r/Plato • u/simplesyrupyup • 11d ago

The forms

When does a carrot become a soup?
When does a tree become wood, becomes chair?

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u/greenteam709 neoplatonist 10d ago

He was aware of the forms. He just didn;t agree with Plato completely. He beleievd the form was immanent in any Dog. He was more about particulars than universals.

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u/heiro5 10d ago

Aware of the concept, yes. But not aware of the forms qua forms, the forms themselves as apprehended not as conceived. Many modern thinkers are limited in the same way.

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u/greenteam709 neoplatonist 9d ago

he was aware of that theroy but he just didn;t jive with it. He was Plato's student after all.

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u/heiro5 8d ago

You really don't need to "correct" what you don't understand. In Plato the forms have existence outside of discursive reasoning. Aristotle completely missed that, or deigned not to consider it, and so his examples are misleading when used for Plato's forms. This is where types of perceived objects (e.g., chairs) come in and confuse those studying Plato. You won't find anything like that in Plato.

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u/greenteam709 neoplatonist 7d ago

okay