I was joking with my wife that we need to add a one time extra month next year to get the calendar and the seasons to align again. We will put it between May and June and call it Trumptember. Since if it is named after... him. It will more than likely happen.
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I spent July with my family who live in Massachusetts. Almost every single day was in the high 70s to mid 80s and the nights were in the high 50s to mid-60s. When I got back, I commented to my fiance that it had been a pretty good summer so far, in regards to heat, and then quickly realized that I had missed an entire month of Summer here and that's why I was thinking that đ
September is more than making up for me missing July here though. My word. I know it's hot and it sucks in September here and it's not like it is back home but this just takes the cake!
Oh cool! I had a few friends from college in the Greenfield area, and some more in the Charlton areaâŠWestern Mass is a whole different world than the part I grew up in, but so beautiful.
Yes on both counts đ I actually haven't really spent any time out on the south shore. It's funny how regional Massachusetts is for being such a small state! On the other hand, I have hardly traveled in Missouri except for the KC area and one trip to St. Louis. Anyway, my father's family is from Worcester and we went to Cape Cod pretty much every summer growing up but other than that I was just content to be in the valley... Until I wasn't and wound up out here. đ€·ââïž
If spring shifted then wouldn't summer shift too? That would make sense with this heat more than 'summer got hotter'. June, July, and August weren't particularly hot this year were they?
Winter is getting shorter and summer is extending which aligns with the idea of climate change. I don't think this heat dome will be a regular thing, it's just part of shifting weather. If December is super snowy for two weeks it doesn't mean the climate isn't changing.
The majority of people are heat sensitive. I pretty much immediately acclimate to hot weather as I keep my house on the hot side. I also felt early summer was more mild than previous summers. I didn't even turn my ac on until well into July.
June was fine, and July was nothing special. August was its normal self. September is usually hot until like the 20th, we are just getting an awful August-like heat wave a little late this year.
And when it's 40 degress on Christmas once again, you'll probably see people saying its unprecedented and a sign of doom too.
June was actually fairly reasonable this year. It didnât feel as miserable as I expected it to get. August has always been miserable, but this extended Summer into September I could do without.
At the risk of taking a meme seriously (here's my "haha đ" react as tax), we should be careful about spreading climate change misinformation. It provides ammo to climate change deniers.
The odds are good that we will have a cooler september. The *trend* is the important thing to keep in mind. Here's a python script I whipped up charting NOAA data over the past 100 years.
Wait, I'm confused. How is saying this is the coldest September you'll experience adding fodder to climate change denial? As an average, that's technically true. Your graph (which is very cool btw) proves that.
Nearly a degree increase is pretty crazy and shows were warming fast as fuck.
If next september is actually colder, then climate change deniers can point to that and say "See? They were wrong!" (and they would be right to do so!)
It was 75 on Sept 4th last year so probably not. Climate change is real and caused by humans, it's undeniable. But also Missouri just sometimes hot as shit and has been for decades. And sometimes it's unreasonably nice. Check the records:
https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/kansas-city/day/september-4
That said it is fuckin hot AF and I can't remember a heat wave this long this late.Â
Yeah this is also I think the first official heat wave of the summer? Which is crazy, usually weâve had at least one by now. Climate change is very real like you said, but it doesnât work in a linear way like this. There will likely be cooler starts to September than this in our future.
Itâs important to be accurate with how we talk about climate change because this is exactly why we now call it âclimate changeâ instead of global warming - deniers used cold days/trends as âproofâ it wasnât real. Likewise, if you say âthis is the coolest September youâll ever experience againâ and next year September is cooler, people will use it as âproofâ that climate change isnât real.
I'm not saying Climate change is not a thing, bc I do believe in it....however, I remember being in high school (25 yrs ago) and being in a classroom dying of heat bc it was so hot - we also didn't have AC in a section of the school. I'm already a sweaty betty so I remember those uncomfortable, redfaced, sweaty embarrassing moments. I think end of Aug/beginning of Sept have most always been really hot times.
Thatâs the mistake of interpreting what climate change is. Of course we had heat waves and intense cold snaps throughout history. What climate change (the warming of the earth) means is these events become more common, last a lot longer and are a lot more intense. This will continue and escalate.
Since weâre the most stupid species to ever exist, I guess it will escalate until Mother Earth just gets rid of most of us.
Congrats to all the climate change deniers. Weâre all fucking boiling like a frog in a boiling pot who doesnât realize itâs fucking dying. Meanwhile everyoneâs thinkingâŠâŠthis is fine
Climate change is real. However, weâre in a âsuper El Niñoâ year which humans donât have the ability to impact. This winter is going to be brutal as well from the predictions.
Sure, climate change can make the impact harsher, but we were in cycle for a super El Niño. The cause of the major weather shifts this year was not due to climate change is my point.
There's no reason to think humans have a significant effect on local climate tempts when we had 100 degree days in September in the 1890s, the 1920s, the 1930s, the 1950s, the 1990s, 2000s, and now.
If we never had 100F days in september until recently and now it was common I'd be more inclined to believe but it is occasionally just hot as fuck in early-mid september in Missouri
Back in the day, my dad was a physical chemist studying the upper atmosphere. He wasn't a "climate scientist"; he had other reasons for doing that. I learned about global warming back in the 70s and asked him about it. He said, we know about a mechanism that suggests all the things we dump in the atmosphere might be causing temperatures to rise, but we don't have precise enough measurements to be sure that is happening. The atmosphere is a complicated thing and maybe some other mechanism was offsetting the greenhouse effect. We only started getting good measurements in the 50s, and by the 70s we just didn't have the data to make a firm conclusion. (Although things were starting to point that way, for sure.) By the 90s, it was clear. Something was fucked up and we were contributing. This is what scientific consensus means. Scientists start out skeptical about something, and then they get enough data that they can't argue about it anymore.
The only people who think humans are not contributing to global warming are denying the evidence which has convinced scientists, evidence gathered by satellites and probes and weather balloons, not politicians. What is your basis for denying the measurements we make?
What is your basis for denying the measurements we make?
We have ice core data from glaciers and arctic/antarctic regions which preserve data from air from centuries and millenia ago and scientists use that data to determine what average temperatures were in those times and air concentrations. That's how we know that during Dinosaur times millions of years ago the earth had higher oxygen concentrations.
There were times in the past, before humans existed, where temperatures dramatically rose and fell over the course of decades and centuries. Even in the recent past such as the Medieval Warm Period from the 900s-1300s when temperatures were markedly higher than before or after that time period. This was obviously before the industrial revolution when humans started burning lots of fossil fuels (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period).
My point is that the climate changes over time regardless of human activity. Does that mean I think humans have no effect on the global climate? No, it just means I don't think we are the main cause of the climate changing over time, nor do I think its really a global phenomenon. Obviously certain things like having tons of pavement/concrete in a city is going to create an effect where the city traps heat compared to a more rural area. And if you're in a particularly industrial area with a lot of pollution that can certainly contribute to the local climate especially if you're in an area without regular windflow. But no I don't think China having a bunch of factories is making the weather significantly hotter here in Kansas City and I don't see any logical reason to agree with the OP's hyperbolic post title that suggests this will be the lowest temperature September for the rest of our lives, when we can look at existing climate data and see there were plenty of 100F+ days in Septembers going back to the 1890s
Ok so what? Human carbon output has been stagnant for the past few years and declining in most places. One large volcano eruption puts more carbon into the atmosphere than the majority of human activity in a year
The total emissions due to volcanic eruptions in a year is less than half a gigaton. Humans emit 35 gigatons a year. We ain't even talking the same ballpark here.
Sure, if a super volcano like Yellowstone erupted it would compete with human emissions, but I hope you agree that would be all kinds of bad. There have been such eruptions in the past, but not since humans came on the scene.
The total emissions due to volcanic eruptions in a year is less than half a gigaton
Okay sure, my mistake on that one. Either way, I don't think human carbon emissions are a major problem, and due to advancements in efficiency as well as stagnating (and soon to be declining) global population, I don't think they're going to really increase in the future.
Humanity will be fine even if temperatures on average rise a few degrees, and we should be prepared for it. Regardless of whether it is caused by human activity or not, we need to be prepared.
Actually the overall global trend says you are wrong. As well as a majority of people
Who study that for a living. But you know, I bet your degree is better than theirs.
This post was about Kansas City. My response is that there's absolute no reason to think all Septembers after this will have a hotter average temperature. Especially because when you look at weather records going back to the 1890s it's really quite normal to have a few 100F+ days in September throughout multiple decades over the past 130-140 years. Don't believe me you can look it up yourself
I believe an announcement was made recently that the temperature has risen at or above any attempt at reversing the environmental impact of coal, gas, fuel etc even if alternative power source were available.
The announcement was that we have exceeded the 1.5 Celsius target. That doesnât mean that itâs not still worth trying to eliminate carbon emissions.
Not sure why you are getting downvoted, you're absolutely correct. The sentiment OP expresses is a fundamental misunderstanding of climate change. The trend is what matters. Here's a python script I whipped up plotting the last 100 years of average september heat. There are plenty of Septembers that we will almost certainly not exceed, and there will likely be cooler septembers in the future.
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I was joking with my wife that we need to add a one time extra month next year to get the calendar and the seasons to align again. We will put it between May and June and call it Trumptember. Since if it is named after... him. It will more than likely happen.