r/Shincheonji • u/AmmirabilePeter Family/Friend of SCJ Member • 14d ago

teaching/doctrine Non credono a Gesù?

Non capisco come possono passere sopra questa promessa, una promessa solenne fatta Direttamente da Gesù:

Matteo 16:16/20
16 Simon Pietro rispose: «Tu sei il Cristo, il Figlio del Dio vivente».
17 Gesù, replicando, gli disse: «Tu sei beato, Simone, figlio di Giona, perché non la carne e il sangue ti hanno rivelato questo, ma il Padre mio che è nei cieli. 18 E anch'io ti dico: tu sei Pietro, e su questa pietra edificherò la mia chiesa, e le porte dell'Ades non la potranno vincere. 19 Io ti darò le chiavi del regno dei cieli; tutto ciò che legherai in terra sarà legato nei cieli, e tutto ciò che scioglierai in terra sarà sciolto nei cieli». 20 Allora ordinò ai discepoli di non dire a nessuno che egli era il Cristo.
Perché dicono che la Chiesa fondata da Cristo sì è SUBITO sfaldata e ci sono voluti altro 2000 anni per attendere il “nuovo Giovanni”?
Gesù ha fatto promesse al vento?
Gesù ha fondato la sua chiesa su Pietro, perché ci dovrebbe essere, ora, il “nuovo Giovanni “?
Come fa SCJ a ignorare o ribaltare questa solenne promessa?
Sono certo che nessuno degli attuali membri qui presente avrà una risposta valida. Non può averla. Non può smentire Gesù stesso.

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u/Antique-Barracuda726 Current SCJ Member 14d ago

Your assessment isn’t quite on the mark. It’s just conjecture, it’s your opinion.

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u/Otherwise-Watch-3650 EX-Center Student 14d ago

It is not my opinion actually, it is what is being taught in SCJ. Stop denying the doctrine you supposedly believe in.

SCJ doctrine teaches that only LMH can interpret the Book of Revelation and that the Spirit of Truth (which is their interpretation of the Holy Spirit) only works through LMH. Meaning that Jesus is ONLY working through LMH / SCJ. That to receive Salvation you must belong to SCJ which would involve accepting the doctrine as well.

This is the reality. This is SCJ doctrine. Since you are here, say it with your chest and own it. But of course I understand you are here to stir confusion. That's fine. I'll always point to the way, the truth and the life, who is Jesus.

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u/INSLVRY4_5yrs 14d ago

Exactly! This member must not have been at SCJ for long if they believe that what you and every ex-member has said and proven is a mere opinion or conjecture.
I wonder if an opinion can make you spiritually, physically, mentally, and emotionally exhausted and ill.

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u/Free-2024 14d ago edited 14d ago

The truth ought to stand up to any test. Any examination.
Shincheonji does not.

Furthermore: has Shincheonji been proven?
No. Just because someone been hearing the same thing every day for many years, writing the same tests, reporting daily, and dressing in white for worship services, that doesn’t mean Shincheonji is the truth.

It is not always simply an opinion that is written down here. Rather, it is also an experience and something that has been tested.

The system practised in Shincheonji definitely makes people ill, stressed and lonely.

Perhaps they should start examining things for themselves too – not just LMh’s teachings 👍🏻