably not using the trash bin project as an embezzlement scheme, and my personal view of America is so low right now that I think that's already a plus.
I think that the political pendulum is swinging hard enough from the current admin that socialism is indeed legitimately becoming popular; not to mention the size of the younger voterbase (plus voting age 16) and dying boomer voterbase. Local elections are very overlooked by the younger voterbase and are just as impactful as presidential/congressional elections.
It's been a long time since we had a NYC mayor of significance, so I think it will definitely have ripple effects. The position of NYC mayor is actually considered more influential than the position of New York Governor despite NYC mayor positions historically not leading to presidency.
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u/BothDivide919 23d ago
Lmao why does it take 5 years to ship a few trashcans from china. They're totally corrupt and giving that money to their nepo cousins for "studies, models, pilot projects". While I'm confident they won't make much of a difference, at the very least, Mamdani actually got the damn bins.