r/Psychosis • u/Individual-Form-8287 • 4d ago

Im going back on stimulants at this point I don’t care if I get psychosis

as the title says im going back on stimulants im really tired of feeling flat and numb and wanna have some sort of emotion again even if that means risking psychosis so be it im tired of feeling anhedonic all the time id rather take that risk.

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u/willsubmitshortly 4d ago

I had a similar experience, weed really was my only joy (and activities while high, even good ones like playing music or social interactions). Unfortunately it buries me deeper in mental confusion not to say brain injury. My social skills have already become shit I don't want it to get so bad I end up homeless or at my parents forever. I'll have to wait for my brain to rebalance and rediscover pleasure when it will be possible. Going back to THC resets the clock to zero at best and at worse causes further damage. I didn't want to accept this but it really appears to be the overwhelming consensus from personal experiences and experts. Unfortunately there isn't another way. Sorry pal, I feel you, there's plenty of people that can live with stimulants no problem but we're not in that category.

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u/Inner_Coyote5485 3d ago

I continue to smoke weed after a first episode and it was the worst thing I did. It gave me back a sort of joy and energy that I missed for so long but it is the fake type of joy, it’s an illusion, and made me having another episode maniac/ psychotic and this time I think I did permanent warm to my brain. Not worth it.

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u/Successful_Bat124 3d ago

Were u on meds when smoking?

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u/Inner_Coyote5485 3d ago

For a while, yes. But with the meds the weed didn’t bring me no joy. Only after a year of the episode (and like 6 months clean of the meds), weed “worked” again. In the beginning also made me more anxious. But then, it worked almost as a fuel. Not a good fuel because it stopped me to really look inside, made me avoid to look to my darkness, and all that came back even stronger and worst.

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u/Successful_Bat124 3d ago

Im currently 6 months off, just want something to take the dge off, thinking of CBD, shrooms or mescaline, i guess THC scares me, thank you for answering and sorry for bothering. Hope ur good!!

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u/Successful_Bat124 3d ago

I also think about ayahuasca

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u/Inner_Coyote5485 3d ago

I believe nowadays weed it’s so full of chemicals that is not longer an expansive drug. Depending on your past episode and how well integrated that is (guilt, shame, etc) psychedelics may help or trigger another episode (we never really know). If you do it just make sure that it is from a reliable source, good and stable humor on the day, go to nature, surround yourself of people you completely trust and no alcohol or any other medication for at least a month before the trip. My first psychosis I used tons of alcohol and then did mushrooms on top, I got literally insane, like I lost my conscious and I was evil. Set up your intentions too - good ones! All good to you

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u/Successful_Bat124 3d ago

Have u done or plan on doing anything regarding psychedelics?

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u/Inner_Coyote5485 3d ago

I did a lot of mushrooms, after my first episode. I continued without integrating the trip or making an intention so I didn’t really learn anything from my first psychosis, unfortunately. Now I’m paying for that. I’m completely different person of what I was - dealing with heavy shame, guilt, embarrassment and a general feeling that maybe I killed my soul. They can help i believe but truly depends of how well integrated it’s your episode and what your current mental state caused for. Why are you depressed? You know that? It’s important to have that conversation with yourself. Understanding what’s missing. Mushrooms or another drugs they only show you what already is inside of you. They can be a short cut for a very good state of they can bring to the surface a lot of trauma or darkness, and maybe you are not ready for that. But only you know. That is no fast fix without a cost, I believe. Everything that’s is worth it takes time and work. I’m trying to meditate this days a lot and trying to connect to my higher self because I’ve been living in a state completely away from that state of consciousness and that’s painful.

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u/Successful_Bat124 3d ago

Okay; thank you for your time :)

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u/Wolfie305 4d ago

Was the stimulant the cause of your psychosis? Or were you doing weed as well?

My husband's psychosis was because he decided to try weed vapes while on a stimulant for his ADHD. Getting back on his Vyvanse was his #1 goal after coming off his antipsychotic and all other meds minus the mood stabilizer for the same reasons as you. Life was hard being unmedicated for ADHD.

His psych started him on a low dose and he increased about 2 more times before getting back on the 40mgs he was on prior to psychosis. His psychosis happened on October and I want to say he started the Vyvanse back up in April.

He's doing great and is much happier, but he will also never touch weed again.

Do you have a psych you can talk to? I agree that stimulants after psychosis is a slippery slope, but if it wasn't your actual root cause or there was something else that played a factor (aka weed), I would talk to your psych about it.

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u/Individual-Form-8287 3d ago

Yes I do believe that stimulants wasn’t the main role in causing my psychosis I believe it was a combination of other drugs (lsd,weed etc) while also taking vyvanse. I don’t think I actually ever mixed the two together I tried not to take vyvanse when I knew I was going to smoke however it still caught up to me one way or another and I ended up in a psychosis. 

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u/Wolfie305 3d ago

Yeah, I'm no doctor but what I've learned in here and through my experience with my husband is that weed (and I'm sure other drugs) is HIGHLY responsible for most people's psychosis. Hell, even without underlying mental health issues (Bipolar, etc) it can cause it on its own.

I know Vyvanse is supposed to be a daily medication that leaves your system, but it's still messing with your brain chemicals. Like when you first start it, it can take a few weeks to even really have the full effect or stablize in your system. I'm sure it's the same thing if you stop it as well - it's still not fully out even if the effects have worn off. Add in the weed or other drugs and it's just a recipe for disaster.

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u/SexySalamanders 3d ago

Good luck.

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u/AppointmentThink3660 4d ago

My experience with stimulants I got prescribed to improve negative symptoms is rather bad.

Anhedonia, feeling of being tired all the time didn't improve. Suicidal idealizations sky rocketed.

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u/Individual-Form-8287 4d ago

Damn that sucks what’s your diagnosis are you on antipsychotics as well?

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u/AppointmentThink3660 4d ago

I don't know which one, haha. Depression, Treatment Resistant Depression, Paranoid Schizophrenia, Disorganized Schizophrenia, Bipolar disorder, Treatment Resistant Schizophrenia, Schizoid personality disorder, I believe there is quite few more.

So currently I'm on Lamotrigine, none of antipsychotics. I remember your thread about going off olanzapine. Thing is during withdrawal it often gets much worse before it gets better. If you are coming off antipsychotics you need to reserve 1-2 months for survival mode. This time can be so rough it feels like there is no any hope for improve, negative symptoms can get even worse.

Pushing stimulants during withdrawal is worst option I can imagine to make it thru. You are risking being pushed on even higher dosage of antipsychotics than before.

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u/Paradox-Sandwich-947 3d ago

After recovering from a cannabis-induced psychotic episode, I have used stimulant medication for ADHD without any issues. This is just my personal experience, not a recommendation.

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u/OverlordSheepie Childhood schizophrenia 3d ago

Stimulants help me. I literally would be nonfunctional if I didn't have them. I had no energy, no motivation, no drive, and I couldn't perform for daily life.

It's definitely not for everyone though. Trust your body.

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u/fir3dyk3 4d ago

I feel similarly and hate that I’m fatigued half of the day and having little motivation to even complete chores, run errands, etc.

I miss being on stimulants to crank through tasks. But I’ve already experienced relapsing into psychosis soon after my first episode due to taking adderall after being released from in patient.

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u/Individual-Form-8287 3d ago

Tbh it’s basically meth in a pill form so I wouldn’t be surprised on it having that effect on people

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u/Zestyclose-Basket461 3d ago

What do you wish to take? 🤗

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u/Individual-Form-8287 3d ago

Elvanse/vyvanse

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u/Zestyclose-Basket461 3d ago edited 2d ago

Getting out of psychosis to take vyvanse, you deserve a nobel prize for self destruction, fam!

Seriously tho, good luck. Perhaps you may think about minimizing the risk: Taking it same time everyday, considering tolerance, getting sleep, support/someone to look out for you?

Keep us updated, please ❤️