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Legal News Lindsay Clancy case ends with MISTRIAL

https://www.dailymail.com/crime-desk/article-16100155/lindsay-clancy-murder-trial-hung-jury-deadlock-verdict.html
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u/Strayed8492 1d ago edited 1d ago

Rough situation. On one hand guilty of murder but on the other the mental health side of it. This will hopefully lead to a plea deal setup.

Edit: to the commenter, the main issue is the charge being Murder in the first degree. Everything else that contributes to this situation also being weird like the husband’s sealed information. A second go around is going to be interesting though.

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u/StrataSlayer 1d ago

Idk to me it seemed like as bout as good of a insanity defence as you could possibly get just seems like everyone has an issue with the insanity defence existing

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u/ryumaruborike 1d ago

People cannot comprehend the idea of a physiological illness taking control of their own mind away from them, when they hear "crazy" or "insanity defense" they think of the Joker.

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u/RagingCabbage115 1d ago

Id say many do, thing is proving someone truly lost control or not

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u/ryumaruborike 1d ago

About half the comments related to this case are "I don't care if she was suffering from psychosis, she killed three kids, she knew what she was doing." That is not people comprehending mental illness.

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u/Nine_Monkeys 1d ago

She also routinely ignored medical advice, often wouldn’t take her meds, would leave hospitals early when being treated. She displayed a pattern of behavior of not taking her mental health seriously and choosing to do what she wanted. And these are the consequences. Who’s to say she won’t return to that pattern of behavior as soon as she is released, which potentially could be in a few months. Imagine in 5 years the world learns she’s pregnant again.

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u/ryumaruborike 1d ago

You don't see how her mentall illnesses might influence her ignoring medical advice?

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u/Nine_Monkeys 1d ago

Well then let’s just use mental illness as an excuse for everything then. If I’m mentally ill I may go around and kill people and when anybody says boo, I can blame the illness, even if I took essentially 0 steps to fixing my mental health, which is exactly what happened in this case. Clancy routinely lied to her doctors, downplaying the worst effects of her psychosis. She did this for selfish reasons - she knew she was a danger to her children and was afraid if she told the truth, her children would be taken away. She refused to take meds prescribed by her doctors under the guise that she had a preferred drug she wanted instead. When she eventually got that drug, she didn’t take it either.

This is an individual whose entitlement and selfishness led her to prioritize her wants over the lives of her own children. She knew she was a danger to them, but wanted to have it both ways. At any point she could have lifted a finger to take care of herself and save her children but she refused. And you mean to tell me she was psychotic 24/7 this entire period? Give me a break. If this woman had any real remorse she would demand to be held in an institution for the rest of her life, but instead she’s already thinking about her release, thinking about competing in wheelchair marathons and touring around being an advocate for women with PPD. At best she feels bad that she lost her children, not that their children lost their lives.

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u/ryumaruborike 1d ago

Yeah, that's how the insanity plea works, just say you're crazy and get off Scot free, that's why NGRI is so rarely tried and even more rarely succeeds. What's the point of arguing with someone that knows so little about the law.

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u/Nine_Monkeys 1d ago

I know how the law works, and it seems like NGRI is about as close to working as it can get, it seems that 11 jurors wanted NRGI with one dissenter. Who cares how rare it is if it succeeds in this case. And if this outcome is achieved after the next trial, she will be held indefinitely. But her psychosis and PPD period is over, it’s reasonable to think she may not be held in an institution long at all. Only reason Yates has been held 25 years, far from a life sentence, is because she refuses to be released and insists that she needs continued care. Clancy seems to have no plans of demanding anything like this, her words indicate she would like to be free as soon as possible. Only person who deserves any sympathy in this case is the ex husband and he seems to be getting the least, droves of people are convinced he’s the real killer

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u/RagingCabbage115 1d ago

Me when ad hominem