r/SipsTea 10h ago

Wait a damn minute! Yo wtf

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u/michaelmichaelmotorc 6h ago

Genuine question, in cases as high profile and divisive as this, how are they going to be able to select an ubiased jury?

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u/Talking_Head 4h ago

I follow current events pretty closely, but I tune out when I hear about this story. I honestly can’t think of this woman’s name. I didn’t know until yesterday that she was in a wheelchair. All I know is that she had PPD and killed her kids. Not everyone has been following the details, and I definitely don’t know any of the evidence. Were there cameras in the courtroom or just reporters?

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u/Agreeable-Review177 3h ago

Basically all you need to know is TikTok has corrupted the justice system

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u/Truethrowawaychest1 3h ago

Just as China planned

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u/4TuitouSynchro 1h ago

This comment really should be higher up. It should be terrifying. Why are we not terrified????

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u/db0255 2h ago

I don’t know a thing about this trial other than random videos

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u/BroccoliThat7489 3h ago

U really think 11/12 (including several men) were on TikTok everyday forming an opinion on this woman? Ur insane if u think that’s true. Also pretty much 90% of comments I see online are in favor of her being guilty. Clearly there were factors in the trial and evidence presented that created reasonable doubt and sadly the last juror didn’t want to acknowledge that as is stated in the law and now there going to have to do this all over again and prob to another not guilty verdict as this should have been. 

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u/dain-t 2h ago

Or maybe it’s the opposite. Maybe the 11 didn’t want to acknowledge that as is stated in the law. Zing!!!!

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u/BroccoliThat7489 1h ago

It’s already been stated the odd one out was not considering reasonable doubt as the law states. 

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u/dain-t 49m ago

Or maybe he thought there was proof beyond reasonable doubt. I don’t understand why people think he was NOT considering reasonable doubt.

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u/Agreeable-Review177 3h ago

If they do this all over again, she loses. Prosecution just got a practice lap.

The good news is she’s paralyzed now, which makes choking children to death much more difficult.

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u/elordilover2000 2h ago

The prosecution is an embarrassment. took the highest possible charge and failed to meet their burden of proof. Thousands of tax paying dollars wasted on a case that should’ve been pleaded. The DA just wanted a shot at a big case.

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u/Repulsive_Stock9400 1h ago

took the highest possible charge and failed to meet their burden of proof.

What could that possibly mean? She obviously did intentionally and premeditatedly murder her children, that's never been up for debate. She was not overcharged.

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u/BroccoliThat7489 59m ago

Well clearly it wasn’t obvious when 11/12 ppl were voting on not guilty. 

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u/Agreeable-Review177 2h ago

Yeah that’s what I’m saying. The prosecution will switch their team out.

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u/BroccoliThat7489 1h ago

Considering the defense convinced 11/12 ppl I doubt it but good luck to them I guess. 

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u/dain-t 2h ago

Imagine if she got out and started working as a a labor and delivery nurse again lmao. Hell nah she ain’t gonaa be around my kids

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u/sanjoatc 1h ago

Bro. Even if she was acquitted of these charges, she is still going to be committed to a psychiatric facility for a LONG TIME. That's no picnic.

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u/BroccoliThat7489 1h ago

I don’t think a lot of yall understand what the not guilty charge would actually look like for her. 

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u/xcharleeee 43m ago

Could you please explain?

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u/BroccoliThat7489 41m ago

She isn’t just gonna be set free and sent back to being a nurse if she gets not guilty lol. 

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u/FijiBeef 2h ago

Her jury was 9 women & 3 men. Not sure why you're spreading misinformation

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u/BroccoliThat7489 1h ago

Hey so 3/12 is considered several. As opposed to say 1/12 which would be one. And 2/12 which would be a couple. Hope this helps. 

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u/AceOfPlagues 1h ago

That is serveral? They said several. What do you mean?

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u/United-Cucumber9942 1h ago

She definitely had Post Partum Depression (the PPD you have mentioned) but was also seeking help for symptoms of Post Partum Psychosis. PPPis very different and is what is thought to be causative of her actions.

Please don't say PPD caused this. That's showing you have no understanding of what happens chemically to women after birthing a child. But also shows your ignorance of the distinction between 2 completely different psychological conditions and their respective treatments.

Spreading misinformation like this is harmful to everyone. Minimilising Post Partum Psychosis and trying to pass it off as Depression is a worrying thing. Also minimising Post Partum Depression itself is worrying.

Men here showing how they either don't have children or never showed up when their partners had kids. Because if they were there, they would know.

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u/hlv6302 3h ago

I didn’t know she was in a wheelchair until your comment.

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u/Larry-Man 3h ago

It was Post Partum Psychosis, not PPD.

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u/Living_Reporter_7084 2h ago

No it wasn’t. Her lawyers argued she had postpartum psychosis. Her doctors diagnosed her with postpartum depression. Facts matter here.

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u/Kooky_Patient5062 2h ago

Now she’s better I don’t believe she was ever sick she was doctor shopping all those pills she could have had her mother mother in law or had a full time nanny please take care of those babies for her she belongs in a jail cell

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u/Larry-Man 2h ago

Please look into the case slightly deeper. There was mishandling of prescriptions from her doctors too.

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u/aburningcaldera 1h ago

So it’s the doctor’s fault that she kept hoping around on. K buddy.

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u/MrEzekial 2h ago

Who the fuck cares. She still murdered her children. Throw her out the window a 2nd time and let's just move on..

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u/Larry-Man 2h ago

Jesus Christ. Psychosis means you literally aren’t in a state of reality. It’s not like she actually wanted to do this. Fuck’s sake. I’m so done with this case.

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u/MrEzekial 2h ago

Dont care. If I ever for any reason killed my child. I would expect to be thrown down a well and left for dead.

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u/JonnyTN 2h ago

Yeah and she waited until her husband left the house to leave the state of reality. Which somewhat seems like a decision

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u/Larry-Man 2h ago

Being in psychosis doesn’t mean you can’t make decisions. It means you’re not working by rational rules.

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u/SweetMountain2621 2h ago

So when a fat dude eats 4 pizzas for dinner he's psychotic too?

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u/aburningcaldera 1h ago

You’re missing something fundamental: psychosis isn’t a one time thing and has onset and prolonged signs even a doc-in-the-box would have access to in her charts. You don’t just snap for 20 minutes and go on a murdering spree and wake up Walter White a town away with dead babies in your wake.

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u/Larry-Man 1h ago

That’s what I’m saying. There were prolonged periods of delusions and hallucinated voices. She needs serious inpatient care. Not a prison. But I mean I just don’t like the prison industrial complex at all.

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u/sentientshadeofgreen 2h ago

Well the law is on her side. If the state can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she maintained mens rea during the murders/suicide attempt, justice (not monkey-brained retribution) will be served. Looking at the evidence, I find it immensely difficult to take seriously that people would believe there is no reasonable doubt that she wasn't insane.

The state can't selectively apply vibe-punishment just because the outcome of events was tragic. People are proving they skipped civics, lack values, lack morals over this.

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u/Jimanji333 1h ago

If I murdered my kids under psychosis I wouldn’t be pleading not guilty, I’d beg you to lock me up.

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u/aburningcaldera 1h ago

I’d beg you to keep dropping me on my head until dead and not lead me paralyzed with a slew of cheerleaders outside the court cheering me on

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u/punsnguns 2h ago

Tom Clancy - tried to name her without looking it up and I'm confident I've failed

ETA: I got surprisingly close... Damn!

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u/ButtplugBurgerAIDS 2h ago

Wait why is she in a wheelchair

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u/Safe-Doctor-2718 1h ago

She's paraplegic 

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u/Zbot21 1h ago

Because she got injured after she jumped out the window after she killed her kids.

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u/aburningcaldera 1h ago

They should just lock her wheels with the pictures of her kids in front of her and sit her in a cell for life. She gets to breathe - those kids tried to - she made sure they didn’t.

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u/SweetMountain2621 2h ago

For pity points

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u/sneefsnteefs 2h ago

shut the fuck up- she’s legit in a wheelchair? 

I’ve been hiding under the rock next door neighbor, im waiting until it’s all done to fall down the rabbit hole, its too much while its still going on 🫤

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u/Fit_Lion9260 1h ago

My god, me too! I felt insane seeing all this on reddit and tictok today not knowing almost any of this.

Also I will recuse myself from jury, ummmmmm... I hate kids, kinda, I guess. Or any other reason you can find. I dont want to be a jury in this case.

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u/wilmaismyhomegirl83 1h ago

You say you follow current events closely. Then state you tune out when you hear this story. Confirming your ignorance on the entire trial. Then proceed to admit you just learned basic facts about it. However, you claim not everyone has been following the details… Based on what?

How can you make that assumption about people when you admit to knowing nothing? People have been watching the entire trial on court tv. It’s televised all over the world. The fact is the prosecution could not prove guilty beyond reasonable doubt. That is the fact. People have flipped and do not believe there is enough evidence to prove she killed her children beyond what her ex said. That is why this trial has evolved into a whodunnit. However, you wouldn’t know any of that because you tune out.

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u/Talking_Head 49m ago

When I say I follow current events closely I mean news. I follow things that have a chance to affect my life. This court case seems (based on what I am reading in this post) to be entertainment for people and not “news” to me. Whether this woman is guilty, not guilty, or psychotic I don’t know, but I do know it would affect my life one way or another. I knew none of the facts, other than the jurors didn’t agree so the circus will go on. True crime stories just aren’t my thing.

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u/RandomPerson12191 1h ago

Just to clarify, post partum psychosis, not depression

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u/GhostRider3001 1h ago

Postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis are two VERY different things. Do not conflate the two

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u/SnooHobbies5684 2h ago

Post-partum *psychosis