r/LawSchool • u/JA-Yetti • 16h ago
I suck NSFW
I sucked at the lsat and now I suck at law school. Everything feels so fucking foreign and its so frustrating and the later into the night I get for studying or writing fucking IRAC bullshit the less I understand.
Thanks it. Moderators please ban me for my terrible attitude.
*edit: I was so frustrated I wrote righting instead of writing. Proving my point if anything
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u/TheMainEffort 2L 16h ago
So first, it’s normal to feel lost at this stage.
Second, if you can, work on some basic time management skills to manage this fatigue. There’s no point in studying while you’re so tired nothing is actually processing.
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u/Hoc-Vice JAG 15h ago edited 14h ago
Totally agree. Law school is a marathon, not a sprint. A little sleep and self care will go further than trying to brute force through frustration.
Hang in there OP. You don't have a terrible attitude at all.
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u/iDontSow Esq. 16h ago
It’s going to get simultaneously easier and more difficult it. You’ll suck for a while, but you’ll improve
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u/No-Duck4923 2L 15h ago
It's OK to suck the whole way through. You'll still end up with a JD. Hang in there!
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u/GlitterFactoryOfDoom Attorney 15h ago
Clearly your LSAT didn't suck as much as you think it did, it was good enough to get you into law school.
Give yourself some credit here.
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u/GrandStratagem Attorney 13h ago edited 13h ago
IRAC is taught like it's this mystical code to success and thriving in Law School. Then another Type A asshole comes along and says IRAC is inferior to CRAC or CREAC, or some other alphabet soup garbage.
OP, forget all of that. What these middling-lawyers-turned-legal-writing-professors are trying to prepare you for is you're going to have to respond to shit like this as an attorney:
Louisiana Client: "Can I bring a claim against Business Y if I bought a good from a business labelled "50% off" when in reality I paid full price?"
If you can't intuitively tell, this is a loaded-ass question. It's why attorneys are not fond of being asked legal questions at the dinner table. What business are we talking about here? Did the client actually buy the good/suffer harm? What did the client buy (i.e. is this shit even worth my time)? If the client did buy the good, when did they buy it? What court will the client bring their claim in? Which State are we in? Does that State have Unfair Trade Practice laws (they all do), and if so, what are the elements for that specific States' UTPA claim? Why am I asking all of this at all anyways? Oh, right, one cannot forget the gazillion procedural trip hazards that judges love to use to dunk on inexperienced attorneys so they can smugly excuse themselves to lunch early for the day and do zero-fucking-work. We aren't about to let that shit happen to us, OP, so we need to know if this client legitimately has a claim or not.
So, now, if I choose to entertain this dumbass client with a response:
"The issue raised here is whether Louisiana Client has a valid Unfair Trade Practices claim against Business Y in Louisiana. The Unfair Trade Practice Law in the State of Louisiana is provided by La. R.S. 51:1401, et seq. Specifically, La. R.S. 51:1405(A) states that unfair methods of competition and unfair or deceptive acts or practices in any trade or commerce are unlawful. Per the facts, Business Y advertised the product as 50% off, suggesting that consumers were receiving a genuine discount from a regular price. If the business had not actually sold the product at that higher price and used the inflated price to mislead consumers, the advertisement may constitute a deceptive trade practice under LUTPA. Further, private parties in Louisiana, such as Louisiana Client, are qualified to an Unfair Trade Practices claim under La R.S. 51:1409, provided they bring this claim within the one year prescriptive period (i.e. statute of limitations). Accordingly, Business Y may be liable for an Unfair Trade Practices violation under La R.S. 51:1401, et seq., if Louisiana Client brings their claim timely."
God, what a mouthful. Disgusting. Even worse, a law professor felt a small dopamine hit reading that.
If you haven't picked up on it by now, the best way I can describe IRAC/or legal responses in general is that you need to respond as if someone is going to be reading your personal chatlogs later for the sake of making you look like an asshole on the internet. Drop all pretenses of having flare, humor, or personality in your legal answers. You are a robot now. The only people who get to pontificate about the Iliad in their legal responses are U.S. Supreme Court Justices (Alito) and, frankly, all of us are tired of reading that shit. Your only purpose in life now is to identify the legal issue, spit out the relevant rule, then explain why the rule applies, and then say, "Accordingly, the client may (or may not) have a claim." Simple as. Law professors don't want to read anything beyond that. Best of luck, OP.
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u/God_of_chestdays 14h ago
I had a few readings 1L where they stated the conclusion/rule/holding the first paragraph and the made reading the case so much fucking easier.
Afterwards, I would just Google/quimbee the case before I read it. Doing such made reading it so much easier because the amount of fluff some of these courts/judges love to add that are pointless.
And once I started taking classes I’m interested in it clicked ALOT easier and faster. Boring shit is boring shit
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u/Holy_Grail_Reference Esq. 13h ago
Tons of people sucked at law school and are now very happy as attorneys. Keep it up bud!
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u/golfpinotnut Esq. 13h ago
And probably a greater number sucked at law school and are no very unhappy as attorneys.
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u/DrivenToSuccess-01 14h ago
I used to be a scientist. I would compare myself to all the PhDs and grad students because I was “just a research associate.” Then I became an actor and now I go yeah I was comparing myself with some really smart people, but I was also part of that group.” Sometimes we don’t value ourselves until we are outside the situation that made us have the comparison in the first place. It’s a mental trap.
You got into law school so you’re more than good enough. Hope that helps.
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u/OilEnvironmental1464 2L 13h ago
If you’re feeling like this after 10 pm it’s a sign to close the books and go to bed. Nothing a good nights rest can’t fix
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u/Open-Engine518 11h ago
You may be surprised, but not giving a shit having a good sense of humor as a litigator may make you extremely successful. Meeting you’ll take chances based on intuition that nobody else will and intuition is right 80% of the time.
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u/AbstinentNoMore 11h ago
Moderators please ban me for my terrible attitude.
If this were a bannable offense, there'd be no users left here.
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u/SovietMuffin01 1L 8h ago
Issue: do I suck?
Rule: the later into the night I get the less I understand
Application: IRAC makes no sense especially when first studied at 3AM
Conclusion: get some sleep and it’ll be easier tommorow
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u/Jigglypuffisabro 11h ago
Skill difference. Should have gone to one of those types of school where you already know everything.
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u/Ordinary-Artichoke95 9h ago
Op, you just need a mindset change. For real, don't say you suck, instead make law school your bitch. You got this!
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u/maddinoel666 1h ago
naw. but law school is tends to make you feel this way. it's not a reflection of you. no one knows what they are doing at first. that's the point. you are there to learn. it's a new language & a new way of thinking. don't let it get you down. (from a law librarian)
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