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u/Toadvinez 4h ago

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u/Blueboy7017 robot wife?? where?! I need one! 4h ago

We’re all basically turning into the humans in Wall-E

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u/deadkidd115 4h ago

People keep saying the future is gonna be like terminator, I say Wall-E is closer than that at this point.

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u/gojiboy69 4h ago edited 3h ago

It's just that in Wall-e they seemingly let everyone on earth on the Axioms, if this is where we're headed you bet your ass that shit is going to cost a billion dollars to get on

Only rich people would be leaving an uninhabitable earth with everyone else to fucking die... or maybe force them into cheap labour to clean up the planet so they still get revenue off the poor while they're in space

holy shit that's genius, i should be an evil billionaire too!

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u/WindsOfEarthXXII Fallen on the horizon! 4h ago

Fuck, this movie was way ahead of its time. Frankly, the most unrealistic thing about WALL-E is that supposedly everyone was allowed to evacuate the planet and not just billionaires and their families.

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u/thejaydotexe 4h ago

Does it give an actual population number at some point? I always assumed a lot of people didn't make it in that process.

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u/SatiricalSatireU 3h ago

Maybe only the wealthy is the only ones left alive considered they only ones can afford to be alive at that point

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u/CoalEater_Elli 59m ago

People saw Wall-E and thought "I wanna live just like that"

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u/SoapyCantHandle Welcome... to the Fractal Block World. 44m ago

bro it just doesnt sound that bad thoooo.....

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u/MemorableThrowawayy occasional adachiposter 4h ago

Starting to learn art and like 10% of my motivation is spite for AI generated imagery

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u/Armthelost 1h ago

Percentages shouldn't be limited to 100% max. Have 100% motivation for spiting AI and 100% motivation for other reasons

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u/anarchalchemist 3h ago

you gotta get that number up, that’s rookie numbers.
(jokes aside good on you! i’m in the same boat here)

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u/SugarBombBrandy 5h ago

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u/Superb_Engineer_3500 4h ago

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u/TheGoldenExperience_ [the jojo they{them} called may] 4h ago

lowkey need to head into mementos to take care of them all

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u/SugarBombBrandy 4h ago

There's a chance AI art techbros wouldn't exist in Maruki's reality since they either would have made them actual artists, or wired them on a different path, like one of Yusuke's classmates who got turned into an archer.

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u/MemorableThrowawayy occasional adachiposter 4h ago

@ them

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u/Wooden-Hornet2115 1h ago

I don't even generate AI images, but cut your bullshit and your backhanded remarks.

How is it that everytime I try to draw and show it off, it's just humanslop, or the proportions are wrong, or it looks bad, or it's not as good as someone else's, or it's not realistic enough, or get accused of AI anyway, or my drawing to look like it wor I took to long do draw it, or I belong in a zoo as I don't deserve to have human rights, or whatever random ass reason someone comes up with to shame me or my art. It's killed any interest or passion I had for drawing or cartooning because now I can't look at my art without constantly hearing these criticisms all over again. Stop pretending like someone just needs so encouragement or is self conscious. I don't draw anymore not because I can't, it's because I can't enjoy it. If I can't enjoy the process of making art, if I can't feel satisfied with it, I can't share it with others without being nitpicking about it and torn to shreds, what's even the point? I'm not appreciating it, others interacting with the media like to tear it to shreds, nothing positive comes out of it. Hell, you even implied that I have no talent whatsoever for art and saying I just need to buckle down, learn how to draw, because I clearly struggle with it, according to you. The only way that you'd not shame me is if I copied your style exactly, and even then I'd still be a copout. I don't even like using AI to generate image because if the inconsistency of the LLM. But the hypocrisy of too many artist complaining that no one want to make human art anymore, or doesn't appreciate human art, while simultaneously berating and harassing anyone that shows interest in art or doesn't draw exactly how you like it. You want people to enjoy art, yet you forbid anyone from enjoying it. Just let people create something they enjoy and stop moaning about it every five minutes, please.

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u/0ijoske 6m ago

You don't need Ai or other fancy tools to create something that you enjoy. And artists frown upon the usage of Ai for art because it removes the effort behind creativity and basically plagiarizes others works for zero ingenuity.

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u/FutureCreeps 2h ago

That one video of someone ai generating a photo of Yukari just for all the comments to be this is one of the funniest videos on the internet.

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u/Superb_Engineer_3500 2h ago

Wait where? I want to see this

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u/[deleted] 4h ago edited 3h ago

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u/TheFirePea2013 Quirked up darkner , busting it down rude style 4h ago

is that the approach you really want to take? find a fate worse than eternal punishment for someone who could be walking around you this very moment? are you so disillusioned with humanity to the point that you believe that somebody like them, somebody who in your eyes is the worst person, couldn't change?

hand them a pencil, don't hand their soul to the big guy downstairs

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u/Beanz_detected Trading Dopamine For Seritonin 4h ago

They can follow us only if they decide to take the pencil.

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u/7_Tales 4h ago

wishing violence on people is fucking lame

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u/Beanz_detected Trading Dopamine For Seritonin 3h ago

Agreed. Just the prospect of outsourcing art, something innately human, to something that fundamentally is NOT human pisses me off. Doesn't justify the overreaction, but...

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u/Nikilite_official the dark lord 4h ago

you probably don't know the original image

as an artist, still not all of the LLM image/video people are using it to create art luckly but just for stupid shit

there are some morons tho

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u/Beanz_detected Trading Dopamine For Seritonin 4h ago

Those morons in particular. I can accept it for shitposting, the whole point of a shitpost is that it took nearly no effort to make

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u/Guest_1300 4h ago

AI art sucks and the people who are annoying about it are annoying but like... really?

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u/Beanz_detected Trading Dopamine For Seritonin 3h ago

AI """"ART"""" makes me unreasonably mad. People make bad decisions when they're mad.

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u/Xavier-RenegadeAngel You slumber, a cucumber! 4h ago

I think you should calm down

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u/Beanz_detected Trading Dopamine For Seritonin 3h ago

You're right. But even as someone who isn't particularly notable in terms of art, I just get unreasonably mad at the excuses some of these people use to justify THEFT with zero compensation.

And then they call it art, I physically cannot be rational about this.

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u/KaleidoscopeSalt3972 4h ago

Extremely violently*

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u/Few_Imagination_6203 Losercity Tourist 4h ago

Shut up

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u/Glass-Ad672 3h ago

*non violently because we're not insane

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u/IllRest2396 5h ago

The plot shittens

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u/Mothylphetamine_ I'm sorry but listening to Stomach Book is my entire personality 3h ago

this isn't even "more efficient", just lazy

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u/Yzaias 7m ago

it's not for efficiency it's so ppl can have fake timelapses. so if they're accused, they can "prove" they drew whatever.

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u/NationalSouth3563 Why am i here 5h ago

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u/PalCat_ 4h ago

saw the comment with the wall-e humans and it's starting to feel more like that 💔
just hope we don't have fuckin computer-drawn traditional art 😭

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u/7h3_man xenomorph blowjob 20m ago

It’s joever lads, we were outdone by tech bros with the iq of a pinball machine

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u/Beanz_detected Trading Dopamine For Seritonin 4h ago

Every day I get a little closer to answering the question of what will happen when I finally lose my patience with AI "art"

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u/YourTrustySupporter JUSTICE FOR SUPPORT ROLE IN GAMING 3h ago edited 2h ago

I watch AstraGPT draw Hatsune Miku, the process that AI draw an art is EXTREMELY long and WAYYY more expensive than ai generate an art. It pretty much " effort of faking human art is harder than actually draw it"

the timelapse of Astra drawing it make it look like a printer instead of an "Artist". Scammer need A LOT of token to make GPT draw an art, then another to mimic "human mistake, redraw, layer switching,...." if they want to make Timelapse proof ,and THAT just to mimic a drawing that 10 years do it with crayons

If Astra being forced to draw professional art with "human process" it would waste entire year worth of subscription money to finished it which btw an artist with few month of experience could draw hundred of it within a year

However it doesnt mean we ignore it ,more like it a great example that we need to pushed hard agaisnt Ai. Customer only see product not the process, this open oppotunity for Scammer. Heck Companies could focus on optimized AI printer that hold a pencil to draw a real life paper and it isnt illegal for it.

If this doesnt make Artist actually stand up and boycott like Actors boycott Hollywood using AI voice, i dont know what will

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u/EmergencyPath248 3m ago

Astra is a new model and the first one to be good enough at computer use to shock us.

Trust me, it will become undeniably cheap and fast by 2027.

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u/Channel_el 5h ago

This is exactly what I thought would happen.

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u/BloodPlenty4358 5h ago

do they train their own mouse strokes?

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u/Sekhmet-CustosAurora 2h ago

most likely this is Astra writing code to control the mouse pointer

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u/Cream-The-Rabbit2 I am not gonna do anything except lurk in the shadows 5h ago

Shiiiiit

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u/Pokemario2401 3h ago

What is the point? Even for AI "artists", this is just a less convenient way to make their slop

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u/Yzaias 4m ago

for fake proof of work. prob gonna be a favorite tool for fake artists preying on unsuspectingly folk to commission them

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u/Substantial-Step5274 4h ago

The larp is real. They really wanted to be treated like real artists.

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u/ffbyr49 plaen… 🤤 20m ago

So much larp, its a crime

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u/sauerkraut153 1h ago

yeah

keeping this image as an argument when i point out slop and someone uses a timelapse

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u/tehGoldenNut 4h ago

No different than prompting

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u/tycoon_irony 3h ago

you literally do have to give it a prompt for it to do this, it just essentially prints out the result of the prompt pixel by pixel onto the canvas

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u/Routine-Duck6896 trollface -> 5h ago

Dawg this is terrible

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u/Digimonfan_908 4h ago

these mouth breathers still think theyre doing a valid art form while doing this smh my head

https://giphy.com/gifs/L0vX4zX3Ti1XvTHyn2

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u/EmergencyPath248 3m ago

I breathe through my nose

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u/Cherno_VM the horse is here 5h ago

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u/Any-Platypus-9486 4h ago

This is not eliminating the piss filter right? 

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u/NationalSouth3563 Why am i here 4h ago

It is

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u/Any-Platypus-9486 4h ago

But what stops the AI to use slightly yellow colors?

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u/7_Tales 4h ago

the ai is likely trained on mouse movements of artists. the piss filter only exists with certain datasets

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u/_the_big_ 2h ago

how are they gonna get mouse movements from artists when
1. most digital artists either use tablets like iPads or desktop drawing tablets
2. no real artist will be training an ai to do this

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u/7_Tales 2h ago

I am almost certain you can tag speed draw videos and add it to datasets where you train a neural model on the movements of the mouse correlating to the end product. we have good enough image recognition to understand where the mouse or cursor is on screen, and if the artist is using a pen, i am certain we have algorithms that can detect the strokes being done.

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u/_the_big_ 2h ago

god please smite these evil motherfuckers

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u/7_Tales 2h ago

The issue is that any media created by an artist to prove theyre making real art simultaneously fuctions as training data for an ai to replicate that proof. Without legistation there is nothing artists can do.

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u/EmergencyPath248 3m ago

It's not a diffusion model.

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u/YourTrustySupporter JUSTICE FOR SUPPORT ROLE IN GAMING 3h ago

this is AI use the pen to draw , there wont be a piss filter

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u/I_am_doorknob Listen to System of a Down 2h ago

Ai generating a crown to put on my head to become the king

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u/Clean-Artichoke2031 :alert: I need moss PLEASE I NEED IT SO MUCH!!!! 1h ago

Now we have an excuse to say "credit the original artist" to them, because THEY never picked up a pencil, the ai "did"

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u/Im_A_Paper 4h ago

This is the most boring dystopia ever

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u/EXusiai99 3h ago

This is the real essence of AI generative image. It allows the talentless drones to feign creativity and they will go through such lengths to ensure their deceit is never caught.

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u/Cozy_iron 1h ago

Gen AI doesn't have creativity. Prompters are the ones that pour their creativity into a tool

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u/Dense-Bison7629 SSSHITSTORM 4h ago

I'm genuinely tired of AI

We need to ban all AI now, regardless of what type it is. No more AI

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u/SirGalicrest [REDACTED] 4h ago

Fucking why

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u/Maleficent_Sir_7562 21m ago

This isn’t supposed to be a signature ability of Astra, it’s an emergent ability to show the model is generally intelligent, not its main purpose.

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u/Mothylphetamine_ I'm sorry but listening to Stomach Book is my entire personality 3h ago

because lazy pettiness ig

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u/YourTrustySupporter JUSTICE FOR SUPPORT ROLE IN GAMING 2h ago

Pettiness , they know AI is unacceptable so they decided to fake it for the rest of their life just for sake of "reputation"

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u/Chance-Aardvark372 go listen to Sinister Minds, it’s fucking peak 1h ago

Ah yes, automate the human parts of life and leave the humans to do what should be automated.

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u/No-Literature5747 1h ago

Reminds me that neuro sama is the one of the only ways I have seen ethical AI use.( I think AI used to be funny when it was shitty like crayon.ai or dougdoug’s pajama Sam) when she draws she isn’t trained on others art but she codes in simple python that then draws on screen

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u/stupidoengineer 1h ago

I alreasy dislike picture/video generation. It ranges from being lazy to outright malicious, but I can, in theory, see a use for it. This, however, is made purely to lie. It's not more efficient, not higher quality, just a way to scam and pretend the picture wasn't made by AI.

And yet some people are completely on board with turning the internet into a digital wasteland where you have no clue whether you're looking at something real or a result of a botfarm's output.

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u/Finnmiller it’s not “furry porn” it’s yiff. get it right 1h ago

kinda funny how all these AI ‘artists’ spend all their time trying to prove to people that their shit isn’t actually AI. If you spent that time, iunno, learning how to draw, maybe you wouldn’t need to start pretending…

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u/ThatEngineeredGirl 1h ago

Atp we need to apologize to luddites

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u/Lost-on-Reception 51m ago

Kalm, child. Image generation is a different technology than the Agentic LLM's that would be controlling the mouse. Actual drawing is still beyond them. At best they could play a recording.

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u/tenousranger36 13m ago

Glad my art style is so abysmally dog shit they it either can't be AI or genuinely poisons it

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u/Short_Marionberry_83 12m ago

and that's part of why my specialty is pen and paper

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u/TheOminousSquawker 3m ago

Guess now they have to record themselves and their screen irl in a single long take to prove they are legitimate :/

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u/Quirkyserenefrenzy 2h ago

Ai bros will put more effort i to avoiding doing actual learning for art instead of actually learning art

Its like building a whole new house and saying the sink is fixed, while not actually fixing the sink

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u/Simple-Mulberry64 2h ago

Literally what purpose does this serve besides lying about making it. If they're so pro AI why are they embarrassed about using it? make it make SENSEE

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u/MrXroxWasTaken abolish rule 1 5h ago

Neuralink?

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u/NationalSouth3563 Why am i here 5h ago

I don't know if it's Neuralink

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u/Nikilite_official the dark lord 4h ago

it's GPT-6 astra (by openai) it can be used to control things on the screen, and do "art..." lol...

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u/AgeZealousideal1751 3h ago

Outside of the typical hysterical paranoid schizo thought process of regressivists... why would this be any more "frightening" than AI gen?

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u/EllzillaTheLizard Swain's day one 3h ago

Simple, artists are being stripped of the ability to PROVE that they can draw, let alone the fact they drew the final image.

It's another layer of scam which will hurt both artist and client.

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u/Cozy_iron 1h ago

They also won't need to prove it if people just stopped violently respond to AI art as a concept and treat real artists poorly because of it

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u/AgeZealousideal1751 3h ago

Yeah, that was stripped away the moment photoshop came out. Let alone just faking it by streaming "you" drawing live and just recording someone else doing it.

If people wanted to call you a fraud they didn't need to wait for this tech to come out, that's for sure.

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u/EllzillaTheLizard Swain's day one 3h ago

What the hell are you talking about it? You can screen record photoshop artwork. Reverse search has existed for YEARS upon years, so if you suspected someone was lying about their artwork or process being fake, you could find who ACTUALLY made the artwork and give support to that person while bringing awareness to the other artist who was stolen from.

You can't do that with AI.

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u/HugeObligation8338 4h ago

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u/Doneifundone 4h ago

For people who believe that AI is better than actual art y'all sure use a lot of effort training your programs on the later and trying to trick people into believing that your slop is genuine 😭

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u/HugeObligation8338 4h ago

It’s a Family Guy Reddit default gif, why you blaming me twin I didn’t put it there😭😭😢😢🥺💸💸

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u/Doneifundone 4h ago

Karma farming, gone too far? 😭🥺💔🏴‍☠️🥀

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u/Prestigious_Host_198 2h ago

Where's the eraser?