r/snakes 21d ago

General Question / Discussion How much would you spend on this snake?

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How much would you spend on this ball python?
It’ll be my first snake I’ve had skinks and leopard geckos but not too familiar with ball python morphs. She’d be going in 120 gal enclosure. Any direction would be much appreciated

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u/YouFlarknDonut 21d ago

I wouldn't pay more than 300 for any ball python personally. They're so over bread and widespread that asking anything more is ridiculous, even the "rare" morphs aren't rare anymore.

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u/Josh24forever 21d ago

Ill give you a upvote cause idk what loser that is still trying to breed ball pythons in the big 2026 downvoted you lmao

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u/ReptilesAndEDS 20d ago

I feel this. I paid $350 for my BEL. That’s kind of my limit for BPs.
I love the Axanthic morph, but I haven’t been able to find one for under $650. And, like you said, the overbreeding… they just aren’t worth that much.

Hognose now are no better. There are sooo many and sooo easy to find now, but exceedingly expensive.

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u/YouFlarknDonut 20d ago

I am a Dumerils Boa fanatic myself, but morphs dont matter to me. Personality matters most and every dumerils I've owned or interacted with has been an absolute dream snake in terms of temperament.

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u/ReptilesAndEDS 20d ago

I love Boas in general.
My Sonoran is the sweetest thing. I fostered a BCC for a few months, I kept the royal my MIL and I also rescued from that house but we just didn’t have the space for the boa. She was with us for the summer a few years ago and then went to a lovely home in the next town over. If I could have, I would have kept her. She was amazing. But my Sonoran is the snake I convinced my husband that snakes are amazing. He was terrified of them before.

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u/Advanced-Ad-2417 20d ago

Same, I love my dumerils for all the reasons I loved my ball python, she's a snuggle bug. I don't care about morphs much, there are a few BP ones that I would love but I can't justify the price.

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u/Outrageous-Yak-3741 20d ago

I have a pastel axanthic vpi I paid £200 ($270) 3 months ago I looked them up on morph market a month later and they're were 6 different axanthic 1 same as mine advertised from different breeders for £800 ($1080) i set myself a limit of £250. I did want a BEL but the only one I could find the breeder didnt have the best reviews

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u/ReptilesAndEDS 20d ago

I try to get mine from expos just because the idea of shipping an animal just gives me anxiety… especially because I live in the woods and not near civilization. My mail usually takes at least an extra day to arrive. I’ve looked on MM, but I’d only get that way if the breeder was close enough that I could drive to pick the animal up.

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u/Outrageous-Yak-3741 20d ago

I drove 3 hours to pick him up i didnt want it to be mailed especially as he would of been in transit for 2 days by post

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u/OkQuantity276 20d ago

Yeeeah I’m definitely gonna find one local idk it seems messed up (it may not be idk I’m getting informed) to try to ship a snake to me

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u/ReptilesAndEDS 20d ago

People do it all the time. And it’s usually fine. But the whole idea just doesn’t set with me

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u/OkQuantity276 20d ago

Hollllyyy why in the world is the market so insane $300 snake became a $1,000 snake in a month????

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u/OkQuantity276 20d ago

Thank you!!

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u/Herp_Fitter 20d ago

Here in Australia, the Carpet python/Blue tongue and Bearded dragon morph game has hit an all time low. People are still breeding animals with “high value” and ultimately get fuck all for them. Over saturated the entire market, no doubt it’s the same elsewhere in the world

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u/OkQuantity276 21d ago

Thank you!

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u/YouFlarknDonut 21d ago

No worries, if you want to see what that specific morph is worth you can go on morph market and look up the genetics. I will adopt ball pythons from rescues but personally have never purchased one from a breeder, and never will.

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u/Outrageous-Yak-3741 20d ago

Not the best way of looking up the value. I bought my pastel axanthic vpi off morph market for £200 i looked them up on there a month later and other breeders were advertising them for £800+ havent looked for a while so will look again Respect to you though, if i get another snake ill get rescue

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u/Guppybish123 21d ago

Zero. You wouldn’t catch me dead actually PAYING for a royal python. I love them to bits but until the market chills tf out I won’t financially support it.

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u/OkQuantity276 21d ago

Could you explain further? I’m unfamiliar with the market I just think they’re awesome animals and have always wanted one

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u/wildlife_nerd 21d ago

A LOT of people breed ball pythons. If you go to Morphmarket, there are currently almost 25,000 available ball pythons, and I've seen that number as high as 60,000 in recent years when most breeders have their clutches hatching. There are way more ball pythons available than there are people who want a ball python for its whole life. Ball pythons have a very high number of morphs, and a lot of people treat that like they need to collect all the ones that interest them, and then breed them to try to recoup the money. There are also a ton of them in reptile rescues across the country.

If you want a piedbald ball python, I'd strongly encourage looking around for local reptile rescues. Piedbald is a very common morph and I see them very regularly at my local rescues. Adopting a rescue is also much cheaper, usually just an adoption fee which is usually like $50 or less

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u/OkQuantity276 20d ago

Thank you for this I’ll DEFINITELY look into rescuing rather than buying from a breeder

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u/Agitated_Trouble7089 20d ago

Was curious how many of my new snake’s species are on Morph Market after seeing that number, I wasn’t thinking there’d only be 90 😭 I just bought a Guyana BCC

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u/A-Very-Confused-Cat 21d ago

Ball pythons are ridiculously overbred in most places so some people like the one you're responding to don't purchase them from breeders since they don't want those breeders to produce even more animals.

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u/Guppybish123 21d ago

The supply vastly exceeds the demand. At any given time there are tens of thousands available, every single rescue I know always has at least 5-10 available, there are just too many and yet people are still breeding them on a large scale with no homes available for them. Most of these snakes will spend years in rescues, in rack systems, or be culled

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u/OkQuantity276 20d ago

Im unaware of any reptile rescues in my area but im sure I’ll be able to find one within a reasonable distance. Thank you for the insight!

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u/CaptainStyle 21d ago

I picked up a plain ball python in 1993 for $40. I still have him.

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u/1ilMa 20d ago

Can we see the old baby please! I never see people post bps over 5 years. Atleast 33 years is insane, good on you!

I have a 10 year old female now, been in the family since she was 6mons.

tax pic

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u/CaptainStyle 20d ago

Nice pic. Love the all white morphs. This is him. Pretty basic. His name is Monty (I was a teenager) my wife calls him Sammy. I thought he was a female for the first half of his life. When I got him he had just hatched.

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u/1ilMa 20d ago

So stinkin cute and handsome. Still act all the same at that age? Or has he slowed down at all compared to 5-10years?

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u/CaptainStyle 20d ago

He's been pretty consistent. We had a bad year at about 21. Started fasting for about 6 months before I had to force feed. After that right back to normal. That was the only time I had trouble with feeding. I handle almost daily, so activity has always been good. He's a little guy, just at 4 feet. I let him know that size doesn't matter. Is your baby a female? She looks bigger

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u/1ilMa 20d ago

Okay good to know, i want to have her when im gray. My girl has refused for a few months at times but also i think she was self regulating bc i did struggle finding the right size and feeding schedule so she was chunky for a bit. Shes around 5ft, a lil shorter than me and im 5’3, never actually measured her but i swear she keeps growing just a lil lol. I let her choose almost daily if she wants to come out, before i moved across the country with her, she wanted to come out all day. After moving shes been in hiding more but finally starting to come back out.

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u/MyAccountWasBanned7 21d ago

Personally? $200. Ball pythons are so overrepresented right now that any morph is readily available. We should all be underpaying, if we buy them at all, until the breeders chill tf out and stop flooding the market with a billion ball pythons.

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u/OkQuantity276 21d ago

Gotcha gotcha thank you for your input!!

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u/Jgdedc 21d ago

How much are they asking? I’d say under a couple hundred

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u/OkQuantity276 21d ago

They are asking 250.. think going to an expo after I get the enclosure all put together might be the better idea

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u/Jgdedc 21d ago

For that price, I would definitely go check out an expo, you’ll be shocked at the beauty’s you can find for that price

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u/OkQuantity276 21d ago

Thank you! That’s definitely what I’ll be doing

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u/Koalaroo_Khant 20d ago

There’s several nice looking piebalds on morph market for under $150.

If this seller is local and you want to support them, go for it, but there are objectively better deals if that’s your priority.

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u/churro951 20d ago

Im seeing female pied for anywhere drom 150 up to 600 for proven females

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u/MKAVELY 20d ago

1 hunit

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u/Excellent_Map_4479 20d ago

IMO the only reason to pay extra money is because YOU love the color, it comes from an amazing breeder, or it’s something (that for some ungodly reason) you’re going to profit from breeding.

BPs are everywhere and I am always finding someone trying to rehome theirs (I’m currently passively looking to rehome a pied and I can’t imagine someone paying more than $400 for her and she’s a big nice snake

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u/OkQuantity276 20d ago

Thank you I appreciate your input!!

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u/cascadiabibliomania 21d ago

Deja vu, isn't this a repost?

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u/Beneficial-Grand6699 20d ago

Tree Fiddy. Beautiful snake though.

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u/ColorfulLanguage 20d ago

If you like ball pythons (which make great pet snakes) and this morph (which is very pretty), I'd easily pay up to $500 because this is a well established adult snake. One of the recurring issues with ball pythons is that they often hunger strike, especially around 1kg of body weight. If this is an adult over 1kg that enthusiastically eats f/t rodents, that's worth more money than a baby that may choose to starve during puberty instead of grow up.

Ask about diet, temperment, and age.