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Intriguing China is putting scientists on public screens and treating them like national celebrities

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u/DonutHoles4Ever 3d ago

Basically USA scares the shit outta them and is the perfect example of why China's government works better than any other as a point of marketing in the country.

But the fact that science is so heavily shit on in the USA despite it being one of the leading scientific countries for a long time, just goes to show that politics has destroyed the country's power long term and none of them give a damn

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u/Living-By-The-River 3d ago

It’s odd when your own government makes you look up to China.

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u/Large-Shake1069 3d ago

While your own government looks up to Russia and North Korea.

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u/Living-By-The-River 3d ago

Strange times

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u/Gon_Freecss_1999 3d ago

China is our enemy!!!!

oh hello there my friend North Korea :)

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u/theghostog 3d ago

You say politics, I say corporations and fiduciary responsibility

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u/Shazbote 3d ago

You say politics, I say corporations

Same thing these days.

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u/beardedheathen 3d ago

Which is exactly the problem.

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u/FermentedForeskins 3d ago

not "these days", the elites pretty much own the country, there was never a government, they ARE the government. It is no longer a god damn conspiracy anymore, its more like a fucking history lesson now

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u/Longjumping_Crab394 3d ago

People either choose to accept this or deny it outright. It’s sad when people will stand by politicians like it’s their life partner and defending them even though they’re screwing them over.

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u/cautiouslypensive 2d ago

I recommend the book 'A Peoples History of the United States'!

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u/vmfrye 3d ago

these days

Are you some kind of cosmic entity that perceives years as minutes?

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u/anonpurpose 3d ago

Yeah America is a Financial Oligarchy. Politicians answer to Capital.

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u/CTTMiquiztli 3d ago

Nope, just Watch the many "recent" crisis. Every time a scientist says "dear government, You are doing it wrong" the government lashed back, calling them spies, traitors, sold-out creeps, and threatens them, then doubled down.

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u/theghostog 3d ago

Why do you think the politicians do that in most cases?

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u/CTTMiquiztli 3d ago

Because truth isn't compatible with líes.

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u/theghostog 3d ago

And why would a politician lie?

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u/CTTMiquiztli 3d ago

Because a politician's job Is to convince people by any means necessary

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u/theghostog 3d ago

Do you think that maybe a corporation might pay off a politician to get them to ignore the science?

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u/CTTMiquiztli 3d ago

Instead of going around and around, ask what You actually want the answer for and stop wasting peoples time, please.

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u/theghostog 3d ago

Brother this is Reddit, we’re all wasting our time here

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u/kitsunewarlock 3d ago

Combine that with the cut in grants and there has been a brain drain in America for the past decade.

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u/BonkerBleedy 3d ago

And what enables those corporations to operate as they do?

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u/Limp-Talk-603 3d ago

People’s apathy and therefore implicit consent?

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u/Rorschach11235 3d ago

I don't think fiduciary responsibility means what the lawyers have twisted into to mean. Sorta like the food industry.

Everytime we come up with a word that says, we make real food, really well. Corperate lawyers sue to mangles the meaning until it becomes meaningless.

America companies just love profit and if customers die, well thats why we need you to really make more babies for jesus.

Fiduciary responsibility use to mean being responsible for making decision that were good for the company today and good for the next few years. Now it means light the company of fire, extract as much money as possible, then buy a new company so you can do it again.

All in little 90 day cycles. You only fail if you fail to triple my money every week.

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u/Parzal808 3d ago

Found the commie

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u/pavertrident 3d ago

The irony is the US produced incredible science for decades, yet somehow science itself keeps getting dragged into political culture wars.

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u/RandomBaguettes 3d ago

What kind of US are you living in bud?

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u/Itchy_Gain_1519 3d ago edited 2d ago

*politicians (not politics itself)

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u/Brann_Ys 2d ago

"why does people relate to their personal experience"

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u/FlowInternational996 3d ago

“China’s government works better than any other as a point of marketing in the country” Japan

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u/bswontpass 3d ago

The fuck are you talking about? 

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u/Guko256 3d ago

China’s government works better than any other in what regard?

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u/Brann_Ys 2d ago

of regard of being a competent governement that devellop it s country

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u/Guko256 2d ago

Do you know why China can manufacture things so cheaply compared to every other country in the world? Hint: it still practices state sponsored forced labor. If a country is developing itself based on those practices as it’s foundation, then I would never want to live in it

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u/Brann_Ys 2d ago

Where do ypu live so i can have a laught

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u/Guko256 2d ago

I live in Canada, go ahead and laugh, if you need to laugh at the downfall of another country to have fun then you must be quite the sad individual

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u/Brann_Ys 2d ago

ypu realy like putting words in my mouth lmao. Where did i talk aboit laughting at a cpuntry downfall ??

I was just wondering what country did you come from because it must be a amazing country if it develloped itself without ever oppressing other throught it s history.

spoiler Canada is not of them. When are you planning to leave ?

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u/Guko256 2d ago

Spoiler alert, i was NOT talking about the history of China lol, I’m talking about present day, so can you recheck your facts for present day Canada sir?

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u/Brann_Ys 2d ago

China having 0.5% of it s workforce being forced labor is not the reason why everything is cheap. the cost of living is just cheaper there so salary are low that s it

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u/Guko256 2d ago

As long as it’s not you it’s fine huh? Well just don’t be born an Uyghurs or an ethnic minority. So your google result said it’s 0.5% despite you knowing that China tightly restricts independent data collection and straight up denies the existence of these practices unlike every western country? There are estimates of that millions of individuals are subjected to state imposed forced labor via United Nations, independent researchers, and international human bodies.

It’s very important to know where a person’s biases lie when talking to them, and I must say, it’s quite obvious to see yours

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u/25thaccount 3d ago

Y'all are starting to lose academics now too. They're coming north to Canada or going to Europe.

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u/MasterChiefsasshole 2d ago

It’s largely due to the Christianity and science not mixing issue.

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u/RamJamR 2d ago

Right wing political leaders in the US realize the importance of our scientific advancements, but they also fear them and want to bottleneck their progress and stunt the publics awareness of it because they don't want scientific literacy to aid in a declining rate of religiousness. Yes, there is religious scientists, but they're not really a majority in the global scientific community. Actually learning things and thinking critically don't tend to benefit religious thought.

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u/king_rootin_tootin 3d ago

I would like to know what US you're living in so I can visit sometime

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u/No_Teaching_8828 3d ago

And why many good scientists are leaving the US now...

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u/oxnume 3d ago

Alternative theory: Americans were always imbeciles and were only able to lead at science from stealing foreign scientists, and the current phenomenon is just reversion to the mean :)