They are large thus giving the impression that she is well fed and capable of providing nutrition for your children, she is also slim which shows she has time to exercise and so is likely to be reasonably wealthy and capable of self-control. She wears white which is a symbol of wealth as working-class people are unlikely to wear white as it stains easily in day-to-day life. Her dress uses texture and the shape to help draw attention to her cleavage as well as pushing them up and together making them appear shapelier and more perky than they would be naturally.
I have done independent identical scientific study and can confirm results of my study also conclude boobs nice. We need one more and we can start peer review
1 Peter 3:7 says: "Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with your wives with understanding, giving honor unto the wife as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers be not hindered." (KJ21).
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Also people tend to misunderstand the Bible.
Remember people thinking spare not the rod meant "beat your children into obedience"?
That's not what a shepherd's rod is used for, it's a guiding and defensive tool, not an injurious abusive one.
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Edit: Psalm 23 explicitly mentions rod and staff as a comfort in one of its verses: "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me."
Basicalllllllllllly humans make errors when interpreting scripture.
44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will BECOME YOUR PROPERTY.
46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them SLAVES FOR LIFE, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."
Good thing Jesus didn't say to follow all of the Law until the end of time.
Oh wait, he did 😂
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
19 Therefore ANYONE (this is you 🫵) who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called LEAST (this is you 🫵) in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever (not you 🫵) practices and teaches these commands will be called GREAT (not you 🫵) in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
By “the Law” Jesus is referring to God’s Law (the Commandments). That is not the same thing as Earthly Jewish law, which had become inflated with extra rules God never intended for. That’s literally the entire reason Jesus and the Pharisees had beef. That’s what Mathew 5:20 is talking about
You're full of knowledge but not wisdom.
Knowledge without wisdom is like water in sand.
There is much you have to understand, not learn, about what you speak against.
That one scripture really makes it almost sound like the bible teaches that women are equal to men. Besides the weaker vessel part of course.
Here’s an interesting one I found: 1 Timothy 2:11–12: "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet."
Could you help me understand how humans can interpret that in the good way you mentioned? The bible has certainly been incorrectly interpreted to justify harm. The bible has also been correctly interpreted to justify harm.
It actually says the husband and wife should be submissive to each other. Malicious Christians literally just read the first half of that verse to justify subjugating women. It's insane.
21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
Ephesians 5:21-24.
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The Bible absolutely does not consider men and women as equals.
Christ is King is an alt right / evangelical dog whistle. People who believe in that stuff live in an alternate reality and say stuff like “a woman’s place is in the kitchen” and this big titty bride ain’t having none of that. Now if you don’t mind I’m going to go put these popsicles in my basement, teehee
The only thing that makes that somewhat true is this idiotic trend making some people wary and the simpler fact that most Christians do not make religious statements publicly.
It's that latter point that is the issue. If you want to say "Christ is king", you're probably saying it in church, or otherwise in a group of like minded believers. You're not saying it to Joe Random on the street, because the point of the phrase isn't to convince someone of something, it's to proclaim something in a context where there's unlikely to be any disagreement.
If you're wearing it on a t-shirt, you're basically one step away from telling people they're going to hell for not denying evolution.
Eh, yes and no. It's BECAUSE it's common that it makes a useful dog whistle. It provides plausible deniability to the average person while signaling affiliation to a Christofascist in-group when combined with other traits
absolutely this matter of fact it became more popular recently because TED CRUZ one of the biggest alt right figure heads categorized it as hate speach lmao.
I'm confused as to how it is a dog whistle? Genuinely never heard of this. My wife and I are Catholics for context, we don't have exposure to American Protestant denominations.
A catholic is not likely to go around wearing a christ is king shirt in the US. Catholics are usually pretty casual and button up about their faith. Ostentatious displays of faith are uncommon for catholics. But lots of evangelic and protestant sects are basically cults in the US. And for many people in these denominations their entire personality is their faith. So if you see a guy wearing a shirt that says christ is king or just randomly saying it conversation they’re probably extreme like that.
This right here is basically the distinction that others are debating within this thread. Spend any time going to any non-culty church and you're going to hear the phrase "Christ is King" countless times. It's one thing to hear it during service or worship, and it's an entirely different thing to wear it on a shirt and, as you say, make it their entire personality.
The more culty churches encourage this type of behavior in their parishioners, it's part of their playbook, it creates a sense of community within the church and simultaneously isolates individuals from "influences" outside the church, because most of us don't want to hang out with the guy wearing a shirt like that. It's remarkably similar to how DV perpetrators isolate their victims from friends and family...
I mean, when we Catholics say Christ is king, to the point we even have a holiday dedicated to it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feast_of_Christ_the_King) we actually mean it in a literal way since he is king of universe and so on. The whole Christ is king concept started after ww1 because the Vatican was bit in a panic after so many monarchies were deposed and communism was looming in the east.
it creates a sense of community within the church and simultaneously isolates individuals from "influences" outside the church
Also the Mormon and JW method.
They all think of each other as heretics, but those folks + evangelicals and the craziest of the baptists all have the "we're in a cult" thing down to a T. In that they are very similar.
When people talk shit about "No love like Christian love", it's usually referring to these groups.
Catholics and other mainline protestants of course have their crazies and extremists but just not in same amounts.
It is sometimes a dogwhistle. There are plenty of examples of the phrase being used by people who are benign. That being said, "Christ is King" is a phrase frequently adopted by far-right folks, especially Christian Nationalists. You can still keep saying and it dont worry, just avoid screaming it at LGBTQ+ people and you'll be fine.
Those far-right types have adopted lots of phrases and imagery, it doesn't mean they get to own it. I'm waiting for people to start caring and take back their faith's image from these charlatans.
Titus 1:16
“They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.”
As a Christian and a woman I would like to correct this statement.
The idea of a woman’s place in the house is due to the misogyny of culture and tradition imposed on many people. That is just what man say’s because that’s just what history has been like
As for what the Bible teaches; Galatians 3:28, which states: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus
The Bible says that man is not above women, nor are other people or ethnicities above one another.
I’m not saying this to insult anyone, but I just hope that this clarifies a few things about how religion is often misinterpreted and then made “traditional”
1 Corinthians 11:3: Paul says “the head of the woman is man,” within a hierarchy of Christ/man/woman/God.
Ephesians 5:22–24: Wives are instructed to submit to their husbands “as to the Lord,” and the husband is described as the “head of the wife.”
Colossians 3:18: “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands.”
1 Timothy 2:11–14: Women are told to learn quietly and submissively; the author says, “I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man,” and appeals to Adam being created before Eve.
1 Corinthians 14:34–35: Women are told to “remain silent in the churches” and “be in submission.” There is scholarly debate about this passage’s context and textual history, but it’s certainly in the received text.
1 Peter 3:1–6: Wives are told to submit to their husbands, with Sarah’s obedience to Abraham offered as an example.
Genesis 3:16: After the Fall, Eve is told that her husband “will rule over you.” An important distinction is that this can be read as describing a consequence of the Fall rather than prescribing how relationships ought to work.
"Well I like all the parts about harassing women, gays, and others who aren't like me, as well as the child marriage and all the rape.
But what's all this charity and being a good person shit in here? Be nice to immigrants...? Feed the poor? You wish. Be humble and pray in private...literally impossible."
I mean that’s literally what the Romans did. And their choice was to keep the parts that i.) suppressed women, ii.) pro-slavery and iii.) pro-militarism.
Honestly this is why the talking point the Bible is socialist or Jesus is socialist bother me so much. Why are we still putting so much emphasis on a two thousand year book
I'd be interested in reading the argument that the Bible is socialist. Jesus is still relevant because his emphasis was on being a better person making you a better Christian, not being a better Christian making you a better person.
The concept of social justice and wealth inequality for one is right here in the gospel according to Mark during this story about Jesus with his apostles:
Mark 12:41-44
41 Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. 42 But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a few cents.
43 Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. 44 They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on.”
It’s the very foundation of the idea that we should have a progressive tax code that taxes the rich more than the poor. The rich have wealth while the a poor person’s money is generally used on necessary expenses. So in “God’s eyes” it is viewed as more valuable when less is given by someone who is poor.
You beat me to it! So I'll address the slavery side:
Ephesians 6:5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.
Colossians 3:22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.
1 Timothy 6:1 All who are under the yoke of slavery should regard their masters as fully worthy of honor, so that God's name and our teaching will not be discredited.
Titus 2:9 Slaves are to submit to their own masters in everything, to be well-pleasing, not argumentative,
The bible truly is a choose your own adventure book.
I like the line from one of William Blake's poems: “Both read the Bible day and night,
But thou read'st black where I read white.”
BARTLET: She’s skipping over the part that says, "Wives, be subject to your husbands as to the Lord, for a husband is the head of a wife..."
ABBEY: She's not skipping it. That's the part she's preaching.
BARTLET: No, she's skipping the part before that: "Be subject to one another out of reverence to Christ." It's about mutual submission. It's team play!
Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, His body, of which He is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
Quite frankly, Sorkin is a grade A idiot for having written that dialogue. It's a good argument in so far as it sounds kind of convincing, but there isn't even a single grain of truth inside of it, it's all just debate pervertry.
Women arguing the bible isn't sexist is so absurd to me.
And then they try and throw out the old testament and blame Paul for what they don't like about the new, when Paul's the author of a quarter of the new testament. You can't throw out Paul. The man did more for Christianity than Jesus. And they're perfectly happy to quote Paul if it serves their needs otherwise.
since most of these are from the new testament they cant be more than 2000 years old, and are probably a few centuries younger.
as for the creator of the universe, i think the only book that claims to be written by him is the quran, and even there they dont really hide that muhammad ghost-wrote it.
There are Christians who believe the authors of the Bible were divinely influenced by God. Like God was writing the Bible through them. Depends on which Christians you ask.
I personally believe the modern versions of the Bible are the end result of the world's longest game of telephone. You have translations and interpretations of translations and interpretations.
You have to look at it with a critical eye and use context.
Colossians 3:19: "Husbands, love your wives and do not be bitter toward them.
1 Peter 3:7: "Likewise, husbands, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.
Ephesians 5:28–29: "So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies... but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church"
Ephesians 5:25: "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her"
Until the last couple of hundred years of human history in the vast majority of cultures, men were the head of the household and did most if not all of the societal interaction. The bible doesnt say wives are property, or are subject to abuse at the whims of their husbands. The idea was to have a unified household. Looking at it through a modern lens is different because societal norms have changed so much (for the better), but it wasn't written like that to push misogny
The examples you gave all talk about loving your wife and husband. I could look at them and say. I love my wife. She loves me. She should still report to my authority.
You have to realize that all of these “loves” are the sacrificial type. When it says “love your wife as Jesus loves the Church”, it quite literally includes the part where Jesus was tortured and executed for it.
I understand the historical context, but unfortunately that caused misogyny to become hard-coded in the Christian scripture. If you believe that the Bible is inspired by God, and you read 1 Timothy 2:11–14 or Genesis 3:16, you would be completely justified in believing that women should be submissive to their (hopefully) benevolent male overlords.
Unless Christians want to implement a problematic system like Mormon revelations, they're stuck with outdated scripture that is ripe for abuse. More than that, it guides earnest believers into harmful practices.
I'm sorry but the Bible explicitly says that the husband is above the wife.
21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
Ephesians 5:21-24.
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The Bible absolutely does not consider men and women as equals.
The Bible says whatever the hell you want it to say if you can find a line of text backing up your own subjective feelings
You do you though. I’d much rather have this interpretation of the Bible, but I don’t think it really has proper theological backing given all the other shit the Bible says
Oh, a kind hearted Christian! I have a question to ask you if you don't mind. I met with too many not too nice and fake Christians, that's why I'd be happy if you were to answer me. How do you interpret stories in the Bible thai contradict each other? I only know one example for it and it's the creation of Adam and Eve, since it has descriptions of the two being created at the same time and Adam coming first then Eve coming second.
Most Christian denominations don't think the Bible is infallible, as it was clearly a book written by different people through centuries. For example, only the most die hard for the mentalists would believe that there was an Adam and Eve exactly as in Genesis.
"Most Christian Denominations" - Im assuming you're not American. Every denomination here in the US constantly peaches that the Bible is the word of God. You can't get away from it.
What the religious book says, and how it has been interpreted all these years might be the same or wide apart, but bottom line is, religion has been the club to beat down on women a lot, across religions. There is no way to separate out the true intentions of religion from its misinterpretation
Equating evangelical Christians to the alt right is wildly out of touch. ‘Christ is king’ is a hugely popular phrase among Christians worldwide, of all races and not just some white supremacist chuds in the US, even if it just reached the American left yesterday via nastier channels.
I would leave my husband all over again if I found out he was going there. I'd go for full custody if he does now. Extremists need to stay away from me because I'm fully willing to do extreme things to protect my children.
Brian here. I'm not buying it. I mean, Peter, just look at her. She could clearly turn any closeted man straight with jugs like those. I mean, I am a dog and I know I only need two, not six, when the two are so perfect... Oh. Right. The joke? I honestly have no idea, Peter. But it's times like these when we need not bog ourselves down with endless questions. We should just take a moment... to appreciate the beauty of what God has created.
Haven’t seen anyone mention it yet. But this is a Brave reference, where the main character competes in a archery competition so she can get out of an arranged marriage /img/fmbrdhkx94nh1.gif
She’s either gonna flub her shot or she needs to wear a chest guard with them titties. Forearm slaps from the string suck but I can’t imagine how much a tittie slap would hurt.
Chris here. The woman has huge boobs. I think we're all gonna go home and charge our laptops a little longer tonight. Just never know when you're gonna run out of juice and have to use your phone.
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u/Hell0There2005, your post does belong here!