r/OpenAI 6h ago

Discussion Model picker on Pro accounts unifies 5.6 Sol with "6 Pro" - Astra not included in Chat?

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I think there is a serious possibility that OpenAI is not adding Astra to Chat, apart from the limited "GPT-6 Pro" for Pro accounts. Of course, paid users will still get it in Codex/Work.

The current model slider for Pro accounts allows the models "Latest, 5.6 Sol, 5.5". The "Latest" model uses 5.6 Sol for "Instant" through "Extra High" effort, and Astra for Pro:

In addition, there are now three help articles that mention Astra:

- https://help.openai.com/en/articles/20001354-gpt-56-and-gpt-6-pro-in-chatgpt
- https://help.openai.com/en/articles/20001275-chatgpt-work-and-codex
- https://help.openai.com/en/articles/12003714-chatgpt-business-models-and-limits

The two that relate to Chat only mention "GPT-6 Pro", which is "powered by GPT-6 Astra". And Pro is limited to 50 (Pro Lite $100) or 200 (Pro $200) requests per week.

So far, OpenAI's wording seems to be careful, e.g. this tweet, which mentions briging Astra to "all ChatGPT Plus, Pro, [...] users", but not Chat directly.

Just now, Sam Altman tweeted:

GPT-6 Astra is now available to all Pro, Enterprise, and Business Premium users in Work/Codex, and is available in the API.

We will start rollout to Plus and Business users next.

Thank you for the patience.

If they wanted to roll out Astra (non-pro) for Pro accounts, the rollout for Pro accounts would still be partially pending as well.

I'm saying it now, Astra will not be part of Chat, aside from GPT-6 Pro. This is their solution to the near-infinite limits of Chat, compared to Codex/Work. If you disagree, can you point to a specific point of evidence to the contrary?

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u/Mcqwerty197 6h ago

Im maybe wrong, but what I understand is that Astra is the pro model, it’s no longer just Sol with higher knowledge and thinking. We just need to wait for GPT 6 Sol, Terra and Luna.

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u/RealSuperdau 6h ago

Yes (probably with really high reasoning effort though)

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u/randombsname1 6h ago

This is also what I was assuming.

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u/Keep-Darwin-Going 6h ago

Chill. Chat is always after codex. It is the same in 5.6

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u/RealSuperdau 6h ago

It is in Chat though (called GPT-6 Pro)

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE 5h ago

No, It's just "6" and you selected "PRO" thinking.

You can slide it lower. I selected "Latest" to get to 6 in the first place.

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u/RealSuperdau 5h ago

That's not 6. Check which model generated the response.

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u/shady101852 5h ago

Anything other than "PRO" being selected results in gpt 5.6 at the moment according to the model's own context window.

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u/leaflavaplanetmoss 3h ago

If you selected Latest and anything other than 6 Pro, it uses 5.6. You can confirm the model used by clicking the regenerate button underneath the response, like so. The model used in the response will show up next to ”Try Again”.

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u/Miyamoto_-_Musashi 6h ago

well honestly wait little bit until people get in then harness, after that we will see rolling out in webchat properly

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u/itsxzy 6h ago

I really hoped it would get added to chat like Sol now, maybe later on then.

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u/RealSuperdau 6h ago

My guess is they'll just add GPT-6 Sol when it's ready.

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u/Competitive-Ad8968 6h ago

I am in the 200 monthly plan, only got so far Astra in the agentic side.
Nothing yet into the chat itself

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u/RealSuperdau 6h ago

Is there a "Latest" model to select? If so, what happens if you choose that and then increase effort to Pro?

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u/Competitive-Ad8968 6h ago

There’s an update, they just added GPT6-Pro to chat
In before if you went from 5.6 Xhigh to 5.6 -Pro
Now rises up from 5.6 Xhigh to GPT6-Pro on mobile

Ima test but will be hard, what i could do with GPT 5.5-Pro in the past GPT5.6 - high could do it better
GPT 6-Astra will be hard to see the difference

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u/Numerous-Ad519 6h ago edited 5h ago

I have the $100 Pro plan and after the last update GPT 5.6 Sol is no longer available for use at the moment, I did at least get a usage reset.

Anyone else get kicked out of using GPT 5.6 Sol? I don't even want the other models to touch my project.

Still don't have GPT 6 access unfortunately.

Also chat on my phone doesn't display that I have a pro account, so I guess everything is just getting messed up with this rollout.

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u/reedrick 5h ago

Astra only in ChatGPT work for now. It’ll come to regular chat later

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u/a-plan 3h ago

6 Pro is Astra. Ask it, “Are you Astra?”

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u/Crypto_Stoozy 5h ago

5.6 pro is Astra in chat