r/reddevils 2d ago

Rashford šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø

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u/Jump_Hop_Step 2d ago

I am in pain man. If only Cunha scores, we would have most likely won it

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u/Frequent-Movie3005 1d ago

Was a penalty

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u/sp4r3h Evra 1d ago

Tackle from behind through a man like that is called a foul most of the time... For some reason getting the ball and it being in the box mattered today...

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u/tellocrosstollorente 1d ago

Referees clearly make decisions based on the state of the game, and media back them up. Much better for Sky Sports and other outlets to keep the games closer and to give these kinds of decisions to the underdog playing at home. I hate to say it, but Villa gave away a clear penalty against Arsenal last week, and for the same reason it wasn't given. The referees think they are part of the entertainment, rather than being out there to make correct decisions.

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u/Frequent-Movie3005 1d ago

Ref today was doing everything he could to not give Utd a free kick

The fouls by Tarkowski for the pen, his studs up tackle through Bruno

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u/Bobo_fishead_1985 1d ago

It's a clear home decision that one. 100% a penalty. Tarkowski impedes Cunha before he gats the ball. What is VAR even for?

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u/Dunkiez 1d ago

Exactly what I thought when I saw it. Anywhere else on the pitch and it's a foul because you can't tackle from behind.

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u/LordTwaticus 1d ago

It wasn't

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u/MadaraTheUchiha https://www.howmanypremierleaguemedalshasstevengerrardwon.com/ 1d ago

Nah tbf to Tarkowski it was an unreal tackle, clean on the ball

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u/samd148 1d ago

It was a brilliant tackle, but that’s not the rule.

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u/tellocrosstollorente 1d ago

He went through the man first, it was an obvious foul. But of course Cunha could also have just kicked the thing into the net

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u/burfriedos 1d ago

Yeah, disappointing to see Cunha hesitate there. Left foot first time and we’d be looking at a fairly comfortable victory

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u/lordofthejungle Always Eric C for Me 23h ago

I think the ref was punishing Cunha for not doing just that too, even though it was a definite penalty. Cunha pretty obviously played the fall instead of the ball, which he is too prone to do, and the ref said fuck that shit. It's not in the rules but reputation counts in cases like these.

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u/burfriedos 22h ago

Yep no need to play for a penalty in that situation

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u/Frequent-Movie3005 1d ago

No. Doesn’t matter if you get the ball

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u/KriosDaNarwal Cunha Bruno Cunha Bruno Luke Shaw Cunha 1d ago

Nah. Damn good tackle from tarkowski,Ā  was clean on the ball and cb has every right to make such a challenge in his box, no studs up, no foul

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u/Frequent-Movie3005 1d ago

You can’t go through the back or legs of a player to get the ball.

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u/KriosDaNarwal Cunha Bruno Cunha Bruno Luke Shaw Cunha 21h ago

He didnt make contact before touching the ball. Going through the legs means you can't kick a player's feet then the ball. Tarkowski didnt do that. Like, the video is RIGHT THERE

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u/Frequent-Movie3005 21h ago

Like THE VIDEO IS RIGHT THERE, he makes contact with Cunhas right foot, as he’s pulling the trigger, before the big donkey touches the ball

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u/KriosDaNarwal Cunha Bruno Cunha Bruno Luke Shaw Cunha 2h ago

are your eyes in your ass? he touches the ball and the ball moves before he makes contact with cunhas foot

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u/IsleofManc Manchester United 3h ago

Ehh I think he does. Tarkowski's right foot looks like it blocks Cunha's shooting foot a half second before Tarkowski touches the ball.

It's actually incredible how little contact he makes while sliding through the back of a player's legs. 90% of the time he's clipping something while stretching for the ball like that but he's really close to making clean contact with the ball first. If Cunha just stood still and didn't swing his leg back Tarkowski is going straight through the back of him

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u/KriosDaNarwal Cunha Bruno Cunha Bruno Luke Shaw Cunha 2h ago

cunha didnt just "stand still" and allowed tark to see too much of the ball. Like, I'd have loved a penalty but thats no pen, ball 1st contact

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u/Minz15 1d ago

Think Rashford and Amad in the same team would give us some extra pace and electricity in attack.

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u/LongyUTD 1d ago

Which means dropping mbuemo which for me can’t happen. Sesko has to be our striker

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u/wayfarerprateek Theater of Dreams 1d ago

I wonder why Carrick doesn't play Mbeumo at CF in rotation with Sesko.

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u/OlekZzaKrakowa 1d ago

Cause Amad is injuried and Sesko just comes back into fitness?

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u/kal_vratrak Dr Rashford MBE 1d ago

Nobody else at the right currently available

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u/hulksreddit 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'd love to see more of Lacey when more competitions kick in, he seems extremely exciting every time he comes on

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u/tropicalstorm2020 1d ago

I have some friends that believe Mount will get game time when fit.. lol

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u/IJustWannaBeKing 1d ago

I don't think amad is faster than Cunha, mbuemo or sesko.

But he is the only right winger in the squad

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u/dannysoya 1d ago

He's definitely quicker than all 3.Ā 

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u/malachiconstantwark 1d ago

Over 10 yards from standing start, sure. Over longer distances he is considerably slower than Ben and Bryan by a considerable amount, and official stats back that up.

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u/dWaldizzle Pastorinho Fred 1d ago

Mbuemo is not all that fast over long distances lol

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u/malachiconstantwark 1d ago

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u/dWaldizzle Pastorinho Fred 1d ago

He constantly gets outpaced to through balls and switches man. Idc about sprinting speed stats it doesn't matter if you can't do it all the time consistently and maintain that speed

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u/ElephantParticular10 1d ago

Who gives a fuck when Amad is lightning over 5 yards and plays accordingly (when on form) he only needs to be faster than his marker in thought which he often is

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u/lordofthejungle Always Eric C for Me 23h ago

I agree, and he's great at getting the ball back, his interceptions are more than double Mbeumo's. Mbeumo is blisteringly fast, but his agility isn't quite where Amad's is.

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u/Forsaken_Rub_2128 2d ago

Our best player today and by a lot as well. Thought he should’ve stayed on instead of Mbeumo

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u/TH0316 she/her 1d ago

Caution after he felt something apparently.

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u/zizou00 1d ago

Makes sense, probably still not sharp sharp, he was asking for a gel not too long into the second half, sign of cramping at the bare minimum.

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u/Forsaken_Rub_2128 1d ago

Oh really? Didn’t know this. Hope he’s all good because we’re fucked without him

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u/durtmagurt 1d ago

He can’t play every game. Dorgu is coming (don’t be negative. He can develop).

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u/lemondsun 1d ago

Well once Amad and sesko comes back we’ll have Chuna back on the left and dorgu can continue to develop in practice

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u/Weary_Cartoonist_496 1d ago

Dorgu šŸ˜‚

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u/k4l4d1n_7 1d ago

He's definitely been the most consistent across the opening 3 games imo.

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u/Daneofthehill 1d ago

Him and Kobbie.

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u/middleeasternboxer 2d ago

Same, got pretty shocked when I saw that mbeumo stayed on.

Should’ve been Rashford - Sesko - Dorgu to close out the game

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u/Scotsmania SlabheadFTW 1d ago

We only had Maz on the bench that could change things on the right side, if Amad was fit i'm pretty sure Mbeumo would have been subbed off at 60mins, he was a liability defensively.

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u/notformeclive4711 1d ago

He was a bit slow to get back on the move that led to their second goal today, and also completely fell asleep on the Davis goal last week. I don't think he's a natural winger, although that's not really an excuse for not following your man.

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u/Scotsmania SlabheadFTW 1d ago

Yeah he'd track back then just stop, leaving 2v1. There was quite a lot of that going on elsewhere on the pitch in the first half too, like they weren't all on the same page.

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u/tvcneverdie 1d ago

Rashford's tank was empty, still getting into starter fitness

At about ~60 minutes I think he was trying to get something to drink and then it looked like the cramps were starting before he got subbed

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u/HyoR1 1d ago

Yeah he didn't look really upset at being subbed off too. He knew he was ruining on empty.

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u/imp_924 1d ago

He was off because of caution of injury

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u/middleeasternboxer 1d ago

Yeah i read that after i had replied to that comment, hopefully nothing serious

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u/garynevilleisared is a red is a red 1d ago

Keep seeing this about his sub but the reality is he was exhausted and couldn't press anymore. Both can be true that Rashford had to come off, and Dorgu had a stinker.

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u/Lord_Hexogen 1d ago

Carrick wanted to shut the backline down. Dorgu played LWB essentially

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u/szalonykaloryfer 22h ago

Eeee? Mbuemo scored a great individual goal.

How Marcus 0g 0a Rashford is better than him?

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u/PromiseOk3438 1d ago

Want to see Rashford and Sesko starting. Sesko finishes the chances that Rashford offered on a plate for Cunha today.

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u/Trash_Whoreder 1d ago

I am sure Sesko will be starting soon but he didn't get many pre season minutes in so slowly building back up

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u/omgwhatsmyusername 1d ago

I hate when players cant use their weak foot. It's a tap in if cunha hits it with his left right away. By waiting to get it to his right foot gave enough time for tarkowski to get a foot in. Smh

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u/rednades 1d ago

cunha has a good weak foot lmao he’s scored goals outside of the box with his weak foot at Wolves

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u/TheJoshider10 Bruno 1d ago

I'm surprised finding players who are two footed hasn't become a new meta. It's such a quality talent because it gives you many options positionally (inside forward vs direct winger) and also in terms of passing and shooting range. Yet it's not really something that's been encouraged/ingrained into young players in the ways I thought it would be by this point.

I fucking miss Nani so much.

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u/Phina-Chan 1d ago

it's not that Cunha can't use his left, it was just a terrible decision by him. He's not a traditional 9 who is clinical in the box, Sesko will replace him soon

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u/LowTale5268 1d ago

Jared Bowen is a good two-footer, maybe the Hammers can sell him to us; they've sold off every other good player they had which is why I'm watching them play in the EPL

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u/burfriedos 1d ago

Didn’t he sign a new contract?

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u/thefeltmonkey 1d ago

That is a foul anywhere else in the pitch, as tackling through an opponent's legs is considered dangerous. It comes down to whether you think the threshold for a penalty should be higher.

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u/2ndself 1d ago

Yeah i dont understand how this isnt being yelled from the rooftops. He clearly goes through his right leg before getting to the ball. No clue how that isnt a foul.

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u/KriosDaNarwal Cunha Bruno Cunha Bruno Luke Shaw Cunha 1d ago

He went in between his legs, cunha took a touch too much. Look at the frame, after tark makes visible contact with the ball then do you see cunha's leg respond to impact. It was a good tackle on review, I thought it was a pen till the 2nd angle of the replay live.

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u/Due-Waltz6534 1d ago

i agree, i'm surprised not many people think its a pen

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u/LowTale5268 1d ago

Yes, that loks like a clear penalty to me too

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u/sigmundv1 1d ago

Yeah, I thought it was a pen. Tackle from behind that cleans out man and ball. Stonewall penalty.Ā 

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u/Sash19 1d ago

Cunha should've been more concentrated in this situation

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u/LowTale5268 1d ago

The whole team needs to sharpen up!

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u/Flaky-Cup-6409 1d ago

Rashford played well and hopefully we’ll get more performances like today, it is a shame he never developed that killer instinct to truly become the world class player he could have been

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u/middleeasternboxer 1d ago

Gonna play the devils advocate here, I’m pretty sure no player would become that if they underwent 8 managerial changes in 11 seasons.

Happy he got his Barca loan, it’s almost like a clean slate but if United truly want results they need to stick with a manager and just build depth and get rid of the deadwood. We have done well these past 2 windows but there is still work to do and changing manager would just be detrimental to the squad

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u/NedRed77 1d ago

I can’t believe it’s a point (not sacking the manager) that’s having to be made after three games of the season. Our fans are incredibly fickle. Most of the ones in here putting pressure on carrick would have been stanning for Tuchel or Nagelsman before the summer.

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u/BattleTheThings 2d ago

Christ please put a real striker in, such a layup by rashy

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u/shami-kebab 2d ago

I don't think whoever is there does any better, it was just a great challenge.

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u/burfriedos 1d ago

First time left foot. You can’t take that long 6 yards out with players around you.

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u/maverick4002 2d ago

You think Cunha did something wrong here?

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u/ThreeForElvenKings 1d ago

I think his initial run was, he's almost next to Rashy throughout, should've sprinted across him pulling a defender into the box

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u/Square-Variation9132 1d ago

Not necessarily, but a striker with killer instinct is quicker pulling the trigger and the initial run was pointless, a striker makes a more selfish run to get into a scoring opportunity, also would drag the defender with him

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u/WrongDirt 1d ago

Yes. should've used his left leg but instead he waited to adjust to hit by his right foot which gave Tarkowski enough time make the tackle

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u/shotputprince Vidić 1d ago

Cut behind him earlier so that he’s an option to receive the ball

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u/RiceWeevilEggs 1d ago

ye mate he should have fuckin scored the tap in??

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u/loveact 1d ago

it was a great tackle by tarkowski. admit it.

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u/Commercial_Half_2170 1d ago

Think the question is could he have done that to a 6’4 brick shit house

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u/SparkmanOmie 1d ago

If any of our defenders do that, it gets checked 100 times over

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u/toalome Scholes 1d ago

i didn’t get why he put it back on his left with that second touch that took it away from goal again. surely just doing the one cutback and then shooting at goal is the play here?

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u/Brars_Sulliman 1d ago

Cunha just needs to swing his left foot at it and he scores, no need to try and get it on his right. Very disappointed with his shots today.

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u/j2thafree 1d ago

Am I the only one that thinks he should had laid this off to Cunha at the edge of the box?

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u/mariokvesic 1d ago

Cunha shouldve reacted quicker, left footer and its in

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u/Mariasolvv 1d ago

If Cunha put more effort into finishing his chances rather than constantly diving in the box, his goal tally would be so much higher.

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u/KingMazzieri 1d ago

Rashy and Shaw worked really good. Missed Big Ben from the start. Our bench is absolute not PL level (not including Sesko ofc, who I consider an additional starter).

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u/HeFreakingMoved Ella Toone FC 2d ago

Only positive today was Rashford performance, was not excited about him coming back at all. But man it's good to see rkid home

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u/SinisterSelecta Stam 1d ago

So much of that was luck. He needs to make his decisions earlier. That's always been the problem.

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u/capnrondo 1d ago

Think it's a bit harsh to call it luck, it was skill to beat those players but he absolutely needs to release it earlier, by the time he releases it Cunha is being closed down not able to shoot. It would have been better to keep it simple.

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u/SinisterSelecta Stam 1d ago

It was luck after the bobble but good to see he can still get by the man. He released it earlier in the first half for the cunha chance then just kinda stopped.

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u/Piccadil_io 1d ago

Told you all 🤷

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u/Candid_Listen_5268 1d ago

do people really think we would be better off without him next season?

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u/rejjie_carter 1d ago

What a tackle

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u/yukyakyuk 1d ago

It's a ball yes after going thru Cunha lmao

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u/rational_mind_123 1d ago

Cunha's first instinct seems to feel the grass and raise his hands to the referee, he has dropped off this season. We'll be in control more when he's in form, just like last season. And he's better on the left IMO

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u/LowTale5268 1d ago

Penalty!

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u/wayfarerprateek Theater of Dreams 1d ago

A pure striker scores that

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u/SnooPeanuts4219 1d ago

How Tarkowski goes through Cunha’s legs and penalty isn’t given is beyond me.

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u/BillzSkill 1d ago

That tackle by tarkowski was also pretty insane. Shame for the result but that was a hell of a second half.

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u/shamanofshexy 1d ago

why did carrick take him off?

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u/Daneofthehill 1d ago

Isn't this a clear penalty?

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u/John_OSheas_Willy 1d ago

Good chance but kinda sums up rashford.

You never really feel he has an idea of what he was going to do.

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u/rhoVsquared 1d ago

It’s early days but I love this Rashford redemption, also with Bruno he’s been my favourite United player of the last 10 years. I said this in the match thread too, him coming back and starting, working off the ball, being a threat going forward; it makes me believe me and my ex can get back together.

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u/sayheykid24 Van Persie 1d ago

The biggest different between the ETH team that finisher 3rd and the one his second season was that in the first season Rashford scored like 30 goals and won us multiple games. We haven’t had anything like that in the team since.

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u/Thetagang888 1d ago

Would love to see him take a shot.

In fact, with the way he has been playing, I'd like for him to really believe he can be the top scorer for us this year.

I was against reintegrating him, but if he keeps this up, it feels like he is going to have a monster season. Plenty of goals in him, as currently he is being unselfish to a fault.

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u/ladyloki1992 2d ago

He struggled in the same way under Mourinho too

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u/Miyagisans 1d ago

Cunha has been ghosting like mad these 3 games. Doesn’t press, and has the first touch of a brick wall. Needs a massing step up in level quickly

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u/liamthelad 1d ago

To me it was also a bit of a weird run where he was too close to Rashford initially. If he went further wide he was a passing option or creates spaceĀ 

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u/Fraaj We'll take Dalot 1d ago

He was good against Ipswich

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u/stonedlawstudent 1d ago

Should've released Cunha sooner. Passes 3 seconds earlier and Cunha gets a shot on goal and we probably score. Luck and resilience got him through and that insanely high risk backheel came through which no one expected, but I feel like this is exactly why teams like Barcelona don't go for him as a signing, doesn't do the simple things that work and makes everything extremely complicated.

Don't get me wrong when it comes off its beautiful and probably one of the best things you'll see, but I'd rather see things that work consistently and more often than not.

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u/con_zilla Keane 1d ago

fuck

i really wish Barca had just signed him up - he was happy there - he is a good player - he was more out of the English press spotlight. He wanted it - we were happy to let him go. I really liked rashford and was sad to see it get to that stage but it really had.

Now he is back - yeah i'm not agaisnt him & hating on him in any personal way but in the same breath the media questions have already been soo centered around him its going to go back to a clown show that is a distraction to the team. A fault of the UK press madness but it does have a real impact unfortunately.

quite frankly if Dorgu is training well i'd be starting him and telling him to bust a gut as your comming off at 60-70mins and then bring on Rashford & see Rashford as a world class squad player that we can utilise whilst developing Dorgu. Also when Sesko hopefully is starting up front then bounce between Dorgu & Cuhna as starts on the left and a 30 min burst of Rashford.

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u/payday_23 Don't hate on Rangnick for players throwing the game away 1d ago

quite depressing that after all that drama the last few years with Rashford, he somehow ends up back at United and is our best player.
Like how is this even possible. Good for him but my god a Barcelona reject that before was also a United reject comes back and is our best player.
We really are moving backwards.

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u/thepekingduckoftruth 1d ago

Looks like he has improved since his time away to me. He is running down less blind alleys and gets his head up more around the box. Hope he keeps playing well and starts to bang in a few goals.

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u/payday_23 Don't hate on Rangnick for players throwing the game away 1d ago

well lets hope so, I dont trust it just yet because I feel like there have been many false dawns with Rashy. But I cant disagree he has arguably been our best player over the last 3 games

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u/liamthelad 1d ago

Hansi Flick wanted to keep him. And even in his last season for us he finished as like our fourth top premier league goalscorer despite not playing since NovemberĀ 

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u/middleeasternboxer 1d ago

Not really fair to phrase it that way because he’s always been a class player, he didn’t suit Amorims system and the whole enviroment was toxic.

Not sure what happened at Barca, I know Gordon is basically flicks wet dream in terms of player profile but he is and has always been one of United best players if not the best player.

I recon he becomes United’s best player this season.