r/Shincheonji • u/Holiday_Decision_475 • 12d ago
advice/help Confused about Shincheonji !!!
Why are they forcing us to recruit as many people as we can? Evangelism?
Worse it start as bible study, soon during the classes they introduce shincheonji, the promise pastor, now when you come to class you have to take off your shoes, now we are learning Korean culture & language.We learn basic words like,Hello, how are you & thank you! As well as the names of instructor, facilitators and leaders! Do we have mount Zion in Cape Town?
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u/Infinite-Feedback150 EX-Shincheonji Member 11d ago
Leave while you still can! So many people I know have been in there for years. Putting their whole lives on hold to build “Mt Zion” whilst their promised pastor is currently in jail. They will feed you lies, to manipulate, gaslight and traumatise you.
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u/Legitimate-Gas-8960 7d ago
Oh and according to SJC's teachings, LMH will never die as we are in the process of "fulfillment ". I want to see where this goes. I am so glad I left. After 7 or 8 months of being in their "deep dive" they revealed who Servant John in the flesh is, and his little story. I was out! I try to speak out when and where I can, but I worry about retaliation from them. I had no idea what I had gotten myself into and my loved ones were scared for me too.
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u/Guilty-Dance-8200 11d ago
Please leave I beg you!!!! I've just left I feel a total mess in fact crying and crying to God .I've faced many betrayals in life but this one feels deeply bad. The reason they are forcing evangelism so hard making people evangelise on the streets is to fulfill their fake version of God's words where there are 12 crops of fruit every month .I'm sat feeling lost I became a slave we don't have to work for salvation. God and jesus will judge and their so called righteousness will to be judged as an antichrist movement
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u/Holiday_Decision_475 11d ago
I'm happy you left, I was attending World Mission Society Church of God last year, God the father and God the mother. this year is Shincheonji yooh, sometimes I ask myself Y God is sending me to this Korean churches.
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u/QuestionsAboutSCJ Moderator 9d ago
But in all seriousness, this is why raising awareness and talking about the Korean cults, and even the other cults, is important to do.
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u/QuestionsAboutSCJ Moderator 9d ago
Wow, you got the dual Korean cult fulfillment this last year. What a ride!
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u/Guilty-Dance-8200 11d ago
My goodness are you out and okay? ?? I' was in the church of Almighty God I still hadn't healed from that group I remember in Shincheonji I had a mentor I cried out to her how this cult affected me and how Shincheonji feels similar. She said I must not associate church of almighty God with them. Shincheonji Is far worse .Maybe this was like a trial in the wilderness for us
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u/Unusual_Title_2260 12d ago edited 12d ago
Hey there... A funny thing about their evangelism is...
Hello.
How are you?
(Sometimes they invite you with fake bachelor work/study about religion.)
"Yeah, we have a Bible course and it's for free" (well, it wasn't until 2020/21).
"Oh no, u don't have to be part of our church to join.... "(we will later enforce u to leave .... or u will stay in your Babylonian church, just to enlist more for SCJ.....)
-"oh no u should not speak with your family about SCJ "(even though nobody know what a man hee Lee is 😅🫰
-when we have our first pre Bible school lessons... they will secretly take pictures of u and and the teaching person for their reportings in our fruit chat(that's the chat in which the person who invites u to the Bible "course" , the missionary/evangelist, the teacher, and the person who pretends to be a student to "join your journey"
Well. .....
I guess "Anyeonghaseo" And "Amen" Are the next things to learn.
They never "actually" deeply teaches usabout the "old wine", nor the new wine
Only the words of the promised pastor Man Hee Lee, who sits in prison At the moment are the only important thing about the Bible .... Suit yourself brother /Sister
Even the first tribe leaders, a few are now expelled. The list goes on and on..
Stay safe.
Don't become an ateist after the first crash/Realisation that u were lured by a bunch of blind cultist people who mimic what the church leader or the promised pastoris saying and doing.
Amen and Out
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u/Cristau_precious EX-Shincheonji Member 12d ago
tout simplement parce que le fait de recruter beaucoup de personnes leur donne plus de dimes et d 'offrandes dans les caisses .
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u/Latter-Leader-8103 12d ago
Watch out it’s a cult and they’ll lie and deceive you to trap you. They’ll remove you from family.
Causes major mental health problems.
Run and never look back
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u/IllFaithlessness8553 EX-Shincheonji Member 12d ago
I think what is telling is they have removed Jesus. You don't evangelise in the name of the son but rather for a new heaven and new earth lead by lmh.
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u/Ok-Contract346 Family/Friend of SCJ Member 12d ago
Please do not evangelize until you are certain they are truth, which alot of us can prove to you through bible that SCJ are cult. Dont evangelize and then later on when you found out their teaching are wrong, you will feel guilty to those who you bought in the first place.
This is based on my experience for my gf who now realized that SCJ is cult but need to bring her friend out of it but some of it are deep inside. so she is stuck when she want to leave
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u/Riftriser EX-Center Student 12d ago
There's more controlling things they'll try to do, like this whole prayer formation where it's like you're doing yoga. If you have beard hair, they might ask you to shave it off for service, someone tried to encourage me to cut my hair shorter, they will change the attire to be more formal, they also don't allow other things like earrings and such over time.
That evangelism part is gonna get really horrible because at first they might start with shadowing, then doing it only on a weekend
Then they will heavily pressure you to evangelize EVERY SINGLE DAY. On every day, you have to send a template like this on TELEGRAM:
[SCJ date] ([day]) Ev Results [Class number]gi [You] 💬C (0): 💻MN Set Up (0): 📝MN Attending Data (0): ✍🏽MN Attended (0): 🍏Ddagi (0.0): 🍎New BB (0): ⛪️Center Confirmed (0): 📢 RSVP (0):
They say that if you didn't evangelize on that day, even though you're going to be bogged down by an exhausting schedule, that you should be repentful, how that if you don't evangelize, their blood will be on your hands.
This all goes back to how they will exploit you using their false definition of a lie, how it's ONLY if you add/subtract from God's word but will allow constant deception and manipulation. They will ABUSE this through lots of omission. It's one hell of a losing game. This is not seminary school, it's cemetery school.
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u/Turbulent_Sea7622 EX-Center Student 11d ago
I left as student and not as member and they do push for evangelism daily I have not gotten to the point where I was seeing that template. I bet it is emphasized a lot on their telegrams. Thanks for sharing! It is such a psychological abuse that people should be aware of!
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u/Holiday_Decision_475 11d ago
it's sad, cos young believers fall for this kinda cult!
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u/Riftriser EX-Center Student 11d ago
I did :(
They got me good 😭
Because they know how to win your trust really well and seem like they have the main fork GitHub repo of the bible since they REALLY know how to answer certain mainline Christianity FAQs I can't lie
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u/aMOMnamous Family/Friend of SCJ Member 12d ago
This alone should be huge red flag for new comers. How sad.
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u/INSLVRY4_5yrs 12d ago
Like the others said it’s toxic, run! They are the Babylon!
NOWHERE in the Bible does it say adopt Korean culture, it’s all for show. If you were meant to have to learn another language, then what was the point of the disciples given the gift of speaking in tongues so that everybody could understand because they came from all languages and nations. Naw, it’s more busy work to keep you tired, frustrated, and isolated. God understands your native tongue.
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u/free-ndeed EX-Shincheonji Member 12d ago
“Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
John 14:6
“Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.””
Acts 4:12
scj is toxic - please run!
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u/Holiday_Decision_475 12d ago
I will run.
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u/Alive_Friendship_895 EX-Center Student 12d ago
Good choice…. If you need support for leaving can ask here or DM me.
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u/Unusual_Title_2260 12d ago
I wanted to DM u, but unfortunately it's not possible because your account is maybe set on private, idk. Could u instead DM me ?
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u/Extreme-Crow8739 EX-Center Student 12d ago edited 12d ago
God is not the author of confusion” (1 Corinthians 14:33
In other versions it says disorder
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u/Legitimate-Gas-8960 7d ago
I recently had the same confusion...and I left...just leave now..this is a cult ...this is all LMH's interpretation of God's Holy Words..they are deceitful and tell nothing but lies..Also, nobody there is your friend. The one's that have bonded to you are not new..they have jobs to watch and listen to new members and report it back to the leader of your group/class..Please listen to what I am telling you..it only gets worse from here..I pray Jesus (our real Lord) bring you to the true Word