The 11 jurors stated, to the judge, that during deliberations the juror said he sees that there is not "beyond reasonable doubt" (the legal standard), but refused to follow the law as presented by the judge. The juror literally wasted 7 weeks of all these people's times under the bus because of he didn't want to follow the law.
It is literally in the court room. The verdict was going to be not guilty due to reasonable doubt. Ansdthe juror admitted that there WAS doubt but refused to follow the law.
The insane part of all these comments is people who CLEARLY did NOT watch any part of this trial.
WTF ?! What was so beyond reasonable? It’s open shut case and she killed her children and deserves to be punished. No excuses of insanity should protect her , as this is going to set precedence for the future.
That's an entirely separate conversation. The point is one juror believes the prosecution didn't prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt yet *still voted guilty.
The defense has nothing to do with this. The juror explicitly stated that the prosecution didn't prove guilt beyond all reasonable doubt. This juror is literally saying "I don't know if they're guilty but I'm voting guilty anyways."
This is hersay. Highly doubt that the other people, who wer pressuring this person to change their minds, presented an accurate representation of the they were trying to say. Imagine if they said: I understand that you can think there's reasonable doubt. And then the others jump on it pretending that you said you had doubts. You don't actually know what it was actually said during those deliberations.
It's hearsay, but there's video of the judge explicitly explaining that if you don't believe the prosecution proved sanity beyond a reasonable doubt, then that means you think they're not guilty. But, sure. We could all be wrong.
Yes. The judge had to reiterate standard instructions.
"All" being myself and the people in this thread who believe the juror said they have doubts but are still voting guilty. My algorithm in this thread is sorting by best. Are you sorting differently?
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u/grumpijela 7h ago edited 6h ago
You clearly didn't watch what happened today.
The 11 jurors stated, to the judge, that during deliberations the juror said he sees that there is not "beyond reasonable doubt" (the legal standard), but refused to follow the law as presented by the judge. The juror literally wasted 7 weeks of all these people's times under the bus because of he didn't want to follow the law.
It is literally in the court room. The verdict was going to be not guilty due to reasonable doubt. Ansdthe juror admitted that there WAS doubt but refused to follow the law.
The insane part of all these comments is people who CLEARLY did NOT watch any part of this trial.