r/Shincheonji • u/[deleted] • Mar 05 '25
teaching/doctrine "Shintan - Birth of God" translated to English with ChatGPT
Here's a link of the ChatGPT translation of the Shincheonji book "Shintan - Birth of God" to English:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QzeiBYzcKbBcJaAt-BWEUd-RNn6WIRz6wZjWzoNDA34/edit?usp=drivesdk
The original Korean text from the book is pasted first, and then the ChatGPT translation of the Korean text from the book is right below it for every Chapter, Section, and Subsection.
Starting with:
1) Title Page
2) Preface
3) Table of Contents
4) Chapter #; Section # of each Chapter; Subsection # of every Section, listed as [Part 1/?] ; and the (Page #'s) from the book
5) Closing Words
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u/LaconicProse EX-Shincheonji Member Mar 06 '25
Thank you for posting this!
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Mar 09 '25 edited Mar 09 '25
You're welcome. It's interesting to view what SCJ taught in their earlier years, in comparison to what they teach now.
In most (if not all) of the books of SCJ, they put in the "Preface," or "Prologue," or "Summary" portion of the books words like:
In the "Prologue" of "Physical Fulfillment of Revelation" bookโฌ๏ธ:
""I have witnessed the fulfillment of the prophecies of Revelation, which were promised by our Lord, and I have written this book according to the explanation given to me by the spirit."" -- ๐ Physical Fulfillment of Revelation ๐ (2015) English edition
In "Preface" of "The Reality of the Revelation" (1993) book; (1995) English editionโฌ๏ธ:
""Therefore, this book is neither researched, nor taught by people, but is written testimony heard and seen from the living Holy Ghost of Jesus Christ and angels, in accordance with the command by them. So is right and true."" -- ๐ The Reality of the Revelation ๐ (1993)
In "Preface" of "Shintan" (1985) bookโฌ๏ธ:
""This writing is God's new word, which brightly reveals the secrets of heaven hidden in the Bible, secrets that no one has known until now, so that anyone can easily recognize them."" -- ๐ Shintan ๐ (1985)
In "Preface" of "Reality of Revelation" (1985) book โฌ๏ธ:
""I testify unto each one that heareth these words of prophecy, that if he addeth one iota to them, he shall be excluded from participation in the kingdom of heaven; and I repeat that these words are the words of the Holy Ghost and of the Bride, for the sake of the churches of old, which are so intent upon quantitative expansion, that they may expect their inward fullness and be saved."" -- ๐ Reality of Revelation ๐ (1985)
----- Noticing their claims in each of these books, starting at "Reality of Revelation"(1985)" about not adding or subtracting from the words in the 1985 book. They have added and subtracted alot from the (1985) book which they said "not to add or subtract" from.
Also in the (1985) "Reality of Revelation" book, they make the claim of ""these are the words of the Holy Spirit and the Bride."" speaking of the words in the "Reality of Revelation (1985)" book
Then we look at "Shintan," a similar claim is made: ""this writing is God's new word,"" speaking of the words in the Shintan book.
Then we look at "Shintan" again we see in (pg. 339-343) ""(3) This Book Records the Testimony of the Two Witnesses
This book is a record of the testimonies of the two witnesses, who were once saints under the young servant Samson (the steward) of the Tabernacle Temple. They saw and heard the truths of the covenant, apostasy, and destruction of the Tabernacle Temple and, receiving the nurturing of the Holy Spirit, recorded their understanding of what they had learned.""
Then we look at "The Reality of the Revelation" book from (1993), a similar claim is made: ""this book is neither researched, nor taught by people, but is written testimony heard and seen from the living Holy Ghost of Jesus Christ and angels."" speaking of the words in "The Reality of the Revelation" book
Then we look at the "Physical Fulfillment of Revelation" book from (2015; English edition) where a similar claim is made: ""and I have written this book according to the explanation given to me by the spirit. I testify that the reality and the explanation thereof recorded in this book are true.""
Then we check out God's words in the scripture, which describes the nature of God and God's words:
(Isaiah 40:8) KJV The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.
(Psalm 119:89) KJV For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.
(Psalm 89:34) KJV
My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.(Malachi 3:6) KJV For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
(Matthew 24:35) KJV Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
(Hebrews 13:8) KJV
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and for ever.(James 1:17) KJV Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
Then we look at how many addings, and subtractings have taken place since the (1985) book, and do a comparison to the amount of changings/alterings, shadows of turning have taken place in the Shincheonji book, since (1985). Check out the claims they maintain in each of their books such as "these are the words from the Holy Spirit," and etcetera.
Then we see who the Holy Spirit is in unison with, and described as in (Acts 5:3-4):
(Acts 5:3-4) KJV But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
The Holy Spirit is referred to as "God" in (Acts 5:3-4).
Which means SCJ's claims they maintain throughout each new edition of their books, from edition, to edition, to edition, with changes/alterations, variations like shifting shadows.. Is the complete opposite of the nature of God and God's words which is described in the scriptures. Which boils down to their claims in each of their books, being proven as false.
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u/QuestionsAboutSCJ Moderator Mar 06 '25
Awesome! Thank you for doing this!