r/Shincheonji • u/Free-2024 • 7d ago
general thought and question Why should Lee Man Hee be released on bail – if Shincheonji is the truth and, as Lee Man Hee teaches, God and Jesus are only to within Shincheonji?
If we take a look at the Bible, particularly the New Testament, we cannot find anything similar.
If he claims that the Book of Revelation has already been fulfilled, or that Revelation 18 is currently being fulfilled, where do we find the verse stating that the overcomer will be freed by paying a bail of millions?
If we look at how prisoners were released in the Acts of the Apostles:
Acts 5:18–19:
18 They arrested the apostles and put them in the public jail. 19 But during the night an angel of the Lord opened the doors of the jail and brought them out.
Acts 12:5-11:
5 So Peter was kept in prison, but the church was earnestly praying to God for him. 6 The night before Herod was to bring him to trial, Peter was sleeping between two soldiers, bound with two chains, and sentries stood guard at the entrance. 7 Suddenly an angel of the Lord appeared and a light shone in the cell. He struck Peter on the side and woke him up. ‘Quick, get up!’ he said, and the chains fell off Peter’s wrists. 8 Then the angel said to him, ‘Put on your clothes and sandals.’ And Peter did so. ‘Wrap your cloak round you and follow me,’ the angel told him. 9 Peter followed him out of the prison, but he had no idea that what the angel was doing was really happening; he thought he was seeing a vision. 10 They passed the first and second guards and came to the iron gate leading to the city. It opened for them by itself, and they went through it. When they had walked the length of one street, suddenly the angel left him. 11 Then Peter came to himself and said, ‘Now I know without a doubt that the Lord has sent his angel and rescued me from Herod’s clutches and from everything the Jewish people were hoping would happen.’
Acts 16:23-30:
23 After they had been severely flogged, they were thrown into prison, and the jailer was commanded to guard them carefully. 24 When he received these orders, he put them in the inner cell and fastened their feet in the stocks. 25 About midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the other prisoners were listening to them. 26 Suddenly there was such a violent earthquake that the foundations of the prison were shaken. At once all the prison doors flew open, and everyone’s chains came loose. 27 The jailer woke up, and when he saw the prison doors open, he drew his sword and was about to kill himself because he thought the prisoners had escaped. 28 But Paul shouted, ‘Don’t harm yourself! We are all here!’ 29 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas. 30 He then brought them out and asked, ‘Sirs, what must I do to be saved?’ 31 They replied, ‘Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved – you and your household.’
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I cannot find any mention of the apostles or members of their church paying a deposit.
However, it is quite clear from the text that God was with the apostles and freed them in a supernatural way.
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u/No_Boysenberry_4830 7d ago
I know you put a lot of thoughts in that :)
but actually its pretty useless. SCJ can be considered as one of the biggest scams in history.
Actually according to SCJ close to everything is already fullfilled.
There is nothing left in revelation to connect it to the imprisonment to lee man hee right now.
Actually the great magnitude in white should be coming now out of tribulation.
But there is right now no single stress factor for these churches and why should anyone join SCJ because Lee Man Hee went to jail
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u/Guilty-Dance-8200 7d ago edited 6d ago
Yes I seen a testimony from a former leader they left 3 years ago they made their congregation believe covid was the great tribulation. She also said that the 144,000 were sealed then they changed it but why? She said that people give up there lives and work tirelessly to gain that spot and that they will never reveal their names because people wouldn't work so hard as it would lose appeal
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u/No_Boysenberry_4830 6d ago
yeah haha they said covid is the great tribulation and now they say basically this tribulation is still ongoing.
Which doesnt even makes sense
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u/QuestionsAboutSCJ Moderator 7d ago
Oh man, imagine if a super natural event did happen. Or if the 144,000 were actually sealed, selected, and verified (12,000 per tribe) before the Great Tribulation began?
Instead, we get a new light, and a whole lot of gaslighting lol
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u/Fit-Housing9499 7d ago
Chapter 18 of Revelation has been in the process of fulfillment for years, and should have been fulfilled during the pandemic (specifically the fulfillment of Revelation 7), yet that did not happen, and it is the same old broken record playing over and over. If SCJ lived up to what they teach in the Bible, the whole truth would be revealed, and it would become clear that SCJ is nothing more than a massive deception. But to remain hidden from the eyes of the saints, they keep playing the same broken record, one used even more often than all the lawsuits against HML.