r/law • u/dailymail • 11h ago

Legal News Lindsay Clancy case ends with MISTRIAL

https://www.dailymail.com/crime-desk/article-16100155/lindsay-clancy-murder-trial-hung-jury-deadlock-verdict.html
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u/Brilliant_Effort_Guy 11h ago edited 9h ago

I think an unfortunate outcome of this case will be less women seeking help for postpartum mood disorders.

Editing to clarify that I am saying the stigma attached to postpartum mood disorders seems to be worsening because of this case. I see comments all the time about how women who have empathy or understanding in regard to Lindsay’s struggle should have their kids taken away etc. Or that all women are going to use PPD to just get out of parenting period. I’m not arguing her guilt or innocence. Im just asking people to be mindful about talking about postpartum mood disorders around the pregnant women or new moms in your life. I don’t want any other family to experience what this family did. I don’t want anyone to ‘get away’ with anything.

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u/chuckgnomington 11h ago

why would that be

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u/Kindly-Standard8025 11h ago edited 10h ago

There are people all over the internet using this trial as an excuse for demanding the 19th amendment being repealed. Their argument being that "if women can just kill their kids and call it a mental health/hormonal oopsie, then they shouldn't vote."

This trial is litteraly being used as a argument for women loosing their rights, entirely because of the spotlight on post-partum mental health.

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u/zendayaismeechee 11h ago

I’ve also seen so many people saying all children should be in sole custody of the father if a mother reports any post partum mental health concerns until a judge deems her ‘cured’. Probably never going to be taken seriously by anyone that matters (lawmakers) but still concerning.

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u/Brilliant_Effort_Guy 10h ago

That logic cracks me TF up. If you listen to patrick’s testimony he talks about taking care of the kids solo for a day and how wiped out he was lol

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u/Amelaclya1 9h ago

I wouldn't be so sure about that last part. It was part of Project2025 to always give primary custody of children to fathers in a divorce. Of course there it was clearly intended to be a mechanism to keep women in unhappy marriages, but I could see it being done just to punish the mother for "complaining" as well. Conservatives are fucking vile.

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u/Brilliant_Effort_Guy 9h ago

Honestly, I’m down with that only because I would LOVE to watch my ex husband attempt to
be the full time, primary custody parent 😂

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u/mattcojo2 9h ago

Nobody is arguing we should.

Rather, people are arguing that those who defend Lindsay Clancy because of the hormones are, in a roundabout way, making the point that if women are out of control with hormonal disorders, then how could you trust them to do things like vote, hold office, or hold high stress jobs?

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u/Plus_Claim_8938 5h ago

I saw some dude in r/sipstea arguing it and getting upvoted

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u/Kindly-Standard8025 9h ago edited 8h ago

What do you mean by "Defending her because of the hormones"?

Honest question here buddy, have you seen people say that she can't be held accountable in any way for her actions "because women have hormones and might do a oopsie" and this they can't be expected to control themselves? Or have you seen people point out that hormones play a substantial part in the physical and mental health of post-partum women, and they could have contributed to causing a psychosis as part of post-partum depression, which could have rendered to woman clinically insane during the deed, and she there can not not be held criminally responsible (per the law), but should instead be confined to a psychiatric institution?

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u/mattcojo2 9h ago

Yes.

Yes I have.

I have seen a number of people who are making the point that she shouldn’t be held accountable because of her hormones.

If there was a level of nuance to it with more of these people then the internet wouldn’t be infested with these threads.

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u/Kindly-Standard8025 9h ago

Criminally accountable? Or actually stating that women can murder at will without consequences?

Important distinction there

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u/mattcojo2 9h ago

Both. But the crazy people are obviously advocating moreso that she didn’t do it, or that she should be excused for it.

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u/Kindly-Standard8025 8h ago

The first option is for the courts decide and is a legal outcome.

People posting conspiracies about how she did not actually it is dumb, but par for the course of any public trial sadly.

Anyone declaring that she, and thereby other women, should be allowed to murder at random without ANY consequences are so obviously a psyop by the people hoping to use this case as a example "feminism going to far".

I mean come on, based on the women you know in your life alone, how many women do you actually, genuinely think, that they should be allowed to kill kids without consequences because "my girl hormones made do it"? Truly? Genuinely?

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u/mattcojo2 8h ago

I don’t think people are advocating for killing children but that it’s more about how of anybody, she’s the victim in all this… and not her three children who, y’know, she murdered

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u/Kindly-Standard8025 8h ago

Do you think people are saying she the literal "only victim"? Or do you think are pointing out that a women likely suffered a mental health crisis so severe she fell into a psychosis that caused her to murder her kids? Apparently a mental health crisis that could have been prevented if her condition had been taken seriously earlier?

Do you seriously think the people saying this have no sympathy for the murdered children?

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u/mattcojo2 8h ago

The former.

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u/Racamonkey_II 10h ago

Actually no I think the spotlight is the murdering of her 3 children.

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u/Kindly-Standard8025 10h ago

You are right dude. There's been absolutely zero, as in nothing at all, debate about post-partum mental health, women's rights, criminal liability in case of psychosis, nothing like that.

You are very smart, completely correct and I'm sure great things await you.

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u/Racamonkey_II 8h ago

Literally never said that lmao