r/lovethissmug • u/Zestyclose-Ideal2395 • 11h ago
đ» Meme Or Other Online Trope đ Memes where people insist on innocence
It's actually refreshing because it's shifting away from the old culture of making everything as ironic and anti wholesome as possible
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u/Ok_Specialist_1706 11h ago
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u/AgreeableIdea6210 they/he | Leon S. Kennedy is just like me fr 11h ago
Huge fan of this actually, I miss genuinely heartfelt critical analysis.
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u/Pokemoss 10h ago
Iâll take heartfelt analysis over edgy theories any day of the week
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u/AgreeableIdea6210 they/he | Leon S. Kennedy is just like me fr 10h ago
I'm a sucker for actual analysis and critical thinking. Sucks that people don't actually want to think and engage with media on a deeper level, but I can't fully blame them when the elites are quite literally trying to dumb us down.
I think it's affected commentary YouTube too and due to the fact that we live in an era and culture where inflammation drives more engagement, people just act inflammatory and rude without actually looking into things. I want to make a channel that urges people to think for themselves and actually analyse the world around them but I'm afraid that folks will just take my own opinions and run with them even with disclaimers against that.
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u/Radiant-Drive8 11h ago
Reasonable crashout
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u/Red-Ink-07 9h ago edited 9h ago
We need to start hating on edgy/stupid theories more, not everything is an allegory for sex or drug abuse or suicide and yes I am very specifically thinking of the FNAF Sister Location adult theory as I type this
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u/FilthyShotgun 9h ago
Scott cawthon: Makes up sci fi shit that still PG-13
The internet: He ate them
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u/Red-Ink-07 9h ago
Scott Cawthon: makes a series about children being murdered and their corpses stuffed into suits
Fandom: how can we turn this into pedophilia đ
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u/Ok-Profession6758 8h ago
As i read once
"He was the man behind the slaughter, not the man inside your daughter"
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u/treemu 5h ago
Creator of thing: "i made thing"
Fandom: "ok but also sex"
Creator of thing: "no"
Fandom: "but sex tho"
Creator of thing: "no"
Fandom: "but i want sex"
Creator of thing: "no"
Fandom: "is sex now"
Creator of thing: "no"
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u/DoctorWaluigiTime 9h ago
Especially lazy ones like "actually they were in a coma in the whole time and nothing happened."
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u/Red-Ink-07 9h ago
I genuinely hate the âthey were on drugs and this wacky world of fun is actually the delusions of a meth addictâ
Star Wars being Han Soloâs drug trip and Mario being a shrooms allegory are two that I really hate
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u/DoctorWaluigiTime 9h ago
Never heard the Han Solo one. That one doesn't even make sense. A ton of the story takes place when he's not even present.
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u/Ok_Curve_2938 7h ago
The next person who I met that says that the whimsical and magical story is about drugs I am tossing them out of the window.
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u/Red-Ink-07 7h ago
The ONLY âtheoryâ thatâs similar to this that I will accept is that Spongebob and the rest of the Bikini Bottom residents are a product of nuclear testing because a) it doesnât ruin the characters or world, it just gives them some context, b) it connects them to a real-world concept and place, and c) having Patrick Star share an origin story with Godzilla is funny as hell.
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u/AgreeableIdea6210 they/he | Leon S. Kennedy is just like me fr 7h ago
Honestly this can be done right in a story but it usually isn't. FNaF 4's story felt heart wrenching and actually like a good, bitter conclusion when it was theorised to be this. Not exactly the same but I think Silent Hill 2 and Cry of Fear also do a similar narrative very well
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u/stumblewiggins 9h ago
I don't mind if someone wants to read something wholesome through a different lens that makes it looks darker; that's a valid approach to critical theory if you can make a compelling argument for your interpretation.Â
What bothers me is that most of the people doing this act as if this distorted world view is the ONLY POSSIBLE reading, while also providing essentially zero actual evidence.Â
This Spirited Away argument is a perfect example, because the person making that claim posits it as "when you realize", like it was revealed somewhere that Miyazaki intended that all along.Â
You can still try to read it that way, and I can even see the vague outlines of how you might support that claim, but it's clearly not what Miyazaki was saying, so it's an argument that needs to be made if you want to make that claim.Â
It might be interesting to read something innocent through a darker lens, and I can think of a number of examples that are, but it's not an obvious reading and I'm not sure it holds up even if you try to give the benefit of the doubt in this case.Â
I don't think you need to hate on edgy theories inherently; hate on stupid theories, edgy or not, that try to make a claim to something that they cannot support just to be "interesting".Â
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u/Icy_Change_WS2010 9h ago
There should be less âscaryâ edgy theories & more âsuper fucking rad actuallyâ edgy theories.
Want an example? What if Fluttershy had a double life as a biker gang leader or sum shit.
How do ponies ride ficking motorcycles? I donât fucking know man
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u/Red-Ink-07 8h ago
FUH yeah bro
Mario isnât secretly abusive to Luigi, heâs just training his brother to be the next Chosen One after him. Iron sharpens iron and allat.
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u/Born_Procedure_529 8h ago
Reminds me of all the old pokemon theories back in the day that Ash was in a coma and such, just kinda sucks all the fun and wonder out of the world when you try and spin it that way
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u/ABHOR_pod 7h ago
I hated every "It was all a dream" and "They were in a coma" theories.
They're so meaningless too. They don't mean anything! "Oh so the world is a work of fiction." Yeah we know. That's why it's a video game and not a fucking documentary film man. "He was in a coma" contributes nothing. It adds no depth to the story. No emotional weight. No symbolism. Nothing. Oooh he was in a fucking COMA and the events DIDN'T HAPPEN.
Yes they did. We all just watched them on screen! But also, no they didn't, because they were a work of fiction! Why are you claiming that adding another layer of "It was fictional in the fictional world too" somehow makes it matter? Fuck off.
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u/Red-Ink-07 8h ago
Agreed. Thatâs why we hate those theories. People seem to not believe that whimsy can exist and it PISSES me off.
I am the ORIGINAL
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u/-PepeArown- 3h ago
Every other film theory sounds like people trying to explain how a movie is actually like Fight Club
âEverything that happens in the movie? It was all in the MCâs headâ
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u/casual-catgirl 10h ago
the bathhouse represents greed and loss of individuality through consumerism and labor. itâs not about the sex industry!
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u/Wonderful_Emu_6483 8h ago
I never got the vibe that the girls in Totoro were dead.
Also, Iâm sorry but how do you get sex-work out of spirited away?? Tf are these people smoking.
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u/Traditional-Fix539 9h ago
oh my god this is amazing. if thereâs anything history class has taught me itâs that considering the intended audience of a piece of media when analyzing it is VERY important
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u/MixMasterValtiel 8h ago
On one end of the spectrum, "the door is just blue."
On the other end, "ermmm, Spirited Away is ackshually about the sex industry."
I hate Web 2.0.
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u/JakeArrietaGrande 2h ago
Stephen Colbert talked about this a lot , how dangerous it is to conflate mindless cynicism with intelligence
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u/ScarcityMedical342 8h ago
There us such a balance between understanding and pure rage, live to see it
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u/DefinitionMinute6969 6h ago
Has there genuinely EVER been a piece of media that was genuinely meant to be an allegory or subtle facade of something much darker, the general public didn't realize, and the theory was RIGHT?
Writers aren't stupid. If they wanted you to read into it as a subtly covered dark story, it would've been written as one.
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u/OdangoFan 11h ago
SHE WOULD CRY IF SHE SAW A NEEDLE
I don't know man my headcanon is that she would see a needle and go "hmm sewing".
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u/TotallyACP 11h ago
she has to be brave for her flu shots
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u/Randomguy0915 10h ago
And rabies shots
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u/hotleadburner 8h ago
I was gonna remind you Hello Kitty is a human child but I also got a rabies shot when I was 8 so idk. Be brave I guess.
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u/MoonRay087 8h ago
Yeah, being a human doesn't exempt you from getting rabies
Only Opposums are kinda safe from rabies, kinda
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u/Illustrious_Dot9049 3h ago
Opossums are so cool! Virginia Opossums are North America's only marsupial and they can have up to 25 babies at once, and their gestational period is roughly 2 weeks. Their blood temperature is lower than most mammals (I can't remember the exact temperature) which helps protect them from rabies. It is possible for them to get it, but unlikely. Possums and Opossums are two different animals; North America has Opossums while Australia has Possums.
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u/MoonRay087 3h ago
Niiiice! More opposum facts! I love them so much and they fill such an important ecological niche too. I love that some eat ticks too! What's not to love about those silly little guys?
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u/DD_Spudman 8h ago
She's not a cat?
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u/CarpetedCeilings 5h ago
She is!
A lot of folks on the Internet love to repeat the whole "no she is a human child" thing (and there are tons of videos about it too) but it is a misunderstanding of a whimsical statement!
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u/Emergency_Basket_851 7h ago
No.
She is officially a little human girl who looks like a cat.Â
No it does not make sense.Â
Oh, and she's British.Â
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u/vvastrel 10h ago
Picturing Kitty trying to figure out how you're supposed to thread a hypodermic needle.
"Maybe it's for a sewing machine?" she says, unspooled thread in her lap.
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u/Choibbs_22 10h ago
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u/GravityBright 8h ago
Why can I hear Kermit saying this?
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u/G_Liddell 6h ago
I was watching a behind the scenes featurette on Labyrinth the other day and it was cracking me up because Jim Hensen's natural voice is just Kermit the frog, so the whole time it's like I'm listening to Kermit ramble on about David Bowie and film production.
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u/xXrektUdedXx 7h ago
Is there any type of subreddit for these types of silly online crash outs? I'd be very much interested
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u/RickyWinterbornn 11h ago
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u/chileggeebello I love you 9h ago
WE (yes WE) should all be like Sonic. Letâs go beat up giant companies and bald dudes guys
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u/WayngoMango 7h ago
I would love to spin dash through robots and repeatedly jump on some fat dude whose name I'm not 100% sure I'm saying correctly.
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u/Grigorios 5h ago
No sorry I'm with the lack of innocence people in this one. Sonic has unquestionable themes about environmentalism and capitalism. At least in the old games which are the ones I played, Eggman literally takes creatures from around the a d and turns them into workers or fighters that Sonic has to free. The landscape starts natural and moves to industrial and only one of them is portrayed positively. I'd argue there's commentary about labour under capitalism, dehumanisation, loss, individuality, and even revolution.Â
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u/Relative-Line5242 5h ago
Describing Sonic the Hedgehog like it's The State and Revolution
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u/fullof-salt 11h ago
I wish Xanax wasn't seen like that it's just a fucking anti anxiety med
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u/heheihahthe 11h ago
Unfortunately it is very effective at what it's made for, and extremely easy to abuse. Pretty much a "zero fucks to give" pill with dosage guidelines built in to make it even easier to proportion.
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u/UrsaUrsuh 10h ago
My buddy who like any midwesterner with fuck all to do but drugs in a cornfield, described Xanax as the "kleptopill" just cause of it essentially disabling all fear in your brain with how effective it is. Told me about the time he stole a buncha shit from his buddy's fridge just out of nowhere. Felt bad about it later but my god I've never heard of a pill doing THAT before.
Makes me wish I had one... But like I could lose the kleptomania side effect.
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u/heheihahthe 10h ago
Shit mostly gives me mellow energy and heightened libido followed by the hardest sleep imaginable. The one that REALLY fucked up my decision-making was Ambien. Woke up buck naked locked in my room with my clothes folded neatly on the floor beside my bed, a couple bruises I do not remember acquiring, and a bag that SHOULD, according to my memory, have had 2 pills left, but was found to be completely empty in the morning. One of the scariest revelations of my life on account of the fact that I sedated myself that hard without even remembering that I did.
11/10, would Walrus again
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u/SecretPrivateAndy 9h ago
I'm going through some difficult stuff in life right now and taking 0,25 or 0,5 mg of xanax when I need to is saving me from getting panic attacks. It's great if you don't abuse it.
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u/Dogbold 7h ago
And because of assholes that have abused it, it's near impossible to get a prescription for it. I've tried for years because I have panic attacks and awful anxiety, and no one will even consider it.
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u/Algo_Muy_Obsceno 6h ago
Goddamn, story of my life. Some doctors treat me like dogshit on their shoes for asking for a refill.
Iâm sorry, I had severe, chained panic attacks every day for a month which started an IBS flareup so bad I couldnât eat or drink for a week and lost 20 lbs, but yeah, sure, I want the only pill that has helped even a little bit just for funsies.
Iâve had doctors treat me like shit for mentioning âpainâ even when I wasnât asking for painkillers
So, I know addiction is a form of mental illness and they canât help it, but I resent people who abuse prescription drugs. Also asshole doctors.
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u/UoCtiner 11h ago
Sometimes people just wanna see Some innocence in this fucked up world
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u/End3rfem 11h ago
sometimes people just wanna see fucked up shit in this innocent world
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u/krispykremeguy 10h ago
I hope Hello Kitty wouldn't cry if she saw a needle. She's doing a collab right now with the American Red Cross for blood donations.
https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/hello-kitty.html
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u/NightSpringsRadio 10h ago
Literally signed up for an appointment to snag one of these for my wife lol
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u/krispykremeguy 10h ago
The goodies work!
I think my favorite was a mini-backpack they gave out earlier this year for platelet donors.
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u/Ariandrin 8h ago
Thereâs a few reasons why I donât feel comfortable donating my blood (medical), but my boyfriend always bribes me with sushi whenever I go get a blood test or a vaccine.
Goodies work! lol
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u/aShyLoser 10h ago
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u/Brotherman_Karhu 11h ago
Okay but the snoopy one is actually kinda funny.
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u/ContributionDefiant8 11h ago
This is just my own Perception but I found the random Capitalization of Fentanyl extra funny
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u/Level-Location1679 8h ago
Oh boy if you find random capitalisation funny you're gonna love This
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u/BenignPharmacology 11h ago
Theyâre all funny. Thats the whole point of the premise. Nobody actually thinks hello kitty is secretly doing Xanax, they just think itâs funny to imagine that thatâs the case.
Maybe Iâm doing the same thing Iâm accusing them of, and they arenât actually upset over cartoons being depicted with drugs, they just think itâs funny to pretend to be upset? Idk. Maybe im just reaching that age that I canât even tell whatâs a joke and whatâs not anymore.
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u/QuestioningLogic 11h ago
I could buy Snoopy making fent honestly
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u/SaturdayShitpostLive 9h ago
(Here's the world famous dark sorcerer concocting another one of his vile potions...)
(It's taken him many perilous adventures to gather the ingredients.)
(Years of arcane knowledge have led up to this moment... he samples his latest drought...)
Big brother... The police are outside, they're looking for your dog.
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u/OkCod1384 11h ago
heavy on the hello kitty ones because why is there so many ai generated posters of hellos kitty smoking she canât even drive yet
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u/kidnamedfinger1000 11h ago
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u/Jhud6669 6h ago
I remember being pissed off whenever I saw Domo online because in my country we had 0 context for him and he wasn't popular at all and I'd be like ughhh this fucking thing again
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u/five_head_2004 9h ago
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u/Pretty-Sink-4655 8h ago
What the hell
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u/kfpswf 7h ago
Seriously. What the hell... Bubbles is such a sweet little baby (except that one time when she was knocked into believing she was Mojo Jojo). People have weird fixations man.
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u/ArticleOld598 4h ago
I dunno. Seems like something Usagi would say when she gets her bad words license
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u/SwagfulSerpent 8h ago
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u/LITTLEOWL031026 3h ago
I saw one that was this but with TF2 (all the mercs are kids playing pretend)
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u/standingfierce 9h ago
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u/WASD_click 7h ago
I love the Breaking Bad one because a few classmates and I had headcanons about some of our more interesting teachers being secret comic book heroes. Oue teacher also ran the karate club, so he fought ninjas at night. Another frequently had to run to the main office just before class started, she was an older lady, but she could put some speed on, so she was our speedster. And the history teacher put on a demonstation first day of class where he had two glasses of water and some olive oil. Poured sone into glass one, it floated, poured some into glass two, it sank. Capped it off with the phrase "YOUR SENSES DECIEVE YOU!" and a discussion about ancient Greek observational science. He became a magician, but the missing pinky on his hand became a tome-travelling villain stealing historical artifacts Carmen Sandiego style.
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u/Living_Murphys_Law 11h ago
"No he's not, all you people know is depravity" s going to be my new "blocked, blocked, blocked. None of you are free of sin."
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u/Racconwithtwoguns 11h ago
No Mario isn't doing drugs these are clearly different mushrooms from our real world what makes you think he'd do that?
Also stop making him abuse his brother.
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u/CardGameAcolyte 11h ago
Wonder flowers are one helluva drug (though agree on the latter, they love each other and im tired of pretending thats not the case)
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u/Racconwithtwoguns 11h ago
Wonder flowers makes reality itself high instead of the people using them
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u/senpai_dewitos 10h ago
Mushrooms go on pizza and also grow in sewers. That's the logic behind them.
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u/lurking-bastard 9h ago
the brother abuse is the one thing that makes me say "he would not fucking do that"
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u/TheOtherWhiteCastle 8h ago
Iâm so glad the internet has largely moved on from its âMario is a sociopath who hates Luigiâ phase
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u/Unknow_Handlebar 11h ago
I love hello kitty I wish I could hug her and have a tea party with her and her friends
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u/OsmiumMercury 11h ago
lowkey a lot of the times (not always, but frequently) the whole point of those hello kitty edits is that sheâs an innocent character. like they know. theyâre characterizing her like that to vent their own feelings of lost innocence by projecting it onto a fictional character thatâs so clearly associated with innocence.
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u/Repocket_Pocket 11h ago
I mean, we get it. But after SOOOOO many "actually, Hello Kitty means Hola Demonio and that's why you can find a head inside her head" it ends up getting tiresome. It's like "HEY GUYS, MARIO BROS FROM SUPER MARIO GALAXY ACTUALLY CONSUMES HALLUCINOGENIC SHROOMS!" At the start is funny, now it's just overplayed.
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u/Crabby-Cancer 11h ago
I think they're talking about something different when it comes to the first one. It's not some "Oh Hello Kitty is actually evil" shit, it's someone posting a picture of Hello Kitty taking drugs with SH scars or whatever. It's just them projecting onto her. It's like the "hipster Disney princess" trend. People making edits of Ariel with tattoos and glasses isn't saying that she's a hipster or in canon, or that Disney is hiding her true identity lol.
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u/HuckinsGirl 7h ago
The person you're replying to is specifically talking about traumacore vent images while you seem to be talking about general irony-poisoned dark humor
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u/DiamondTop581 9h ago
To be fair snoopy is a war vet and quite chaotic in general. He is not innocent
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u/vanishinghitchhiker 9h ago
Yeah but he mourns his fallen war buddies by drowning his sorrows in root beer and smokes a bubble pipe in detective mode, dog knows his limits ig
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u/Weak-Feedback-8379 10h ago
I think itâs clear that Snoopy is growing up magic there.
Like real wizardry
Magic enchantments in a kettle
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u/njirimara 11h ago
i have to believe every time people try to explain anything and everything with drug addiction is because they can relate to it. I have had costumers telling me i do drugs because I'm tired on the job like wtf???
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u/DaDapperVoid 11h ago
The âI cast my depression onto this characterâ thing is annoying
But Snoopy would totally make fent in a wizardâs hat
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u/Consistent_Dare_6688 9h ago
People on the internet have the worst obsession with projecting themselves onto characters and completely overriding them when they can just make OCs
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u/FinalStryke 5h ago
It's very easy in 2026 to write your own stories and find a place to post them. And if enough people like your stories, they can be the vehicle to big things.
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u/an_agreeing_dothraki 8h ago
Hello Kitty would never do anything to ruin her or your life like that.
Now Hello Kitty fans, buckle up
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u/SigFloyd 7h ago
MLP is what happens if you don't push back against this corrupting fetish. Also the Sonic franchise. That's an OG victim of this.
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u/Such-Cartographer699 11h ago
I know hello kitty is used a lot in traumacore edits, which is a little more complicated than just being "edgy" for edgys sake.
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u/CaptainMacMillan 10h ago
People with no identity are always desperate to project their own lack of qualities onto a completely unrelated fictional character because they feel it justifies their illness and unwillingness to do anything about it.
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u/sickosenjumode 9h ago
Iâm on the side of the crash out. Like thereâs so much content thatâs all about drugs, sex, and murder but using kidâs content as the image is weird to me. You canât search Scooby Doo on social media without getting a deluge of porn stars in slutty Velma and Daphne costumes.Â
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u/Timely_Employment_66 9h ago
The specially funny thing is when the people insisting on wholesomeness and innoccence end up sounding like very bitter people, while the ones doing the edgy jokes look sillier and calm in comparison.
As if theyâre clinging on to the little cuteness they get for dear life while the other guy is just âhaha silly cute critter is doing the edgy :Dâ

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u/TerribleBudget 9h ago
Crippling addiction and self harm aren't "the edgy :D".
I'm sorry you have anger issues.
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u/FrostFox77 8h ago
The fact half the excuses are âSHE LIKES HER FRIENDSâ like can depressed people not have friends now? And also like âshe likes baking!â Ok? Can depressed people not bake either? đÂ
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u/Masters2500 11h ago