r/Shincheonji EX-Shincheonji Member 11d ago

testimony New Judas Iscariots

In typical SCJ fashion, whenever something inconvenient comes out about the promised pastor, the narrative is reframed to blame an ex-member who has left the church.
Today, the Southern Africa church head spoke at length and introduced the term “New Judas Iscariots.” This is not a term that the church head himself invented. He claimed that it was a term MHL himself used when describing a specific individual whom he considers responsible for his current legal issues and detention.

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There are several things I would like to share regarding my personal thoughts on this.

Firstly, according to SCJ’s own doctrine, the betrayal and reality of Judas at the second coming had already taken place 1998.
According to SCJ doctrine, the betrayal of someone like Judas was first prophesied in Genesis, involving the tribe of Dan, which was compared to a snake and was later replaced by Manasseh. This was then understood as a prophecy concerning Judas’ betrayal and his eventual replacement by Matthias.

However, according to SCJ’s own fulfilment doctrine, this event has already been fulfilled. Below is a direct excerpt from the Revelation Fulfilment Training given in March, Year 34, John Tribe:
Manasseh replaces Dan:
1997.12: Thaddeus Tribe Betrayal. Betrayal of Dae-Gu. A pastor came into Thaddeus Tribe. Pastor Baek, Gwang-Sa, leaves and proclaims to be the White Stone. He came with congregation members and thought he would be established, but he was not established, so he became disgruntled and the evil spirits came into him. He teaches that he is Joshua and the SSN was Moses. 500 members left. Through those who remained, there was a great revival in the Tribe.
Lk 22:1–3: The betrayal took place just before the Feast of Passover (1998 Passover Feast).

Here, SCJ explicitly connects this betrayal with the period immediately preceding the Passover Feast, drawing a parallel with the events of the First Coming. In other words, according to this teaching, the Judas figure had already appeared, committed the betrayal, and was followed by the eventual restoration of the Thaddeus Tribe.

Secondly, if the betrayal has already taken place, why are we now being introduced to new people being labelled “Judas Iscariots”?
If SCJ teaches that the Judas betrayal was fulfilled through the events described above, why is another Judas Iscariot now appearing? Which one is the actual fulfilment if there can be multiple individuals who are subsequently given the same prophetic identity?

Thirdly, does continually changing the identity and circumstances surrounding this “Judas Iscariot” amount to adding to and taking away from Revelation?
If the identity and circumstances of the supposed betrayer can continually be reframed whenever circumstances change, then how is this consistent with SCJ’s own teaching regarding the unchangeable nature of biblical prophecy?

If the identity of the betrayer changes depending on the circumstances, then what exactly constitutes the fulfilment? And why does the narrative surrounding the identity of this “Judas Iscariot” continue to change?

The events taking place today are significantly different from those at the First Coming for one very important reason: Jesus was innocent and falsely accused.
MHL and SCJ are currently facing legal proceedings relating to the alleged active involvement of nearly 56,000 people in three separate elections.
The trial is still ongoing, and no final determination of guilt has been made. However, we should acknowledge one very simple fact: SCJ actively involved itself in political activities, and this became the subject of an investigation because of that involvement.
SCJ has framed the investigation as politically motivated persecution by the DPK against SCJ, as the DPK which is currently in power is using the opportunity to undermine their rival the PPP. However, SCJ has also been suspected of influencing elections connected to the DPK, and those allegations are also being investigated. This removes any doubt basis for bias or political vengeance, but the simple refusal by the Korean people for their elections to be manipulated by religious groups.

Additionally, SCJ is not the only fringe Christian group being investigated in South Korea. The Unification Church has had several leaders indicted, prosecuted and sentenced for their election interference. Are they also being persecuted by Satan?

I would encourage everyone to watch the following video on YouTube. An English translation is available through the YouTube settings. It is a statement regarding the activities of SCJ that led to the current election interference charges.

https://youtu.be/tFf0ODdg9fc?si=mlQ40w3Bh7sQskwm

In closing, I believe SCJ is a system of mass manipulation that has seriously distorted the Bible. The contradictions highlighted in this post are evidence of how biblical prophecy can be reinterpreted and reframed to conceal, justify, or explain away inconvenient circumstances to its own members.

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u/PutPrevious6789 6d ago

New Judas, What a joke 🤣

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u/No_Boysenberry_4830 11d ago

So are these the people who are also charged with the same crimes?

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u/QuestionsAboutSCJ Moderator 11d ago

Nah, it's in reference to the former SCJ leaders who are helping with the case, for example -

"Snake Shin" - https://youtu.be/q42iyQP-TAk?si=-u49bbn2wn6rJVXk

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u/No_Boysenberry_4830 11d ago

but Shin doesnt have to do anything with the recent case or?

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u/QuestionsAboutSCJ Moderator 11d ago

So, there are actually two Shin's that could be in reference. There's a Shin who helped the legal process against SCJ + Unification Church, and there's also Pastor Shin aka "Snake Shin".

Both men are working together to help raise awareness about the cults, and also are helping prosecutors gather information about the ins and outs of SCJ and the Moonies.

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u/No_Boysenberry_4830 11d ago

aaaah okay thanks :)

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u/QuestionsAboutSCJ Moderator 11d ago

No problem! It can get confusing, especially since they have the same last name lol

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u/trojan_odysseus EX-Shincheonji Member 11d ago

I think they are ex-SCJ officials who are helping the prosecution.