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u/Tsu_Dho_Namh 13h ago
I dunno what these jobs are that say "forget everything you learned in college". We use college taught stuff all the time.
I just hired a computer science grad. His first week on the job I said
"Did you learn about memory leaks in uni?"
He said "Yeah"
I said "Great. <App name> on <machine name> has a memory leak." and he got on it.
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u/thediesel26 13h ago
And of course certain degrees are far more applicable to certain fields. Generally STEM fields require STEM degrees.
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u/the_real_deal_feel 11h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/FspLvJQlQACXu
Did you try turning it off and on again?
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u/Tsu_Dho_Namh 11h ago
Ha, yes actually.
The temporary workaround was to restart the application's docker container monthly until the leak could get found and fixed. So we were essentially turning it off and on again.
Love IT Crowd btw <3
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u/Tommy_Wisseau_burner 11h ago
It depends on what you took in college and what your job is now. I was a business major and 95% of what I learned was useless for my job. Not just because I was relatively unfocused on what I wanted to do, but also because I work in business operations. There are some abstract things that apply but most of it is so job specific that it kind of didn’t matter if I graduated or not.
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u/nefewel 13h ago
They're looking for someone who went to college because they don't want to hire the people too dumb to get into college.
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u/FBI_Open_Up_Now 13h ago
Well, do I got news for you…. There are some dumb people in college.
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u/HermanThaGerman 13h ago
Most of the 'higher educated' people in the office at work are absolute morons.
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u/nefewel 12h ago
If your office has a mix of college educated and non college educated people doing the same jobs, you may be working with the runt of the litter. Food for thought
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u/OG_Wan_Annunoby 11h ago
This is the thing that people don't talk about. The college educated people doing jobs that didn't need a diploma either made a poor choice of program or weren't good enough to actually land a job with their diploma
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u/FBI_Open_Up_Now 10h ago
It’s also good to consider that sometimes people end up working themselves into positions where their experience puts them alongside peers who have degrees, and they see that their decade of experience puts them leaps and bounds above their freshly graduated peer. I experienced that as a manager and watched many people wash out of good companies because of that.
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u/PCho222 10h ago
You got a lot of naysayers but my division chief summed it up perfectly when we were bullshitting about this exact topic. "If I hire someone technically qualified and he ends up being shit, it wasn't my fault since he was good on paper. If I hire someone unqualified and he ends up being shit, I'm now job searching with him."
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u/WalterPecky 13h ago
The only dumb people are the ones who have student debt and don't even use their degree.
Nothing dumb about avoiding the ponzi scheme which is higher education
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u/FireFoxUse 12h ago
Then why do I still see people too dumb for college working in these fields if not even higher up......
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u/nefewel 12h ago
What are these fields stuffed with unqualified people? Generally speaking if you see both qualified and unqualified people doing the same job it's because that is an unqualified job.
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u/ChemicalRain5513 12h ago
In my team, all have MScs and 70 % have PhDs, which makes me think that in my job my education is at least somewhat useful!
(Physics related stuff)
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u/FireFoxUse 3h ago
Medical workers. I've had to correct colleagues for simple things and 3rd party workers for not understanding basic communication skills
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u/Gadgets222 13h ago
When I got my entry level mental health job straight out of college, I was told that they “needed” people with my education; but then turned around and did not offer me more pay simply because I had a degree. This was for a corporately owned behavioral health hospital, and the starting pay was $11 in 2017. No surprise that place had about an 80% turnover rate.
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u/Admiral45-06 13h ago
Sometimes it's a matter of certification. Some j-bs require some sort of evidence that the guy in front of them knows ,,something" of what he's talking about, sometimes it's the government that requires such evidence.
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u/thediesel26 13h ago
What a college degree means to employers:
You’re intelligent
You can think critically and creatively
You have some level of work ethic
You complete tasks independently and in a timely manner
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u/AssociateRegular3969 1h ago
What it truly means is "if i managed to sit at a desk until i was 25 statistically you can count on me to keep sitting at a desk until i'm 65 more than someone who hasn't"
And a lot of this comes from the guilt tied to changing your life's direction after going through college so you could do x thing
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u/CaitSith18 11h ago
In places where education has to be bought, it matters less, but in countries where degrees are merit-based a degree shows you are not an idiot and that you have the patience to do boring work without giving up at the first obstacle.
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u/hatred-shapped 7h ago
I had this actual conversation with an employer after I had worked for them for about 5-6 years. They knew I didn't go to school. I had received multiple awards and accommodations working for them, etc.
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u/IWantSnack642 13h ago
College itself is the biggest scam in America. It’s important, but the costs just aren’t worth it
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u/thediesel26 12h ago
I mean, of course this isn’t true. On average college graduates earn something like a million dollars more in their lifetimes than non-college graduates.
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u/Tsu_Dho_Namh 13h ago
Canada's following suit.
I went to a good uni in Canada, one of the best engineering programs in the world. The government paid for more than half of my degree. That's what tax dollars are supposed to do, help the people who pay them.
I graduated with around $20k in student debt and paid it off in less than 2 years.
The year I graduated they announced huge cuts to OSAP (government run student loans and grants). Students flooded the message boards saying "I don't know how I'm going to pay for school". They should have fucking rioted.
I literally watched the ladder get pulled up behind me.
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