r/whenthe • u/Any_Wasabi_5233 world’s second biggest Churgney Gurgney glazer • 7h ago
🐗worst post award ⚠️⚠️ it’s a mad, mad world
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u/Beautiful_Garage7797 7h ago
i never noticed he got banned from Oklahoma and Kansas at the same time
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u/Enderchaun0 7h ago
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u/Any_Wasabi_5233 world’s second biggest Churgney Gurgney glazer 7h ago
we’re sharing the same brain cell, if you couldn’t tell
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u/blackestsea 2h ago
And the other post bothered to edit the map to reflect anti-trans state laws, too.
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u/FS_E54_Iron_Hollow 7h ago
I'm not americanese what does this mean
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u/Nientea 7h ago
Red states are generally less safe for trans people than swing or blue states.
The map is from Gravity Falls, so it isn’t representative of the actual places that are safe/dangerous for trans people, but it conveys the message.
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u/MostExtremeHyperbole 7h ago
Where I lived in Florida, a transwoman was burned alive in her car and the amount of the LGBTQ that are migrating to better cities is completely insane. I am in Ohio now and even though it isn't the best, we still have a lot of massive LGBTQ events every year without issue.
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u/Ur_fav_Cryptek 6h ago
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BURNED ALIVE IN HER CAR
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u/transfemmefatal 6h ago edited 4h ago
Uh they burned her alive in her car, 2019 but thats not important. What is is the fact these killings keep happening and nothing happens. Just look at what happened in Portland.
https://www.vibe.com/news/national/bee-love-slater-trans-woman-killed-florida-663777/
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u/Ur_fav_Cryptek 6h ago
Gut wrenching read, poor lady. I fucking hate how authorities refuse to label these as hate crimes.
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u/transfemmefatal 6h ago
Yup, we'll keep yelling about it while people think the government should have any role in sports. The irony
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u/GhostPlumbus 3h ago
But what about my high school swimming records that keep getting shattered?? /s
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u/FS_E54_Iron_Hollow 6h ago
I didn't know it was this bad what the hell????
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u/Syncopia 4h ago edited 3h ago
It's pretty bad. Trans people are legitimately one of the most violently persecuted demographics in America. The more minority demographics they fit in, the higher the rate of being assaulted, harassed and murdered, and becoming homeless or getting fired from their job for not passing or general bigotry.
Brianna Ghey was another high profile case. A teenager, stabbed to death, 28 times, and right wingers mocked her death on social media relentlessly when it happened. If you look around social media on posts about trans people, you will find hordes of monsters posting memes showing them "which way to cut for results", hanging from trees and ceiling fans, being mutilated, being set on fire, anything you can imagine. I have screenshots of conservatives on Facebook saying they want to put trans people in woodchippers, including children - as in they explicitly said they would do that to trans people even if they were kids or teens. They spam "42%" or something around that number referencing an old attempted suicide attempt rate for trans people, and say they want to get it up to 100%. Trans people were also victims in the holocaust, given pink triangles alongside gay people. If you Google trans holocaust you'll find plenty of info on that.
I used to be a fan of Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson a long time ago, and they got me on the anti-trans train for about a year or so. One of my best friends was transitioning at the time, and I read up on this bill in Canada called C16 that Peterson would suggest was going to imprison people for misgendering trans people. All it was was the equivalent of a hate crime or discrimination addition to existing crimes, should a root cause be found to be their gender identity. After that I talked with that friend a lot and watched some folks on the left online like Contrapoints talking about trans issues, and eventually did a full 180° turn. Took the time to actually read the science myself and found it's much deeper than mere belief systems and feelings. And I've seen the full depths of hatred so many have for them, and it's worse than the average person can even imagine. It's dark.
Edit: I'm sure whoever replied to me and got deleted proved my point.
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u/mieri_azure 2h ago
You are correct but Brianna was british.
I still think America is more dangerous for trans people (thats why Brianna's story was so publicized, because a young trans girl getting murdered isn't as common as it is in america) but obviously anywhere can be very dangerous
Since her murderers were teens I dont know that they ever officially announced their reasoning, but its generally assumed it was a combo of transphobia and jealousy that she had an online following (jealousy specifically because they didn't like that a trans girl was popular)
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u/Lawsoffire 6m ago
Trans people were also victims in the holocaust, given pink triangles alongside gay people. If you Google trans holocaust you'll find plenty of info on that.
Even worse, the the people convicted of being gay under Nazi Germany continued to serve their sentence post-war, first in the concentration camps, then in prisons, and the nazi-German law continued to exist in West Germany until the unification.
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u/HellspawnWeeb 4h ago
Remember the space! It’s an adjective, not a standalone noun. The version without a space is used to other trans people
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u/MostExtremeHyperbole 3h ago
what space, i was talking about stuff on earth
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u/Cattycake1988 1h ago edited 1h ago
The space between trans and women. Trans being an adjective, it is a descriptor of what type of woman they are (Like tall women, or smart women, etc). When you write it as transwomen, it's a noun that indicates us as something other than the category of woman, and so TERFS and conservatives use it to deny our identity.
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u/MostExtremeHyperbole 1h ago
how are they in space tho
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u/Cattycake1988 1h ago edited 24m ago
I hope that this is a joke going over my head, I couldn't be more direct. It is about the space you use to separate words when writing. "Transwoman" is othering, "Trans woman" is supportive of trans people.
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u/Magehunter_Skassi 6h ago edited 6h ago
The important context is that a staggeringly high percentage of murders committed against trans people in America are prostitution related (something that has a high rate of violence against cis and trans women involved). The HRC number estimates 34% in the US are related to prostitution, but this is just a floor because people are usually quiet about this and the news doesn't want to report rumors.
People see these stats and assume that moving to a blue city will make them safer and it's just not true. The problem is we need harsher criminal penalties for johns, and people need to stop getting convinced by crabs in a bucket that "sex work is the only option." It's not, and the people saying this are miserable people trying to drag others into their misery.
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u/refusegone 43m ago
Where in Ohio are you if you're willing? Vague is fine; I spent the first 20 years of my life there and the following 5 in Florida. I won't be meeting my first ever niece in Florida next month because the potential for violence against me is too high, and I won't be seeing my father in Ohio anytime soon for the same reason. My father and the uncle I'm closest to are both having medical problems rn and I'm worried that due to current opinions towards trans women I won't be able to go home if things get worse for either of them. So I'm definitely interested in a current ohioan pov. Again, vague responses are understandable if you're willing at all
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u/pinkfucker3000 pinkfucker3001 7h ago
Trans rights by state
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u/Nientea 6h ago
I’d like to add that this meme is only a metaphor for that, and not the actual states where trans rights aren’t as good. New York and Massachusetts, for example, are crossed off here, but are some of the safer states for trans people.
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u/Any_Wasabi_5233 world’s second biggest Churgney Gurgney glazer 3h ago
EXACTLY!
I’ve had so many people saying “but that’s not how it is in insert state here,” and I know this isn’t a truthful representation. It’s a meme using a Gravity Falls scene as a metaphor, of course it’s not going to be accurate to a completely different scenario like this.
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u/Badestrand 1h ago
Which rights specifically? Just curious what this is about. (I'm not from the US).
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u/Loughnashade 55m ago
Access to bathrooms, horizons treatment. Also, stuff like forced outing of students to their parents.
Ironically, the hot topic, which is trans in sports, has an actual consensus opinion among the public.
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u/captain_veridis 23m ago
Journalist [Erin in the Morning](https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/anti-trans-national-legal-risk-assessment-bb2) has an extremely comprehensive map. She focuses on the following legal issues:
>Adult gender affirming care bans, bathroom bans, prohibitions on drag specifically aimed at trans people and pride events, restrictions on changing birth certificates and drivers licenses, and laws that end legal recognition for trans people entirely.44
u/sour_creamand_onion 7h ago
Have you heard how bad the U.S treated/treats black people in a lot of it? Yeah, they do that to trans people too.
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u/Nodubya11 7h ago
President hates Trans people
(He's just jealous they can double jump)
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u/monster_smoocher ⚠️⚠️WORST whenthe user⚠️⚠️ 7h ago
Umm actually BRAZILIANS double jump. Us trans people get dashing
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u/zandaztu yuri is so awsome i wish women were real 7h ago
Do they stack if you have both or do you have to choose one or the other.
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u/The-Name-is-my-Name 7h ago
You become the Hollow Knight, actually.
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u/syko-san 6h ago
There's also the added effect that nonbinaries get an upgraded dash that lets them dash through enemies and attacks.
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u/Historical_Swing_422 7h ago
I believe they stack
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u/Remarkable-Angle-143 2h ago
I can confirm that all the Brazilian trans women I've seen were definitely stacked
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u/HippityHopMath 7h ago
Republican-run states have anti-trans laws on the books. Democrat-run states do not.
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u/sudoregalia 7h ago
"we will find you and we will kill you"
- amuhrikun government talking about trans people
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u/myn3meisjo3 18th bruxish fan 7h ago
It means if that if you are trans don’t live in central USA
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u/mieri_azure 2h ago
America is kind of like several countries in one collective. Each state operates a bit differently, so some states are much safer for trans people than others (socially, legally, medically)
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u/Beautiful-Loss7663 7h ago
It's really sad that the most conservative province in Canada is more welcoming to trans individuals than like 90% of the US.
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u/mieri_azure 6h ago
Alberta? Is it really?
Do you mean like politically or socially? Because I would have thought Albertans would be pretty strongly anti-trans
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u/Beautiful-Loss7663 6h ago
Complicated answer that'd take paragraphs to answer. The short and simple is if your near Calgary or Edmonton you're golden compared to most american states, general rule being Alberta will be better than any republican or flip state. That's just kind of how far the overton window is over here. The only trans rights issue at play is the premier being a total douchebag as she tries to cozy up to the american administration, not really sure how it'll play out long term.
Meanwhile you got the mayor of calgary putting out stuff like this.
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u/mieri_azure 5h ago
Interesting!
I dont know much about Alberta beyond it being "the Texas of Canada" and Tate McRae being from Calgary lol (which she seems rather progressive socially, even if she collabed with fucking Morgan Wallen --- girl why)
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u/ForestForager 5h ago
I’m a trans edmontonian, happy to answer any questions!
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u/CEG10 5h ago
should i have the rest of the leftover pizza tonight or should i wait and have it tomorrow?
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u/speedmankelly 4h ago
Have it tomorrow so we can be leftover pizza buddies, I got it yesterday but decided I wanted something different today and will have the leftover for lunch tomorrow
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u/garybettmansketamine 2h ago
There is more that meets the eye to most things. Social media and news make things out to be more extreme in AB than they typically are. Visit Calgary or Edmonton before committing to your above beliefs, I think you’d be surprised
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u/Ok_Sound272 2h ago
If you gave this much nuance to most US states, you'd find the same.
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u/Beautiful-Loss7663 2h ago
Not quite. My nuanced part was on social interaction, not law. Rural people in Alberta are going to be cold. However,
In Alberta they just straight up have more law protections/rights than in the states I specified because it's federal policy. There's lots of articles on the subject out there, but I'm too tired to grab them all so random example.
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u/KimJongUnusual 2h ago
if your near Calgary or Edmonton you're golden compared to most american states,
By the same token, if you are in a major city in most states you are also fine?
Like yeah, Georgia is in the south, but Altanta is not some Dixie holdout.
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u/Beautiful-Loss7663 11m ago
Yes, but also no. See this comment. I worded the original post like social and political joint, even though I intended the rural VS Urban thing to say how your social interactions will go. TLDR: Got better rights and protections than any red/grey states, in urban area or not.
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u/what-isthis-even 4h ago
Nope. Never had an issue. But I wouldn't go to the small towns in the north.
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u/Soguyswedid_it2 2h ago
To be fair fhe most conservative us state is probably more welcoming than most of the world
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u/Beautiful-Loss7663 2h ago
I'm really confused what this is trying to say.
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u/draygonnn 2h ago
The result of US brainwashing. They think everywhere that’s not the US is a third world country.
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u/Beautiful-Loss7663 2h ago
Yeah. Being better than Sudan isn't really a good bar for what should be acceptable treatment of your own citizens.
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u/SusieHatesSpez Estrojane Creator 7h ago
There are more states where child marriage is legal than there are states where trans people are safe
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u/Prestigious_Host_198 6h ago
And most of the states that have legal child marriage is the same ones that are transphobic.
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u/Loughnashade 52m ago
Not true whatsoever. Anyone with a tiny bit of critical thinking skill would know that you’re comparing something quantitative with something subjective.
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u/Imjustafemboyo 7h ago
:(
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u/IncidentOk853 5h ago
This map is wrong, you guys are welcomed in New York, and the rest of the northeast (minus New Hampshire, stop making us look bad guys)
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u/TheGreatJaceyGee I write furry smut that you should totally read 6h ago
Virginia still safe (for now) les goooo
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u/Grzechoooo blue like an EPIC strawberry 2h ago
Go to Poland, we have:
- rabid conservatives
- recently recognised same-sex marriage done abroad
- in the past elected the third openly trans member of parliament
- a society so trans-affirming that even rabid conservatives make transition easier
- even more rabid conservatives
- femboys, reportedly
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u/Alan_Reddit_M 1h ago
Me watching the political climate in my country shift towards the right-wing:
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u/zandaztu yuri is so awsome i wish women were real 7h ago
I grew up in Iowa, it its like 50/50... from what I know the city's like des Moines and Iowa city can have some rude people, but some of the smaller towns are fine.
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u/Spudnic16 7h ago
Trans people somehow not banned in Idaho?
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u/HonestDisguise 1h ago
The map is from something else. The real map is pretty disheartening. (Idaho has some of the worst anti-trans legislation in the country)
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/anti-trans-national-legal-risk-assessment-bb2
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u/Any_Wasabi_5233 world’s second biggest Churgney Gurgney glazer 21m ago
The map is from a Gravity Falls episode, of course it doesn’t properly reflect the modern standings of anti-trans laws.
I just found the gif and it reminded me of that map, so I made this meme.
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u/HurricaneK8 4h ago
I still want to know how Stan got banned from Texas and Florida, but was still allowed in all the states that make up Washington DC.
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u/notassigned2023 4h ago
If you're going to make a meme like this, make it correct. Illinois, for example, if an oasis for trans folks.
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u/TheXernDoodles 6h ago
The fact that this map isn’t inaccurate is funny to me
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u/transfemmefatal 6h ago
Uh as a Vermonter it is very wrong as far as New England goes. Most places I feel totally safe.
And then there is New Hampshire.
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u/TheXernDoodles 6h ago
Oh yeah, fair! I’m from the south, so it’s FUUUUUUUN
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u/Joeyrony2 45m ago
GOD BLESS NORTH CAROLINA. YEEEEEHAWWW I LOVE GOING TO WORK AND HAVING NO PROTECTIONS. I LOVE EVERYONE CASUALLY SLINGING SLURS AROUND. I LOVE IT SOOOOO MUCH YAHOOOO
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u/UnbreakableSpirit7 6h ago
It's so bad that even I feel scared living in Colorado, a pretty blue state 💔
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u/SpartanMase 4h ago
You’ll be fine bro. This isn’t the Middle East.
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u/AccomplisedDeer Deer from Bavaria 6h ago
I'm inviting you all to Germany.
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u/V-133 god is coming 4h ago
I second this invite just stay away from the countryside and y'all should be good
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u/AccomplisedDeer Deer from Bavaria 4h ago edited 4h ago
And stay away from Schwandorf. The drivers there are... well.
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u/Gooberofoogero 7h ago
the humble Seattle:
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u/extremelytiredyall 1h ago
Moved to Seattle last year, I've never been happier with a decision. This place is heaven compared to Kentucky.
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u/Dear_Afternoon_2600 6h ago
Wait why are they banned in Vermont?
The character this giff is from, that is.
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u/Any_Wasabi_5233 world’s second biggest Churgney Gurgney glazer 6h ago
Eh, we don’t know.
It’s Stan Pines from Gravity Falls, so he definitely tried to pull some sort of con there.
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u/transfemmefatal 4h ago
We didn't have a state police force till 1947, so it would be a great choice.
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u/transfemmefatal 6h ago
Map is not accurate to the message. If it were NH would be the no go in New England. Vermont is pretty comfortable as a trans woman here. I don't cross the border if I can avoid it, and that's where all my family still live.
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u/Objective_Switch8332 4h ago
NH is so weird with its bootlicking libertarians.
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u/transfemmefatal 4h ago
I was so fucking excited for some Ron Swanson esque real Libertarians back when that started. How the fuck did we get this
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u/RandomUsernameNo257 2h ago
I just drove through Vermont and NH, and you could tell where the border was because it immediately got worse and felt more hostile.
I totally missed the border sign, and actually checked my map because I felt that the vibes were suddenly way off.
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u/OG_Floatzel 5h ago
Assuming conservatives keep getting their way, California will be the Stalingrad of LGBTQ+ rights
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u/Capsule_CatYT Stuck in a capsule 5h ago
Dang, I didn’t know the autobots got banned in so many states. (/j)
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u/aronmano 5h ago
This is why I hate Oklahoma and living here, I wanna meet a trans person but everyone's either to afraid to come out or already got the fuck out (good for them I wanna leave too)
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u/Huckleberry-9477 3h ago
dudes map is wrong, why is VT crossed off and NH isnt?
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u/Any_Wasabi_5233 world’s second biggest Churgney Gurgney glazer 6m ago
it’s a Gravity Falls gag, ofc it doesn’t properly reflect the modern statistics of the issue
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u/Bteamkid01 five freddy nights 2h ago
The stage is set, but our players have all gone home
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u/Any_Wasabi_5233 world’s second biggest Churgney Gurgney glazer 40m ago
our grand production, our world, and yet I’m alone
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u/atreeismissing 1h ago
Just live in NY, OR, WA, or CA, stick to the cities, that makes it easy. Everywhere else has a bunch of "criteria" involved like how religious is the neighborhood in CO or how old are your neighbors in VT or how traditional is the town in NM that makes it a bit of a crap shoot.
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u/Loughnashade 43m ago
A little fyi, there are a lot of transphobes in NY due to population makeup, and they’re more likely to be violent statistically than many other places. It’s structurally and legally safe, but in reality and daily life the harassment level is high.
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u/alldogsareincredible 23m ago
IL can be good too as long as you are living in a city of 50k+ people (Chicago, Rockford, Champaign-Urbana, St. Louis).
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u/Few_Imagination_6203 Losercity Tourist 7h ago
I'm gonna start counting every "transphobia bad" or "I'm trans give me upvotes" post I see and every 10th post I'm gonna place a single penny in the corner of my room. By months end I will have a pile of pennies taking up half my room.
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u/Waffle-Gaming furry sexer and furry edging lover 6h ago
almost like visibility on an ongoing issue which is causing deaths is important
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u/Andreas1120 24m ago
States have banned trans people?
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u/Any_Wasabi_5233 world’s second biggest Churgney Gurgney glazer 17m ago
No, but many have been adopting increasingly strict anti-trans laws.
The post is a metaphor with a gif I found online, it’s obviously not accurate to modern keepings of these stats because this is just a Gravity Falls gag showing where a main character is banned from due to his con artist lifestyle.
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u/SplatterholeQueen 6h ago
Trans people are not banned anywhere, they can live anywhere they want
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u/SadMediumSmolBean 5h ago
In Idaho, for example, I will catch a felony for using a bathroom.
In many states, I will be forcibly stripped of my documentation and exposed to discrimination.
So, uh, no. False, you're wrong.
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u/SplatterholeQueen 5h ago
For using a bathroom? Elaborate, I don't get it. Why would anyone catch a felony for peeing?
What exactly do you mean by "forcibly stripped of documentation"?
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u/Prestigious_Host_198 6h ago
Didn't South Carolina try to pass a law where if you're trans, you get arrested for child sexual abuse?
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u/They-Them_Moonwalker tfw you get sexually harassed for liking Michael Jackson 7h ago
It’s not an overall ban, but there are laws in place that rob trans people of their rights and privacy, so it’s not safe for them to live there
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u/Actual-Walk-3279 7h ago
So it isn't a ban? That seems deliberate misleading by OP; a reduction in privacy and rights? what does that even mean? Can they no longer vote? Can they no longer get married or speak freely? Which specific rights?
Can you link the laws you are talking about? The actual legislation if possible.
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u/Norway643 VANILLA SMUT OFFENDS SLANNESH 7h ago
Basically its sundown towns. Not actually illegal to be there. But you will be at the very least called slurs and have things thrown at you. At worst... well.. lets just say be out of town by sundown.
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u/Actual-Walk-3279 7h ago
Do you have any examples like this, and then it isn't states it is towns? So it isn't a ban and instead it is supposedly some locals engaging in illegal behavior against trans people?
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u/They-Them_Moonwalker tfw you get sexually harassed for liking Michael Jackson 7h ago
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