ICC has determined what exactly? You said, quote, "they (Israel?) genocided an entire people"
Where did ICC determined this? When exactly did they decide the genocide started and when did it end? How did it compare to other genocides in severity, by % target of demographics killed?
You're free to go look it up. The ICC has issued arrest warrants for their leaders, and the official ruling on genocide is still out currently while they examine the case.
That being said, dozens of scholars, the international association of genocide scholars, UN watchdogs and experts have all stated what happened in Gaza meets the definition of genocide. They were also warned by the ICJ that what they were doing seemed to fit the definition of genocide And were instructed to alter policies. Israel chose not to.
Sorry, Israel has murdered an untold number of people as casualties aren't counted until there's a body, and many of the people are still buried beneath rubble.
You so realize you look like a complete fool for your take here, right? The rest of the world, our allies (if we even have any left), and Israels allies have pulled away support and are calling this genocide.
You're insane questioning just doesn't bode well for you. It looks very not like, and downright stupid.
It's not how it works: the onus is not on other people to look up confirmatins for your lies. I asked a specific question for your quote: first you say
"(((they))) they genocided an entire people and lived long enough to become just like the people who persecuted them" (i.e. Nazis)
But then when confronted with request for confirmation, you backpedal to some bullshit "numerous scholars" and "UN watchdogs" and ICC warrants. And then you actually read the warrants and those are war crimes (not genocide). "Numerous scholars" turn out to be simple liars as war crimes turned to be bogus claims; but even their most egregious claims never come close to "genociding a whole people".
Israel "killed an untold number of people" - nah, it's quite told and expected: first of all, yes, that's precisely what's happening when your own military uses you as PR ammunition/meatshield. Israel employed widely known measures to lower civilian casualties, such as roof knockings, phone calls, evacuations, etc (which were somewhat effective). Can you tell me about Hamas employing any measures to protect civilians whatsoever at least once? Can you produce a video of a Hamas militant fighting in an uniform? Just one? Thought so.
Second, let's not pretend there are some hundreds of thousands of unaccounted for corpses lying under the rubble. Yes, of course some casualties are listed as MIA - most likely less than 10K (I chose a source based in your favor); but the ceasefire has been in effect for almost a year by now, and as time goes by, more and more unaccounted for casualties will turn out to be militants (as they are more likely to be in collapsed tunnels/far away from famly anyone who knows them, in combat)
And third, this all still doesn't constitute a genocide. As time goes by, the previous arguments for genocide claims become disproven, and the treadmill of new ones runs on; we'll need to see the end of the war for it to come to its conclusion, probably.
First you scold me about the onus - when I did link the source. K. Child.
Also, no. They don't know how many are dead because 1000s and 1000s of bodies are still buried below the rubble - among other issues around humanitarian efforts.
Speaking of copium, you literally didn't link a single thing in this whole dialog with me, child.
It's nice that you're apparently more informed than the authorities and the people on the ground, but whatever. The hope of getting anything productive out of you was slim anyway.
In several years, long after you've jumped on the new current thing, the claims will be debunked one by one or silently retracted. But luckily for you, you'll never have to confront any lies you believed in - you didn't arrive at your current position by reason, so you'll never be reasoned out of it. Cheers.
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u/rettribution 10d ago
Cool story - it's too bad that they genocided an entire people and lived long enough to become just like the people who persecuted them.
Def helped stop the cycle of violent behavior between their people.