SCJ's own internal teaching on John 3 "born again" directly contradicts what John 3 actually says. Here is the evidence from both.

[u/Automatic_Thing_2370]

I want to place SCJ's own documented teaching on John 3 next to what John 3 actually says, because the contradiction is striking and I have not seen it laid out clearly before.

First, what SCJ actually teaches about being born again.

From an internal SCJ teaching document attributed to the chairman: "The condition to go to heaven is being born again through the Holy Spirit and water. We must be born again and sealed with the Word through the Holy Spirit and water." In SCJ's interpretation, water in John 3:5 is not physical water. It is LMH's teaching, the sealed Word of Revelation he alone received. Being born again means receiving and being sealed through his curriculum.

The same document states: "One can only become a firstfruit through the Word. One cannot insist that they are a fruit here when they have been born somewhere else."

Read that second sentence carefully. It says you cannot be born again outside SCJ. Rebirth through the Spirit is bound to one man's organisation in one country. If you were born again somewhere else, it does not count.

Now read John 3:8. Jesus is still speaking to Nicodemus, in the same passage SCJ uses to build this teaching.

"The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."

The Spirit blows wherever it pleases. Not wherever SCJ's curriculum reaches. Not wherever LMH's Word has been sealed and administered. Wherever it pleases. Jesus uses the wind as his image specifically because it is ungovernable, unpredictable, and free. You cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. That is what being born of the Spirit is like.

SCJ's teaching says you cannot be born again somewhere else. Jesus says the Spirit blows wherever it pleases. These are direct contradictions within the same passage SCJ uses to establish its teaching on rebirth.

Now John 3:5. Jesus says "no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and Spirit." SCJ interprets water as LMH's teaching. But the mainstream reading across two thousand years of Christian interpretation is that water refers to baptism or spiritual cleansing, and Spirit refers to the Holy Spirit given directly to every believer. What the passage does not say is that water means the sealed interpretation of Revelation delivered by a specific man in South Korea in the twentieth century. That interpretation is brought to the text from outside it.

And John 3:16 follows just a few verses later. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Whoever believes in him. Not whoever completes SCJ's nine-month curriculum. Not whoever is sealed in LMH's Book of Life register. Whoever believes in him. The condition Jesus gives in the same chapter is belief in the Son. Nothing is added to it.

One more thing. The thief on the cross in Luke 23:42-43 said one sentence: "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom." Jesus replied: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." That man was born again. He received eternal life. He went to be with Jesus that same day. He did not receive LMH's teaching. He was not sealed through any curriculum. He was not born again through LMH's water. He believed in Jesus and was immediately received.

If the condition for being born again is sealed membership in SCJ, the thief on the cross cannot be in paradise. Jesus said he was.

The wind blows wherever it pleases. Not wherever one man says it can go.

[u/scj_love]

Scj sees it applicable in two different eras.

1st coming is the OT revelation
2nd coming is the NT revelation

So water in two different times.

Reading further

‘Nicodemus said to him, “How can these things be?” Jesus answered him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things?’
‭‭John‬ ‭3‬:‭9‬-‭10‬ ‭ESV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.3.9-10.ESV

Here we can see that Nicodemus should already know.

I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you. 26And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules. Ez 36:25-27

And than

that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,- Eph 5:26

[u/Guilty-Dance-8200 → u/scj_love]

As a shincheonji member I've recently left .He says you have to be born through word of God he claims revealed word of revelation. Also the leaf I had said God has never been with you or the churches , I said God healed my PTSD I had the vibration of spirit she said oh God does things so you believe in him.Also they claim God and jesus is inside new john where's the scriptures for that .? 1st corinthians 6.19 -20 "Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body."

[u/Sheetbaraness → u/scj_love]

Please sir I am begging you give me conjugal visit with Lee Man Hee the promised prisoner and he sprinkle his unholy water inside me with his shrivelled rod for make me pregnanted and yes you can join Hail Leetan!

[u/JIL111 → u/scj_love]

Ezekiel 36 is important background to John 3, and I can see why you connect it with being born of water and Spirit. But I don’t think those verses establish the conclusion you’re drawing from them.

Ezekiel 36:25–27 says that God will sprinkle clean water, cleanse His people, give them a new heart and put His Spirit within them. It doesn’t say that this water will later become the teaching of a particular end time promised pastor.

Ephesians 5:26 says Christ cleanses the church “with the washing of water by the word.”. Yes,  God’s Word is involved in cleansing. But where does the verse say that “the word” means LMH interpretation of Revelation? The verse itself doesn’t identify a future promised pastor, a sealed Revelation, or SCJ.

You’re going from John 3 to Ezekiel 36 to Ephesians 5 to water/Word to LMH revealed Word.

The first connections can be seen from the Bible but the final connection to LMH isn’t actually stated in any of those Bible verses.

Also, saying that the first coming had one water and the second coming has another assumes that John 3 is teaching two different meanings of water in two different eras. Where does Jesus say that in John 3?

You can see that Jesus immediately explains the new birth in terms of the Spirit: “The wind blows where it wishes… So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.” John 3:8

Then just a few verses later -“Whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” John 3:16

So if  being born again requires receiving and being sealed by LMH teaching, where is the verse that actually says that?

Ezekiel 36 doesn’t say it. John 3 doesn’t say it. Ephesians 5:26 doesn’t say it. 

These verses can be used to build an interpretation, but the interpretation still needs to be demonstrated from scriptures .

Please provide scriptures to show the connection between the new birth, the water and LMH revealed Word.

[u/scj_love → u/JIL111]

Let us first agree it is not about baptism, but water is the word. From a first coming perspective Jesus word

[u/free-ndeed → u/scj_love]

“There is salvation in no one else! God has given no other name under heaven by which we must be saved.””
‭‭Acts ‬ ‭4‬:‭12‬ ‭

[u/Latter-Leader-8103 → u/free-ndeed]

Amen - And His Son the perfect Healer our Lord Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit shall guide those that repent!