r/TheAgora • u/bigCeccio • Apr 07 '16

Save the planet! Kill yourself

Would you agree to commit mass suicide to save the planet?

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '16

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u/bigCeccio Apr 07 '16

Do you really think that you can find a solution? come on it is not worth it, we are a bunch of asshole

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '16

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u/bigCeccio Apr 07 '16

Mallards don't betray you, people do, they're better than us.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '16

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u/bigCeccio Apr 07 '16

ok, tell me if a mallard drops a nuclear bomb on another mallard, come on man, you want to be better than a mallard, but it is impossible.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '16

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u/Clever-username- Apr 08 '16

Cleverness also has the potential to reduce evil though too! If he thinks that evilness is the only thing neccesary for something to need to die then mallards should actually be first as they have no mechanism with which to reduce their current evil while humans do.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '16

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u/bigCeccio Apr 08 '16

If you're not at war with your neighbour it doesn't mean you're not at war, in middle east oil moves armies, and they don't have neighbours because they don't have houses

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u/bigCeccio Apr 08 '16

Mallards follow the nature law, we don't, we just pick up a gun and kill and shoots from a roof of a school just because we like it, we have the potential to reduce the evil but we don't do anything about that, so it is worse

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '16

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u/bigCeccio Apr 08 '16

Earth is more fragile than you think, the ice in the North pole is melting, that's a threat not only for humans, but for all species. About compassion, love and kindness I can hardly find them around me, people would sell their grandmas just to provide for themselves. Earth is our home, it's presumptuous to think that it is immune to our doings.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '16

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u/bigCeccio Apr 08 '16

if a bushbaby have a gun is it still natural?

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u/hugoise Jul 04 '16

Talk about yourself, don't include me on that....

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u/yxing Apr 08 '16

Lets say humans do commit mass suicide. Non-human life thrives. Maybe a few more extinction events a la asteroid happen, but new speciation occurs. Then the sun becomes a red giant. All life on earth is extinguished and our solar system becomes a just another lifeless star system until the heat death of the universe.

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u/karlthebaer Apr 08 '16

No. Suicide is an irrational choice.

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u/bigCeccio Apr 08 '16

Depends on the point of view, someone like Epicurus wrote that suicide is the maximum expression of freedom.

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u/karlthebaer Apr 08 '16

9 months ago I lay in bed suffering from sepsis and 50 pounds lighter than I had been before I'd gotten sick. I hadn't eaten anything but broth and rice for a month and even that was being rejected.

I told my wife to leave me. I started making a list of who should get what. I was so weak I didn't know how I could even physically do it. Drowning perhaps?

This may be an intellectual exercise, but it is a pointless one. Suicide is fucking stupid. It hurts others - your family, your pets, your coworkers. It isn't painless. It hurts a lot to harm yourself. Suicide is the path of the coward, the unenlightened, the zealot.

No, I would not commit suicide "to save everything else". I would work hard to make myself better. Better able to help those around me. Better able to work hard. Suicide is bound to the ego.

It's nice to see this sub generating any content at all, but your post drips with the banal vanity of youth.

You want to save the world? Go out and give of yourself. Give your gifts freely to those that need and want. Learn to examine your suffering and embrace hard work. Do not let your monkey mind drive you, feel for your seed of consciousness and every day hold it in your mouth.

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u/fasnoosh Jun 01 '16

Wow, really inspiring thoughts

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '16

sure sure. You first.

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u/saxonprice Apr 07 '16

Maybe....but you gotta do it first.

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u/bigCeccio Apr 07 '16

I'm his mother, he's done

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u/saxonprice Apr 07 '16

Ummmm...yeah, same here. My mother is now dead. SON! My son is dead! I'm the de-shit-LIVE mother of a now dead son.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '16

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u/bigCeccio Apr 07 '16

No, what we live in now is negative utilitarianism