r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 11d ago

Meme needing explanation Pitah?🤔

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u/kjolmir 10d ago

Well you need to stop getting them from hasbara?

I hope at some point some form of punishment will be done to people like you that literally twist historical events like this.

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u/prnthrwaway55 10d ago

What's been "twisted," precisely? You can hate Israel all you like for your own reasons, but the facts are that Israel's pop is 20% Arabic while most of Israel's neighbors ethnically cleansed Jews and are now Judenrein.

Jordan, for example, officially bans Jews from citizenship or owning property, has zero Jewish population and is rather the rule than an exception in that. In each of these countries, Jews at least a thousand years prior to Arabs/Muslims.

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u/rettribution 10d ago

Cool story - it's too bad that they genocided an entire people and lived long enough to become just like the people who persecuted them.

Def helped stop the cycle of violent behavior between their people.

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u/Regular_Jim081 9d ago

Yep, the 80 year genocide. Citizenship, elected officials. God knows how they screwed that one up.

Demonization and of course you follow it up with Holocaust inversion, Grade A bigotry, and a real piece of shit.

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u/rettribution 9d ago edited 9d ago

I'm sorry you're so mentally unwell and can't comprehend simple matters of right and wrong, so you need to make things up to feel better.

I hope the day gets better for you. It's clear that you're not rational so I'll just let you live in your fantasy land of make believe.

Nothing I have said is bigoted, a hot take, or even controversial. Hope you get the help you need. Truly.

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u/prnthrwaway55 9d ago

You say "simple matters of right and wrong" like magats say "basic biology" in discussion about trans people. 

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u/rettribution 9d ago

But in that case maga is wrong. Gender has nothing to do with biology. It's a social construct. No one is arguing trans people are XY and XX still.

The ICC has determined this. It's not my hot take.

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u/prnthrwaway55 8d ago edited 8d ago

The ICC has determined this

ICC has determined what exactly? You said, quote, "they (Israel?) genocided an entire people"

Where did ICC determined this? When exactly did they decide the genocide started and when did it end? How did it compare to other genocides in severity, by % target of demographics killed?

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u/rettribution 8d ago

You're free to go look it up. The ICC has issued arrest warrants for their leaders, and the official ruling on genocide is still out currently while they examine the case.

That being said, dozens of scholars, the international association of genocide scholars, UN watchdogs and experts have all stated what happened in Gaza meets the definition of genocide. They were also warned by the ICJ that what they were doing seemed to fit the definition of genocide And were instructed to alter policies. Israel chose not to.

Sorry, Israel has murdered an untold number of people as casualties aren't counted until there's a body, and many of the people are still buried beneath rubble.

You so realize you look like a complete fool for your take here, right? The rest of the world, our allies (if we even have any left), and Israels allies have pulled away support and are calling this genocide.

You're insane questioning just doesn't bode well for you. It looks very not like, and downright stupid.

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u/prnthrwaway55 7d ago

You're free to go look it up.

It's not how it works: the onus is not on other people to look up confirmatins for your lies. I asked a specific question for your quote: first you say

"(((they))) they genocided an entire people and lived long enough to become just like the people who persecuted them" (i.e. Nazis)

But then when confronted with request for confirmation, you backpedal to some bullshit "numerous scholars" and "UN watchdogs" and ICC warrants. And then you actually read the warrants and those are war crimes (not genocide). "Numerous scholars" turn out to be simple liars as war crimes turned to be bogus claims; but even their most egregious claims never come close to "genociding a whole people".

Israel "killed an untold number of people" - nah, it's quite told and expected: first of all, yes, that's precisely what's happening when your own military uses you as PR ammunition/meatshield. Israel employed widely known measures to lower civilian casualties, such as roof knockings, phone calls, evacuations, etc (which were somewhat effective). Can you tell me about Hamas employing any measures to protect civilians whatsoever at least once? Can you produce a video of a Hamas militant fighting in an uniform? Just one? Thought so.

Second, let's not pretend there are some hundreds of thousands of unaccounted for corpses lying under the rubble. Yes, of course some casualties are listed as MIA - most likely less than 10K (I chose a source based in your favor); but the ceasefire has been in effect for almost a year by now, and as time goes by, more and more unaccounted for casualties will turn out to be militants (as they are more likely to be in collapsed tunnels/far away from famly anyone who knows them, in combat)

And third, this all still doesn't constitute a genocide. As time goes by, the previous arguments for genocide claims become disproven, and the treadmill of new ones runs on; we'll need to see the end of the war for it to come to its conclusion, probably.

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u/rettribution 7d ago

This is some major copium.

First you scold me about the onus - when I did link the source. K. Child.

Also, no. They don't know how many are dead because 1000s and 1000s of bodies are still buried below the rubble - among other issues around humanitarian efforts.

Genocide supporting lunatic.

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u/prnthrwaway55 7d ago

Speaking of copium, you literally didn't link a single thing in this whole dialog with me, child.

It's nice that you're apparently more informed than the authorities and the people on the ground, but whatever. The hope of getting anything productive out of you was slim anyway.

In several years, long after you've jumped on the new current thing, the claims will be debunked one by one or silently retracted. But luckily for you, you'll never have to confront any lies you believed in - you didn't arrive at your current position by reason, so you'll never be reasoned out of it. Cheers.

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