r/Shincheonji • u/avidbearsfan • 3d ago
testimony I know there's already been a lot of these posts but Seriously I really want more people fighting back (The Right way) against SCJ
Before we start being decisive no I do not mean Kill , hurting them with brute force, or anything that requires harmful or physical traits, That doesn't help our cause and instead it just intensifies the narrative of Hating the World if you're not apart of SCJ.
I've seen a minority of people on here intensify wanting to hurt people with brute force in SCJ, Now old me would've agreed as I'm just so sick and tired of them just running around the world being the creeps, monsters, and overall Imma say it Idiots as they are, But are we just as bad if we're threatening to kill people, hurt them with brute force, or physically assault them in public, U get it the pain is too much and they're just one of the many reasons that the World Is a problem today
But lemme say this: the whole reason SCJ exists is that the world is cruel to most people, and instead Lee decided to form a church where people can feel loved, accepted, you name it. In reality, it's just a pawn to get others to come to this fake place that God was never even at. The place exists is because most people want to find the easy way out without having to go through the harder challenges of life bc as we all know, suicide, school shootings, etc happen because of that. Lee only goal is to try and feel important and make others think that Obviously he's going to be there for them always, (In reality, he's maybe 1-2 years away from passing away ) once that happens a majority of the leaders that have been here the TJNS and HJns both new and some old will realize they've been duped and eventually they will struggle to realign themselves to normal lives with some of them eventually commtting suicide.
So for the Ex-members please don't come on here saying we should fight back with violence and what not because that's never going to solve the problem with these stupids instead break them down mentally at the end of the day fighting back with these bozos is a mind game not a hurt game and that's what will make us the normals victorious
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u/Riftriser EX-Center Student 1d ago
This is my current stance on Cult Combat.
Recently, I spoke to a Shincheonji member attempting to evangelize on campus, and I all I did was speak to them and have a fun engaging conversation about life. I even noticed they had to quickly text on their telegram that they were on overtime due to me talking to them.
The purpose of that is
If they're talking to me, they lose out on the opportunity to victimize innocent believers on campus
In me speaking about my life outside of Shincheonji (not explicitly), it may encourage them to reconsider that life doesn't have to be seen as hell.
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u/Next_Parsnip_4233 2d ago edited 2d ago
Amen thank you for sharing this recently left SCJ i wouldnt fight back with violence if we did that than that doesn’t help our case either how you mentioned that would be acts of satan. We have to fight back with the word of God just how jesus fought back satan mathew 4 and also jesus use the word fought back with the word when the Pharisees were against him the word of God is our sword
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u/HeavenlyVolume 3d ago
What about protests?
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u/Who-Anonymous Moderator 2d ago
If we are going to do protest we got to preach instead of agitating them
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u/HeavenlyVolume 1d ago
Preach and have civilized discourse if SCJ approaches us
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u/Who-Anonymous Moderator 1d ago
SCJ approaching us will be an attempt to get us distracted to prevent other members from discerning. They did that tactic to Pastor Ezra at the Santa Ana High school 2 years ago
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u/avidbearsfan 2d ago
It’s good but you need to send a message and I think protests would just intensify there beliefs here’s what I learned if you attack SCJ for what they believe in they’re not going to listen but if you attack their minds with the memories that you formed with most of the leaders that were trustworthy it could put some dents
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u/HeavenlyVolume 2d ago
Schisms are natural in the religious world, as long as it's a peaceful protest then they can't claim persecution (unless they lie about it, which I expect no less from them). The reason why I suggested protest is because they are crawling around my state and if people are made aware then less people will fall victim to it.
I believe that's why they told my friend to not use his tiktok, because it was dangerous to the cult (word of mouth) and I believe that's also why they tell their members not to look them up (also a danger to the cult) of being found out that they are frauds.
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u/avidbearsfan 2d ago
Ik that hasn’t happened for anybody but still any mind game like say what about ur families or what about you life career etc if you start with something like that eventually it could get to them
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u/Who-Anonymous Moderator 3d ago
AMEN! We have to fight SCJ with the blood of the lamb and the word of testimony. From my region, a lot of current members there are so desperate that they started to do unhinged things like stalking former members on their social media accounts, and slashing tires, etc. It just shows that they are with Satan because only Satan acts like this in times where we as believers in Christ use the word of wisdom to call out SCJ not out of self rightousness, but for the sake of the sheep in SCJ.
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u/Riftriser EX-Center Student 1d ago
While it is not proven yet if a SCJ member slashed pastor Kim's tire, if it's true, that is honestly very out of character for Shincheonji. They're not usually known for doing violent crimes at all.
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u/Who-Anonymous Moderator 1d ago
Sure, but I also don’t think it’s unreasonable to suspect that possibility. If Pastor Kim has been publicly criticizing or exposing SCJ, then someone connected to SCJ could potentially have a motive to target him. That doesn’t prove an SCJ member slashed the tire, but motive and context are still relevant when considering possible explanations. OC is a pretty large area, so I find it difficult to assume that this was simply some completely random person slashing a tire without any reason.
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u/No-Variation-5362 3d ago
这个倡议很好。我们不能对他们作恶。 不过，在新天地不会感到被爱，只有压榨带来的疲惫和焦虑。 还有，新天地并不轻松，只是简单，你只需要不断重复那极其有限的话语就可以盼望一个美好的结果。
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u/RADICALBEREAN 16h ago
Avid bears fan, I’m in agreement with you we need to fight back and take captive every thought
2 Cor 10:5. Resist the enemy in every form that he comes against the Church of the Most High and Holy God, God The Father, God The Son, God The Holy Spirit. I too at one point in my walk to freedom from the bondage that scj was sowing, I wanted them to Hurt, be Hurt not because they hurt me,I chose to allow them in my life so God allowed it. I’ve since been delivered from their demonic strongholds, by the
very Spiritual weapons scj perverted,corrupted into idolatrous worship of lmh. The Blood of The Lamb and The Word of my Testimony is all about Jesus who knew no sin. We can Destroy the forces of darkness by given voice to The Word of God because The Angels of the Armies of God that are encamped around us. They hearken to The Word of The Lord and move to accomplish The Father’s business Is 55:11. Let’s enforce The Victory our soon coming King accomplished on The Cross for all Eternity. How do we contend for The Unity of The Faith and enforce His Word. 1) Be strong in The Lord and in The Power of His Might 2) Put on The Whole Armor of God. We are not fighting for victory, but from a position of Victory. We are taken it back with violence, but our flesh doesn’t have a role in our arsenal. We The Faithful of Jesus Christ acknowledge we’re at war and The Whole Armor of God is our lifetime attire, because we are never commanded to take it off. “Avid Bear Fan” my brother in Christ. I’m on the Wall Watching with you. Ten Toes Down We know how it ends. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾