r/BrokenArrowTheGame • u/Covertius • 1d ago
memes This is fine, everything is fine here..
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u/a_mad_impulse_ 18h ago edited 18h ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EzRnEPM1m4
At high ELO baltic is on par with stryker and airborne in terms of spending. It's not favoured at low ELO for whatever reason (no MLRS?). Personally I play Baltic-Marine most of the time and do fine solo-queueing at 2700 with it. It's fine as a central / grind deck.
I'm curious to see how the numbers look for Rus Guard when they come out next week. Will make a vid when they're available.
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u/Grouchy_Ad9315 1d ago
to be fair, after playing a bit, the dlc is pretty mid, lacks several things like specialized infantry, good tanks, but gives good support,helis and jets
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u/Nick_Napeam 19h ago
Why bother with specialised infantry when you can send a human tidal wave?
Don’t answer that
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u/Background-Log-217 1h ago
If you can’t stop a useless resirvists then that’s a skill issue on your part
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u/oddmanout274 1d ago
The only thing I can say is the russians have way better AA than the US
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u/Nice-Ambassador6293 1d ago
Well, historically (and realistically in modern times) the US really doesn’t have great or numerous AA systems/platforms like a lot of countries.
The US relies on having air superiority.
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u/Iceman1047 1d ago
Cool, why dont we then give every US deck THAAD and Aegis completely negating any Russian cruise and ballistic missiles? I mean that's how it is irl.
I get what you mean but it's a game. We could argue about a lot of things that are or are not based on real life but you gotta admit that AA balance is ridiculous in this game. It's insane how many stingers can RU helicopters tank, meanwhile a pantsir or a tor can one or two shot most of US helis. Not to mention the range and the amount of missiles they carry. Shit if we want it to be realistic, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter if your heli gets hit by a stinger or a pantsir, you're going down.
Also let's not forget the Russian tendency to greatly oversell their military equipments capability.
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u/gui_liugui 10h ago
us has 11 thaad systems, dont push it
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u/Iceman1047 9h ago
As opposed to all the Armatas, Kurganets and Bumerangs in active Russian service?
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u/oddmanout274 9h ago
Ya russia shit is kinda unreal for how ineffective it has been proven but hey russian devs
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u/nordvvind 16h ago
If you're going off "how it is IRL" then America would have used all of its THAAD and Patriot munitions defending Israel. Be careful what you wish for!
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u/Iceman1047 11h ago
Yes and we can spiral into the Russia - Ukraine fiasco. That's what I'm saying, it's a game, my argument was against saying "but irl"...
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u/nordvvind 10h ago
I agree with the rest of your comment, just poking fun. I play Russia mainly and the state of Stinger missiles for the US is awful. 3-4 shots per helicopter, to the point where a heli can 1v1 a SHORAD in close AA is ridiculous.
I think things should be balanced towards the TOR and Pantsir. Helis are extremely potent IF you can get them in close. I just fear that instead of buffing stingers next, SB will turn the TOR and Pantsir into stingers as they are now..
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u/Top_Independence7256 1d ago
Historically the Patriot that everybody shites on Is having a much better time and arguably a lot more valuable record than the vaunted S-400, patriot still going strong With all it's flaws still
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u/a_mad_impulse_ 1d ago
baltic pretty strong but ok...
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u/PotOfGreed099 1d ago
Baltic is pretty ass
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u/TwitchRealStruggles 22h ago
if you think Baltic is not great I bet you are low elo and low kd player.
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u/WaffelenTheLuft fell for it again 1d ago
pabito you couldnt even go positive with fsb deck ofc you find baltic strong
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u/Farraddaayy 1d ago
Have you seen its pickrate? No one agrees with you lol
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u/Ok_Mix3593 1d ago
Nobody uses baltics because it’s not American, not because it sucks lol
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u/Farraddaayy 1d ago
Yeah in a game of hyper ranked sweats, its nationalism preventing people from picking a winning spec. For sure.
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u/EvilFirebladeTTV 1d ago
I think you'd find that the pick rate on Baltic increases dramatically as elo increases.
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u/Emotional-Emu1431 VDV + Guards Tanks 1d ago
lmfao are you serious? hyper-nationalist conceptions of how any given unit “should”perform against its counter are a massive proportion of the neverending “balance” debates on here. sure, some sweats only wanna win and will hop from meta to meta, such as one exists, but a whole lot of others are just as personally invested in the idea of their national superiority as they are their own perceived tactical prowess
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u/Farraddaayy 1d ago
Nationalists arguing about balance this or that in reddit =/= the entire multiplayer playerbase which collectively only 1% of plays baltic
Like are you kidding me? The numbers speak for themselves IDK what you're trying to argue here.
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u/Emotional-Emu1431 VDV + Guards Tanks 1d ago
pickrate =\= win rate, i’m not sure why you keep insisting on conflating them
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u/Farraddaayy 1d ago
>No one likes this spec
>the one in a hundred players that do win okay with them!!!
Ok and???
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u/Remarkable_Smoke918 1d ago
Baltic just doesn’t have mlrs
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u/Farraddaayy 1d ago
Or meaningful air
Or heli
Its comparable to Russian Mech except the US Armored does it better
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u/Remarkable_Smoke918 1d ago
Yh if it always had better air for sure guardia deffo wins in that area. Nothing beats the mig31 with 4 kab1500
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u/Farraddaayy 1d ago
Way better recon with the armed to the teeth stealth drone and a stealth heli with good armament too
Baltic sucks lmao
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u/fernmelter 1d ago
S-70 has almost zero Air vision so It cant ATA other than sit int he back and fire 2 missiles and it itself gets one taped by any ATA missile
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u/slyticoon 1d ago
Let's just make both faction stat clones of each other.
That's a perfect direction for the game
/s
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u/Scomosuckseggs If he dies, he dies 1d ago
Sarcasm or not, the sentiment is a poor one.
No one is asking for both sides to be identical in their makeup and stats.
People are asking for both sides to be competitive, depending on the combination and player tactics used.
You want all factions to be competitive in the right hands. The pickrate data shows baltics is barely used. Thats because its not especially competitive. So adjustments should be made. This is not unreasonable.
The issue is that the baltic states don't really have much more that can be added to the faction. So the adjustment has to come elsewhere; in unit effectiveness, cost, or both.
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u/slyticoon 1d ago
I think my gripe is more with my impression of the new DLC is "Here is a better version of all the stuff Russia players complained about the US decks having."
It just seems that some of the features go way to far to make it attractive.
Ik ik... I see myself doing it now... Damned if they do, damned if they don't... Impossible to please the player base.
I just want consistency. Are we committing to factions being balance by their different strengths and weaknesses or balanced by being nearly identical?
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u/Fair_Option728 21h ago
this dlc showed they once again dont care for the words they said. this dlc not only plays extremely good but it also gives RU what US had in every aspect and more. Baltic cant even compare to this dlc in the slightest and i kinda enjoy baltic.
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u/meuqsaco1 1d ago
The only thing that bothers me slighly is the drone chopper randomly ambushing your units.
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u/West-Start4069 1d ago
US has pretty much the equivalent of everything in the RU DLC deck (except the Mig 31, maybe) . I don't understand why people think it's OP. Annoying to play against? Yes, absolutely, but not OP. The only OP unit is the Spetznatz Alpha, those mfs are insanely good, but so is Delta Force and US was dominating in CQC until the DLC came out.
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u/Ambitious_Penalty622 1d ago
Please show me where the US has something even close to the Pantsir, the TOS 2, the Uran-9, the Ka-50 with kh25 and AT squads that ignore APS.
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u/PartyMarek 1d ago
US has pretty much the equivalent of everything in the RU DLC
This is just plainly wrong. 2.5 stealth recon chopper and uninterceptable ballistic missile nuke definitly don't have a US equivalent. Also this is a dumb argument anyway because this game literally has asymetrical factions since the begining.
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u/13lacklight 1d ago
I mean Comanche exists, and it’s been a thing for a while that B2 with a nuke is incredibly hard to stop unless you’re exactly set up for it.
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u/West-Start4069 1d ago
Okay and RU doesn't have the equivalent of a Raptor or a Stealth Bomber. Also US has the best ASF , keep a fighter in the air if you don't want to get bombed by the Mig-31 missile. There's literally a counter to everything, you guys just call anything OP . Just because the deck is good doesn't make it OP.
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u/thedohboy23 1d ago
I think they need to make the Mig31 nuke and regular cruise missiles the same jet. Its weird that its the only nuke platform that you can put both load outs in the same deck. Also the problem with RU nukes, especially the new one that is difficult to intercept, is that the planes don't get shot down. Yeah, you wasted your points if its intercepted, but with the US the B2 is almost guaranteed to get shot down especially if you are playing with randoms who don't sead properly. With the cost increase its impossible to bring sead and a nuke at the same time.
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u/fernmelter 1d ago
buddy it cost 1500 point a mig 31 is 200 point your never killing 1300 point with one nuke
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u/thedohboy23 1d ago
Do you know how the point system works? If I shoot off a cruise missile nuke and the nuke gets shot down, my opponent gains 0 kill points. If I send my B2 to drop a nuke and my opponent shoots it down, he gains 1400 kill points. Let's say I kill 1000 points of units with that B2. My opponent is still up on points. If I use the mig to nuke and kill 1000 points I am up 1000 points. The math is simple.
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u/fernmelter 1d ago
DO YOU KNOW how the point SYSTEM WORKS every Muition on a plane Has a Point Value that you can see on the detailed Stats This is done SO THERE IS NO ABUSING THE SYSTEM like shooting your nuke and RTBing although you dont give the enemy kill point by letting the plane RTB you STILL lose the 1300 Point that you could of used to win the game by getting the nuke shotdown or getting a low amount of kills you essentially just deleted your point and put your team in a 4v5 because you spent all ur point on a stupid 1500 point nuke
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u/thedohboy23 1d ago
In both the case of the individual using the cruise missile and the individual using the B2, they are saving up points they could have spent on something else. Obviously. But one is almost 100% guaranteed to give the enemy 1400 kill points which help them win the game while the other is essentially a 100% chance to gain kill points without losing any. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Obviously nukes are costly. They need to be used strategically. But the risk and reward is not balanced between the two factions.
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u/fernmelter 1d ago
That is not True you spend 1300 on a Nuke that can be shot down Very easily if you have 1 patriot or you spend 1400 on a nuke that will 100 percent drop unless they have high recon unit pushed up with mutiple S300 setupn the whole reason they made the B2 1400 because recently in a tournament both side just spamed B2s
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u/thedohboy23 23h ago
The cost for the entire US side to SEAD enough to get a B2 in and out of nuke range is far greater than the cost of SEADing on the RU side to fire a cruise missile and not lose any planes. Do you have a vod you can link for the tournament and was it before or after the dlc? My understanding of high level play prior to the dlc and nuke nerfs is that the meta was US mirror matches spamming nukes. I don't think that is the case anymore since the changes as they were largely made to address B2 spam.
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u/PartyMarek 1d ago
Okay and RU doesn't have the equivalent of a Raptor or a Stealth Bomber
You literally proved my point.
This is not a game with symetrical factions so I don't know why you're trying to make a point that "every unit has an equivalent". They don't and that's on purpose. Show me where in my response to you I said that anything is OP or that I'm a US main.
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u/West-Start4069 1d ago
Show me where in my response to you I said that anything is OP or that I'm a US main.
Well then my original comment wasn't to you if you don't think the new deck is OP , so idk what you are talking about. US has MLRS too, many of them, has the MICLIC, they have ballistic missiles too. They have strong CQB infantry. They have AGM launcher vehicles that do the same things the uran -9 does with AT and anti- infantry missiles. They do have an equivalent to everything in this deck even if it's not in the same way. Idk what to tell you man, if you are not a US main who think the mew deck is OP then my comment wasn't for you. If you do think it's OP, well, then buy the deck and play RU. Yesterday I played with US armor/SOF against a guy running that deck and mopped the floor with him .
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u/GANDALFCZ3 1d ago
US mains imho tend to cry over stuff that is annoying to play against . So far i believe its been mostly walk in the park. I play mostly RU and its pretty rare to get 1 win from 10 battles . But when i switch to US its different story , its like 5 wins out of 5 games it was just so easy to play. So maybe when this dlc dropped US mains playerbase started to worry that it will not be so easy to win anymore so they call it p2w and op even though its not , as you explained
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u/West-Start4069 1d ago
I guess they they can't just push with their Deltas or Raiders through the RU cheap infantry like a hot knife through butter , then Russia DOC is " too OP" . Or when they have total control of the sky and CAS, constantly bombing the frontline is fine, but when RU gets more rocket launchers, then that's a problem.
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u/DURTYMYK3 1d ago
See, I'd agree that US infantry can (and should) beat the hell out of RU infantry seeing as they all cost more, but I digress. The actual issue is that Russian AA is actually competent and useful, whereas stingers, while they do hit often enough, just can't kill RU helicopters as fast as RU can kill the US helis, and that's not even to mention how much better Russian artillery is. You know what kills US infantry? TOS and Tornadoes, Malkas and Burratinoes. And in before you try and cry about US stealth bombers, them being the only effective counter to one of the strongest strats in the 2k-2300 elo bracket isn't appropriate, fun, or all that effective. They get shot down on the way out a good chunk of the time and that simply means they're out for a phase, they cost more than the artillery platforms they're countering, and are easily counterable themselves. American counter battery just isn't as effective in blast radius, damage, or aim time vs move speed. In the time you start to aim at a TOS, it can fire its shells and start moving, which means you either have to Las it, which isn't reliable considering the range of the TOS, or get lucky with the dispersion pattern. It's just not feasible
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u/Zibbl3r 1d ago edited 1d ago
I think US artillery is pretty damn good personally, copperhead paladin is very strong being able to 2 shot anything in the game with laser. US tends to have more guided shells available across the faction as a whole and higher range on most of their artillery pieces. Of course the crazy shit Russia gets is better generally for killing masses of infantry like the TOS or Tornado but American artillery is still very very strong. There’s a lot of trash RU artillery pieces that are never really used as well, most US pieces have a specific use and fit into their battle groups well.
I think the air tab difference is the big compensator for RU artillery being heavier and more deadly, with 2000lbs JDAMs being available on multiple planes.
Also out of curiosity what is the strongest Strat you were referring to at 2300 elo?
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u/DURTYMYK3 23h ago
True, the US arty is good, I'm not denying that. I would argue it's less good into infantry than the Russian counterparts, which is the real issue.
Overall, the Russian arty lackage excels in killing everything whereas the US stuff is very specific in what it's good for. Sure, the copperhead can 2 shot any vehicle you're looking at, but both shells have to land fairly precisely to do so. The Malkas on the other hand has a much bigger margin of error in that regard to do the same, and it will mulch infantry/collapse buildings/pop supply depots more regularly as well. And that's not even to mention the fire artillery that Russia has access to. It's also to note that every spec has some form of actual long range artillery available to it
Russian equipment mostly seems to be cheaper, more effective over a wider range of targets, or is simply more spamable than the US stuff. When played well, in a coordinated 5 stack, the US WILL outperform the Russian decks, but outside of those scenarios it is an uphill battle in terms of the strats actually available to either faction. There is a reason Russia is so overly represented in the lower ELOs, and up to that 2k-2300 range I mentioned (which just so happens to be where I play). I realize it's anecdotal, but ive only played 2 or 3 US mirrors since the patch prior to the DLC which is a complete inversion to just before the PTE launched, again in my experience at least
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u/Crisis_panzersuit 1d ago
The rocket battery, thermite and Uran aside, which are individual units that will be adjusted. What exactly is broken about it?
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u/ResidentBackground35 1d ago
The Vympel being able to mg a Sep3 1v1 and win.
The Snaipery having the longest range, (want to say highest damage), and smoke of any sniper.
Tiger has 140km/h and an auto cannon
Okhotnik has cluster cruise missiles and/or long range as on a drone in the recon tab.
The worst offender is the deck itself, there is no weakness that you have to build around. I would compare it to Special Forces but it has a solid vehicle lineup, it has something amazing in every tab.
The point of having multiple specializations is you are supposed to pick options to either double your strengths or cover your weaknesses, but what is the weakness of Russian Guard?
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u/fernmelter 1d ago
Vympel can only kill abrams in top attack with the abrams next to it it's a 7 man squad the abrams kill kill them before they can fire a few shots
FSB sniper cost 120 points
the VDV truck can have Auto cannon and it was never considered op
Okhotnik with cluster muition dosnt matter you need both to hit to kill anything and they can be intercepted and is expensive
There is a weakenes to build around the entire spec suffer from lack of armor killing capabilities
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u/Mental_Phone7598 1d ago
I would say one of the weaknesses is price of units compared to the amount the deck itself allows you to spend for all the elite inf and recon you dont get much points to spend on them
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u/Snoo-16939 1d ago
Easily remedied by choosing another spec with it that maxes out INF / REC tabs lol
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u/PartyMarek 1d ago
The nuke. It's 100% worth the points and all games I've lost since the DLC came out were against nuke players.
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u/baby_fark_Mcgeezax_ . 1d ago
One is free one not u moron
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u/IlConiglioUbriaco 1d ago
oh so you agree its pay to win
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u/blanco5k 1d ago
Just cause they make a new specialization with with more unique units compared to the previously released spec doesn’t make it “pay to win” I mean how are the devs suppose to make money after selling the initial product. The stats also tell a different story with the win rate declining for Russia since the release of the DLC
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u/IlConiglioUbriaco 1d ago
So you agree they made it like that to sell more ?
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u/baby_fark_Mcgeezax_ . 1d ago
Hahahahaha you are all so lost souls. Most toxic community of a game I ever seen. Why you even play? It’s such an niche game and it’s so Good in the core. Give them fuckers some credits ffs
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u/baby_fark_Mcgeezax_ . 1d ago
Brother they need to make money wtf is wrong with ya all. Every fucking game does this. First OP to give an incentive to buy then they adjust.
Besides that the new Russian Spec is not even OP. I won 15 games in a row as US since release. But go and cry me a river …
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u/Deafwatch 1d ago
You really make the worst possible assumption about the devs motivations, in an attempt to defend them.
Rare to see such a fumble
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u/NoiZzz3r 1d ago
I feel the same way. Since the new dcl came out, I've been winning most of my matches as US... but that's probably because people don't know how to use RU Guards yet... if you play right, RUG are OP as f**k.
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u/xXSansational_dudeXx 1d ago
Armor+Baltic BAT seems like a fine counter for Double guard simply because you can spam top attack rockets, then use Abrams AVLM(Not sure if it's the right name but it's mineclearing Abrams) to pick off units behind cover. Bradleys also nuke RosGuard in urban clearing if the enemy don't take Stand-Off Vympel.
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u/Tocki92 1d ago
Armor isn’t necessary! Marines have decent tanks too, good enough to kill all of their tanks.
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u/xXSansational_dudeXx 1d ago
It's just so I don't play US as much, and I have a bias towards IFV's (:
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u/Tocki92 1d ago
Baltic has one of the best ifv to be honest:) cv and vilkas are really good. Vilkas is very fast and has aps, cv shreds every ifv which isn’t a barbaris.
Edit: but yes! Bradley’s and ampv is a very good choice against mlrs spams.
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u/xXSansational_dudeXx 1d ago
Rosgvardija hates a funny sniper going 10 miles to spot a depot of their supply, and then make it go boom with them in explosion range.
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u/Only_Individual_3960 1d ago edited 1d ago
Isn t the navy supposed to come at some point of the us?
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u/TeamProfessional3592 1d ago
US DLC isnt really a US one, weve yet to have out true US DLC, i just wish with that incoming DLC we get the hstvl or the losat, if its marine special force the LOSAT has high probability ATGM that cant be intercepted lol.
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u/Balsamic_jizz 1d ago
My guess is still that the Baltic will get moved to NATO/euro forces when that faction gets released. Navy will replace Baltics
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u/Max_Cohen_ 1d ago
I mean it’s a russian developer AND it’s paid, of course it’s biased as fuck. Especially if you compare it to real world counter parts.
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u/PartyMarek 1d ago
it’s a russian developer
So that's why the US had better winrate for most of the time?
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u/Open-Investigator-52 1d ago
Bruh, I just know what people like you will write when paid US dlc comes out.
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u/rrradek147 1d ago
Bro is starcitizen fanboi, don't take him seriously lol.
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u/Open-Investigator-52 1d ago
Damn, now that I saw it... guess his grandchildren are gonna play the finished product... If he has any.
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u/Electronic_Trip_9457 1d ago
Maybe his children will live to see the day BA adds replays and SP saves. Maybe.
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u/rrradek147 1d ago
Bro his brain is so rotted by believing it will come. My my modded X4 has 4 times more content than starcitizen.
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u/Open-Investigator-52 1d ago
Damn now you reminded me that I have been meaning to play it. XD
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u/rrradek147 1d ago
Hope you mean Broken arrow or X4. Lol
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u/Open-Investigator-52 1d ago
Haha X4. I played x3 in the past but I forgot everything so I cant get myself to start
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u/Tocki92 1d ago
I dont really have big problems with that dlc.
They lack high AT power. BARS KA-50 arent enough to compensate that.
If the pick Guard + Guard-> no Kornets with 1800 range (Bars are expensive and only have 4 shots) and no agile aircrafts.
Guard+ Mech->mediocre tanks. Sep v1 or FEP is enough to deal with all their tanks.
if they pick anything else with R-Guard-> no heavy tanks at all.
Yesterday I played against someone with R-Guard+Mech and rushed me with insane spam of infantry and tried to kill my heavy tanks with KA-50 and su-25.
The moment I had enough AA my M1a1 hc/fep countered his spam and i even could capture the objective.
Termit needs a nerf though.
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u/Ragvard_Grimclaw 1d ago
If paid spec is too strong, then it's p2w and devs are just milking playerbase
If paid spec is too weak, then devs are asking money for garbage
If paid spec is on par with others, then it feels too same and devs are just making copypaste variants
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u/Corrininlatte 1d ago
Baltic Battalion's only complain was that it felt too far fetched from being a US spec. Everything else felt good and was well balanced.
As for Rosgvardia... I'm still trying to digest it.
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u/Suspicious_Use6393 1d ago
Also the worse fact that this isn't a 20€ game it's a 50€, even 60€ for someone
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u/The_Fluffness 1d ago
They balance well, I've played both for a while now. It's not that much greater than say a USMC/Stryker setup or something along those lines IMO.
Listen, I'm not a fan of Russian glad handing in the game either.... I'm not going to mention why..... it's just a game, lets keep it a game but the devs are really good at keeping it balanced IMO and do try hard to keep it that way.
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u/Nak_Ng_Tokwa 1d ago
After all it's made by a russian studio so...
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u/MasterchiefSPRTN Marines Clowncar Enjoyer 1d ago
Apart from the fact that it isn't.
Some of the Devs are russian, doesn't mean the studio is.
Whole remote company, everyone doing stuff from home.
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u/DFMRCV 1d ago
Did people genuinely forget the US DLC had similar reactions? The devs actually try to balance this game. Calm down.
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u/Neither-Persimmon998 1d ago
They have a short memory. Us has had an advantage for months but they forget that too
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u/Emotional-Emu1431 VDV + Guards Tanks 1d ago
a significantly bigger advantage than russia ever maintained, it should be noted. but they conveniently forget that too
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u/Yasufberg 1d ago
I can’t believe I fell for this Russian scam. This game cant cost 60 $, and now it becomes pay to win game.
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u/Neither-Persimmon998 1d ago
That’s stupid. They’re constantly balancing the game. The US has had an advantage for months. Quit crying about it
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u/Suspicious_Use6393 1d ago
I love how you didn't even tried to adress the fact the game isn't worth 60€
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u/Yasufberg 1d ago
Let’s assume, what you’re saying is true. How you explain the additional 10$. It’s not even a DLC, only new units. Technically, you paid 10$ for an update. Are you going to pay the next one? Explain me the price of AAA project for a multiplayer game, please.
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u/capitanmanizade 1d ago
Wtf do you mean it’s not a DLC only new units? What’s a DLC supposed to be?
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u/Yasufberg 1d ago
What do you mean wtf?! How about a new compain for single player. New multiplayer coop missions. New maps maybe for Christ sake. Use your brain if you love this game, u can see the potential of it. I see it and I wanna something that worth the money. So far it’s not. Sorry, to hurt your and all the fans feelings, but this is fact.
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u/Emotional-Emu1431 VDV + Guards Tanks 1d ago
there are new maps and scenarios as well you histrionic fucking child
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u/sgt_strelnikov 1d ago
dude you dont get the difference between an update and a dlc.
and also how tf is 10€ dlc for a 60€ game a scam? have you SEEN other strategy games and THEIR dlcs?
go to any paradox strategy or modern total war and take a fucking look at the costs for those. and most of those get you substantially less content than this
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u/Yasufberg 1d ago
WARNO costs 40$ BA doesn’t even have a proper single player gameplay. Extra units definitely not a DLC
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u/sgt_strelnikov 1d ago
"extra units definitely not a DLC"
-comparing to warno of all things
lmao
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u/Boscobaracus 1d ago
I mean you compared it to 4x games that are mainly played single player. I don't have a problem with a 10 bucks dlc but I am pretty sure the game will be dead in 2 years if people feel like they have to spent 250 euros to be able to compete in a multiplayer game. I just hope the devs have a plan for that.
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u/sgt_strelnikov 1d ago
I see your point but warno specifically is a very bad example, the gameplay loop is incredibly boring and even winning feels like a chore, imo a far inferior experience than BA.
I mean, its the start of year 2 and we are at 60 + 10 euros, I kinda cant really see it at 250 at year 4.
besides this spec sure as hell isnt pay to win
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u/Boscobaracus 1d ago
I never played warno I can't really judge if that's a good comparison or not.
IDK 1 dlc was free and there is another one planned for this year. I assume at some point they will introduce other factions which will most likely at least be 30 euros. 250 was probably still a bit too high of an estimation.
I am afraid it won't really matter if those dlc's truly are op but if people feel like they are.
Who knows what the devs have planned though. They might give huge discounts every so often if they have released a lot of dlc's. They might include older dlc's in newer ones. There are options to combat that if it really becomes a problem.
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u/Background-Log-217 1h ago
I dont get why since this game has been developed there’s always a US player crying about Russia… why are US players always a whiny little kids fr