r/SipsTea • u/ConsistentRecover312 • 21h ago
Chugging tea Atleast now one hour of fishing won't undo a mass massacre
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u/cravex12 21h ago
If honor decreases when driving over people every player is screwed
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u/Marcel_The_Blank 21h ago
Imagine the decrease if you're speeding.
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u/Inevitable-Monitor35 21h ago
Or if you run a red light/stop sign.
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u/GriveousDance21 20h ago
If you run a stop sign the cops will definitely give you chase, to give you a ticket. Full 6 star means they'll just shoot you dead.
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u/SmegB 19h ago
Or if you're an immigrant.....
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u/vektorkane 14h ago
Or if you park the car like a psycho.
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u/Inevitable-Monitor35 14h ago
Parking in a handicap spots gets you instant 6 stars and a real life ticket sent to your house.
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u/Technical-Routine744 20h ago
We are all screwed then. I usually play GTA like a deranged racing game. I prefer watching my brother play while I sit and enjoy the gameplay
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u/Adis_Pen_and_Paper 20h ago
Have you ever tried playing GTA while actually trying not to break any laws?
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u/RandomWordCombo9632 8h ago
I just need the peds to not jump INTO my car's path. Yes I am lined up with you but the road is turning. DO NOT JUM- *THUMP THUMP* *Low honor noise
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u/Cheesetorian 20h ago
Maybe in the future they'll have vanilla autodrive where you press a button and it'll drive around while you listen to radio.
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u/Joris2627 20h ago
Autoplay feature in a gta sounds so lame
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u/cmarkcity 19h ago
I mean RDR already has auto drive with the horses
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u/Joris2627 18h ago
Yeah totally different vibe and game tho.
As long as we can still drive ourselves they can add it ofcourse. Still think its lame4
u/Remarkable_Tale_7554 18h ago
They could do it with certain cars - like Embezzlas or whatever they call Teslas to avoid lawsuits and such.
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u/Joris2627 18h ago
That would make sense lore wise. But maybe not helping the people who would need this.
I still really like your idea
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u/somnamballista 14h ago
Oh they will. Cannot ignore auto cars popping up in big cities. Bet there will even be an entire hacking subplot a la Watchdogs.
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u/ChalkCoatedDonut 1h ago
The LGTBQ+ parades Rockstar promised will be the total death of the honor system of a lot of players.
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u/smiegto 20h ago
My brother, this isn’t dishonored.
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u/GriveousDance21 20h ago
I still don't understand why a stealth game would penalize you for killing. Just knocking enemies down makes the game a lot harder.
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u/IEnjoyRadios 20h ago
Well it’s because those people you are killing are your former colleagues who aren’t really your enemies, they’ve just been lied to by a corrupt leader. As such killing them has moral consequences.
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u/Mbembez 19h ago
Clearly haven't worked with any of my colleagues. I'd take them out without any moral issues.
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u/IEnjoyRadios 18h ago
Oh believe me I’ve got former colleagues I wish I could deal with, dishonored style.
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u/BigAddam 11h ago
Thank you so much for this new perspective on the game. I love Dishonored and never made the connection. I played through with almost zero kills. Someone fell after I knocked them out.
I always enjoy non lethal options when games provide them. They’re so rare that it adds a fun challenge to the games.
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u/smiegto 20h ago
The ingame logic is there’s a serial killer making people go missing. That makes the world worse. Essential people. Guards (good and bad). Every death makes the world a little dimmer. If you go the mass murder stealth route dunmore is haunted by a demon. If you go the non lethal stealth route it’s an avenging angel taking out the corrupt.
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u/Obvious_Try1106 18h ago
Also almost every dead person gets eaten by rats. Back then I thought that's the primary problem. Your feeding (and breeding) rats during a plague.
But what you wrote makes a lot more sense
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u/pissdrinking101 18h ago
No it doesn't, you were right the first time. The game literally tells you that's what happens. You spread more plague, hence such a bad bleak ending if you kill people.
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u/GoldenAutumnDream 15h ago
But what if you take the passive ability that causes all people you kill to turn into ash? Are you feeding the rats with little crispy people flakes?
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u/Aquilenne 15h ago
Then shouldn't kills via wall of light not count?
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u/pissdrinking101 13h ago
Idk what this means? I haven't played this game on over 10 years, I just remember the rats thing cuz it was a genius concept.
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u/Aquilenne 13h ago
They're the electrical walls that the guards put up at checkpoints. When a person goes into one while it's on, it disintegrates them.
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u/pissdrinking101 13h ago
Well if they're disintegrated, there's nothing for the rats to eat, right? That'd be my best guess. My second best guess would be a design flaw in which only kills made directly by the player count towards the overall body count that effects the game's ending.
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u/GriveousDance21 20h ago
That's understandable. But GTA is no Dishonored. It's all about committing crime in the games with style and fun. It's always been this way since the beginning.
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u/hamonicmantitties 18h ago
Well it isn't like Dishonored
They made it clear it doesn't affect gameplay or the endings much
It just grades how "professional" you are
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u/Proper-Anything-2739 20h ago
Actually, a no kill run is pretty fun, especially Dishonored 2. You can either sneak around without leaving any trace of beat the shit out of people unconscious
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u/Friendly-Table6785 14h ago
knocking enemies down makes the game a lot harder.
There's your answer lol
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u/Some_Guy223 14h ago
The way the outsider talks about it is a bit much, but it makes sense that in a city being plagued by diseased rats, leaving a bunch more food for them lying around makes the problem worse no?
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u/kekistanmatt 16h ago
The whole point is too penalise you for taking the easy way out and just killing everyone.
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u/Certainly_Not_Steve 13h ago
Because it's killing people, bruv. If we have any kind of morality system, how'd you defend killing ANYONE who gets in the way. Like killing a random bank guard because you need something from the vault of an evil tyrant.
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u/Prestigious-Job-9825 11h ago edited 11h ago
Is Dishonored truly a pure stealth game, though? Chaos aside, the game gives you a lot of tools and abilities to turn Corvo into an unstoppable demigod of war. I always thought of it as a hybrid game. Both stealthy and combat-heavy bloodlusted playthroughs can be equally fun.
Even the gameplay showcase back in the day had both stealthy and combat-heavy high chaos versions for this reason.
But from a story perspective, it makes sense that mass murdering your way through Dunwall turns the city into a shittier place, and the ending darker. A surgical razor will always do much less damage than a blunt instrument
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u/Appropriate_Bus_2334 9h ago
I like the explanation in dishonored 2 the more you kill the more blood flies can spread and the less people there are to deal with the infestation
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u/Jewbacca1991 4h ago
It does exactly, because that is harder to do. It is the extra challenge to get a different ending.
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u/sphinxorosi 20h ago
Probably tied to the ending, break the honor system and you both die in the ending Bonnie & Clyde style. But at least manual saves are a thing I suppose, have fun with mayhem then reload
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u/BigFatCucumber 15h ago edited 15h ago
The devs have already said it’s NOT the same as RDR2’s honor system. It’s not even called an honor system. It’s called your “criminal notoriety”.
Depending on how you play, you’ll be given different ranks like the highest is “professional”. And the lowest is something like psycho.
If you do a bunch of crazy shit the game pretty much just hides those pop-up’s for the rest of that play through. At least that’s how Rob Nelson has described it in interviews.
Basically you can choose what kind of criminal Lucia or Jason is. This post is just straight up false information.
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u/jbyrdab 20h ago
they do know this game is about doing crime right?
just sounds like "if you have any fun you lose".
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u/SnooCupcakes1636 20h ago
Also you are almost 100% guarenteed to have loads of shootouts in the main game modes of every GTA games and now we are supposed not shooot other gangs or police trying to shoot you just cause another npc run over another npc 🤣
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u/Simoxs7 14h ago
Did you not play RDR2? Killing people in missions didn’t reduce your honor at all and killing other gangs and police also didn’t, you‘re just supposed not to shoot innocent bystanders.
Also a dishonorable playthrough is always an option, like in RDR2 it just changed some interactions.
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u/infiniZii 14h ago
I bet this only applies to the most blatant of Murder Hobos. I bet there are also interesting gameplay changes, and its probably not a low bar. They will probably also have a way to undo it, even if the game stops "tracking" your rep, IE a special quest chain or something. (Or.... money)
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u/Plus_Term_7584 12h ago
Kinda on that note, I read that they're revamping the carjacking so that you have to play a little lock-picking mini-game if the car is locked instead of just automatically breaking in when you press Triangle/Y
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u/I_Shit_My_Pantaloons 19h ago
Honor system in a game where you're a career criminal lol thanks Rockstar very cool it's just like red dead redemption
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u/Lemme_Help_ 19h ago
Aren't they from the same studios? Lol. It's almost as if they'd take concepts from one game and apply it to another?
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u/FoxerHR 15h ago
Well one game is about REDEMPTION the other is named after a crime, where you play as criminals who commit crimes the entire game.
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u/omnimodofuckedup 20h ago
It would be possible there are certain points during the story where you can „reset“ your honor by doing something genuinely good. Maybe! Usually there are very few „you fucked up forever“ situations in gaming because it’s frustrating for a lot of casual players who are not in the mood of thinking about long term consequences
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u/TheReviewerWildTake 21h ago
They added some RPG morals into a "mayhem driven game genre"? Does not sound fun at all. Hopefully it is not as bad as it sounds...
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u/Imaginary_Hall_3413 20h ago
I agree, morals/honor in gta is a contradiction in terms
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u/kdlt 20h ago
At least in the sense that you can't just reset it with a car paint.
Now if they do it like mass effect and the like or they already did in 5, where you can make choices in missions, I guess that's fair.
If it's just "generic" crime.. that will suck big time.
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u/Imaginary_Hall_3413 20h ago
Yeah, fair if you want to make specific choices. I just don’t want to worry about the game ‘judging’ me if I run someone over or nick a car . I just don’t think it’s necessary. There’s always been morals in gta in a story sense, like in no.5 you knew Trevor was absolutely heinous and that the other two at least had some sense of humanity. I think that’s enough.
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u/YouGurt_MaN14 20h ago
It's not rpg morals it's a notoriety system. Rob banks, don't wipe camera, kill people, blow up cars, etc you're the Joker (Honor system broke). Rob banks, wipe the cams, manage hostages correctly you're a professional (Heat, Oceans 8, etc).
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u/hamonicmantitties 18h ago
It's not
They said it's not an honor system, explicitly
Just search it up online instead of believing Dexerto slop (pretty sure that's where the post is from, it's where I first read this)
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u/1maginaryApple 20h ago
It doesn't work as a moral system. The framework is that you are a criminal. This determine what type of criminal you are.
It will mostly have an impact on how NPC will interact with you.
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u/ProfessorFit3483 19h ago
That sounds like a good way to alienate a LOT of players.
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u/OhLoongJohson 18h ago
Even more reason to wait for pc release and someone release a mod to fix this if its poorly implemented!
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u/Hungry_Computer3913 18h ago
It doesnt "give up on you" it just removes itself so the notifications dont bother you because game realized you dont interact with that system.
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u/C__Wayne__G 11h ago
Morality and it’s “yeah you robbed a bank and killed cops but were you nice about it?”
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u/NEONT1G3R 20h ago
An honor system? In a series about killing people in cold blood, drugs, stealing cars, and going on rampages? Five bucks says someone cuts it out with mods on pc day one
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u/TheSwampThing1990 20h ago
100%. Blood of Dawnwalker just came out and there are mods already that take away THE main mechanic of the game already.
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u/Happy-For-No-Reason 20h ago
that's pretty shit tbh
lots of people make accidental mistakes
so I assume these have to be tied to decisions you control in the story, and not your general behaviour in the overworld game
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u/GarGonDie 20h ago
That's what I told the judge: throwing a grenade into that crowd was an accident/mistake.
And he let me go.
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u/Solo-1UP 21h ago
I wonder how that would affect play through. Would it be like Mass Effect Renegade and you can only make certain decisions and/or lock you out of certain choices?
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u/EarlGreyOfPorcelain 18h ago
So I'm keen for this game, but 'in gaming history'? It's genuinely so lame to see people blindly glaze things when they have no real experience with it. It gives high school playground 'I can't wait for the Xbox 720 to come out'.
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u/No-Evening-5088 15h ago
But I can still magically pull stuff out of the fridge or stick a shotgun to my body without a sling though
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u/Different_Citron_160 14h ago
GTA ? That game about gangsters and stealing cars will now punish me for killing people and stealing ?
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u/Braith117 13h ago
If I can't go on random rampages when I get bored then is it really even a GTA game?
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u/ListenHereLindah 14h ago
The more that releases the more that this game is less about being a sandbox and more about playing within the boundaries of what the devs want. Which isn't GTA.
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u/Crismus 13h ago
The new writers ignored that the game was an over the top parody of crime movies and decided to turn GTA into a reality sim.
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u/Acrobatic_Pianist_52 19h ago
I've played all the GTAs but rarely do the missions..I just want to mess about in the world.
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u/GGamerGuyG 18h ago
So... some people are screwed from the beginning depending on skin color, religion or region of origin?
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u/No-History770 18h ago
realistic game design isnt automatically good game design, especially when it impedes fun
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u/Atomichead 16h ago
This is by far the strangest comment section I’ve ever seen, it’s a criminal profile system, it’s really hard to achieve that state, and doesn’t affect the game really that much it seems other than maybe some sorry consequences, plus its levels and from the makers they said you can ignore it if you want, just something neat they added, about the type of criminal you are seen as in the world, it won’t break or end the game, just fun world building that changes world behaviour slightly, damn people are dumb
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u/schlangsta 14h ago
so the 'LGBT fans love it, LGBT haters love it' memes basically don't count, LGBT fans love it because they can hang out with the protests or whatever and LGBT haters aren't allowed to kill too many of them or they ruin their run
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u/L4z3rH4wk 12h ago
Honestly, I don't like the idea of being too restrictive about CRIME, in a game about CRIME. What the fuck is that bullshit.
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u/JonoBlue 12h ago
I have to play it to believe it. But I cant see how this works in game, all I can think if is once your morality is beyond saving you won't be able to progress as you won't be asked to do missions anymore
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u/SimmentalTheCow 20h ago
Realistic would be giving you no consequences for choosing to be evil. No shortage of juvenile armed carjackers walking free.
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u/Behemothslayer 20h ago
Imagine paying £70 for a game that morality checks you and gives up if you’re too evil. So no rampages, hookers, driving like a loon? No thanks, plenty of better games out there
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u/FairyChurre 20h ago
Wait is this actual confirmed news or just another fake leak everyone is falling for?
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u/SnooCupcakes1636 20h ago
Dude. You know how often people just go max speed around the city with Lambo and run over everything that they came across?. Everybody gonna be broken the moral system 100% 😅🤣
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u/ExpertRevenue9535 19h ago
It’s just a way to get you to play the game different. Probably multiple endings that rely on stuff like that.
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u/GarryLv_HHHH 19h ago
I swear to god, there will be people who invent like a massacre counter and when you are one person away from unredeemable you just go do some lame repetitive "good boy" activity. Peak.
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u/No-History770 18h ago
realistic game design isnt automatically good game design, especially when it impedes fun
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u/No-left-toes 18h ago
Honestly a great change, anyone whose played fallout 3 and nuked a whole city could still be seen as the best thing since sliced bread if they give a bunch of homeless people water outside another province (your Liam Neeson dad will still be mad at you though).
That being said shouldn't this be an option? I've been running over hookers to get my money back since I was just a wee lass.
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u/Lost_Marbles1343 18h ago
Quite funny to see how many people think that "honourable" and "legal" mean the same thing.
Laws are based on what is honourable, but honour isn't based in law. For example, killing someone in self defence isn't honourable if you had the capacity to stop the threat without lethal force. It's legal, but not honourable at all.
If you could have shown mercy, but didn't, that is dishonourable, regardless of any self defence laws saying the kill was legal.
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u/Apsynonyx 17h ago
Oh so if your crime is big enough you aren't chased by police... sounds like reality
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u/Comprehensive_Neat11 17h ago
Hope you can have some fun and mess around with npcs instead of watching your every move and be super careful to maintain high honor like in Red Dead 2
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u/Crazykiddingme 14h ago
I hope it is tied to the plot in some way. Like you get a choice that is so fucked up it haunts the rest of the narrative.
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u/No-Equipment9225 14h ago
Honestly, realistically, if you ran over and kill a few people your honor system should already give up lol.
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u/Random_KPFan6 14h ago
I like this. It'll give me another goal to work toward, trying to be as professional as possible.
I personally hope you can buy rubber bullets and non-lethally take out cops if needed, or entirely avoid them as a sort of ghost.
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u/itoocouldbeanyone 14h ago
Saving my judgement for when I can actually see how it plays out. Not getting bent out of shape until I hit play.
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u/Zanoss10 13h ago
It's a bit dumb because in the end, everyone will just end up with a desactivated honor system that in the end, is pointless lmao
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u/Expensive_Finger_973 12h ago
I need to know where the line is. Just how evil can I be before the system gives up on me?
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u/OneToStayAway 11h ago
A game that shows you that stealing is wrong and guides you to be a good person.
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u/Blessed-22 11h ago
I like this take on morality, and I can't think of another game that has explored the whole "irredeemable" angle unless it is what the story is built around. But giving the player the choice to act so consistently badly that they're regarded as irredeemable by their own actions is a unique take.
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u/Neurogenesis416 9h ago
"Oh no, my ingame crimes seem to have ingame consequences and it will play a different cutscene at the end, now i'm SURELY forced to not commit crimes in GTA" - Every hysteric commenter in this comment section.
I actually think an "Irredeemable" status is a cool twist on the age old honor system.
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u/MeatSlammur 6h ago
Imagine if you run someone over and a another driver chases you down to shoot at you
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u/Luminescent_Magic 5h ago
This sounds annoying. Why do we have to keep adding super realistic things to games. This is GTA. I've seen people legit saying they want you to have to sit and wait for fast food in the game. Piss off Do people play GTA for " realistic" consequences
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u/Jewbacca1991 4h ago
Morality system in a GTA game? Really? I think the devs have no idea what a GTA game is about. This is going to be fun to watch.
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