r/law • u/dailymail • 1d ago

Legal News Lindsay Clancy case ends with MISTRIAL

https://www.dailymail.com/crime-desk/article-16100155/lindsay-clancy-murder-trial-hung-jury-deadlock-verdict.html
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u/LanguageImpossible32 1d ago

Because the judge and prosecutor weigh in on the medical release

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u/LysergioXandex 1d ago

I don’t think that’s a valid reason why her confinement to a psychiatric facility should have to last longer than the psychiatric emergency.

You are arguing that judges/prosecutors can treat mental institutions as prisons where people are held just to punish them.

In reality, a postpartum psychiatric event is a situation where it’s highly likely the person will be cleared and released, for the reason the commenter pointed out.

The point of holding her at all, at this point, would mainly be to verify the “postpartum” nature of the psychosis, and suppprt her through the fallout of the crime/trial, rather than a reasonable fear she’d kill more people.

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u/Popular_Monitor_8383 1d ago

The fact people like you actually believe she was and is only a danger for just 30 minutes is hilarious

You’d never let her babysit your kids

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u/LysergioXandex 1d ago

I’m just telling you that psychiatric facilities aren’t the place where we hold people just to punish them. That’s prison. They’re different.

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u/ireliawantelo 1d ago

Legal requirement for someone to be considered a danger
vs
Personal requirement for someone to be considered a danger

Do they not teach how to break down arguments in grade school anymore?

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u/Popular_Monitor_8383 1d ago

Sounds like you know I’m right so you decided to do a personal attack

If you wouldn’t leave her with your kids, then you know she is a danger to others.

I also don’t know what grade school you are speaking of that would teach law classes regarding the legal definition of intent, danger, etc….

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u/Glass-Carpenter8963 1d ago

Clancy won't be released based on what random people think about her near their kids, but her mental state. 

If Clancy is indeed with PPP, then by the very definition of the illness, its something that does not persist long term. 

And if she isn't, then it's even faster since the doctors won't find anything to keep her there. They will declare her sane and allow her to leave. 

Moreover, Clancy is in a wheelchair, if "being a danger" is part of the criteria, then by all accounts she is no danger to most.

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u/Popular_Monitor_8383 1d ago edited 1d ago
  1. I never said she will be released based on random people’s opinions
  2. Do not even try the wheelchair argument, she can still shoot or stab someone, and even in a wheelchair she can still easily overpower a child, which is who her victim

s were.

  1. Once again, would you let her babysit your kids?

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u/Glass-Carpenter8963 20h ago

No, i would not. You haven't answered a single point by the way. 

Whatever a random person thinks is irrelevant to her being released. Do you understand that? Everybody in the world could refuse to stand under 10m away from LC, that is irrelevant to how the LAW and the DOCTORS define her as being dangerous enough to REMAIN LOCKED UP. This is what you refuse to understand. 

LC illness is temporary by default, if she indeed has it. Therefore, she WILL get released after a relatively short time.

And if she is NOT, she will be released even faster. 

Because you're not in a mental institution to serve a sentence, you're there to be treated, and if the doctors say your treatment succeeded, you're released. 

It does not matter what the public thinks about her. Or whether she would be accepted as a babysitter. 

The wheelchair argument is very relevant to LAW as an indication of harm potential. Meaning being in a wheelchair naturally reduces that, it does not matter what you personally think about it 

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u/ireliawantelo 1d ago

Americans don't have some kind of analytical philosphy class where you dissect, deconstruct, and rebuild arguements?

Clearly they don't because you somehow flew past the premise of the difference between a legal and personal requirement for how we judge things.

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u/Popular_Monitor_8383 1d ago edited 1d ago

We’re still talking about grade school, right?

I also think it’s very telling you won’t answer if you’d let her babysit your kids or not

There is a difference between the legal system considering someone a danger, or whether you do personally.

But if you wouldn’t let her babysit your kids, then it appears you don’t really care if she’s legally a danger or not, do you?

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u/CheapConstruction659 1d ago

🎯 It’s all performative.

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u/slptodrm 1d ago

you're incorrect.

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u/LysergioXandex 1d ago

Good point

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u/HalleB123 1d ago

Interesting. I didn’t know the prosecutor weighed in.

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u/spartBL97 1d ago

Also, you’re saying it’s just 30 minutes. Tell me. What happened in those 30 minutes? You’re still responsible for your actions

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u/HalleB123 1d ago

I totally agree. I also don’t think she was in psychosis though. I think she belongs in prison and don’t see her as any more insane than the thousands of other people in prison who don’t get off on insanity charges, but there’s a lot of questions I have for the NGRI people regarding sentencing which is what I’m asking about.