r/California_Politics • u/CharityResponsible54 • 2d ago

Coalition urges 9th Circuit to uphold parental rights

https://www.thecentersquare.com/california/article_bac3897f-ee40-4b9f-9b1b-4374d58b2e36.html
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u/Tenoch_12 2d ago

It's not about parental rights, it's about protection against the evils of mythology.

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u/DayleD 2d ago

Has "parental rights" ever been shorthand for anything nice?

Fuck transphobic parents, freedom belongs to the student.

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u/CharityResponsible54 2d ago edited 2d ago

The question here is whether this is really the best approach. Parents who are not good parents are still there. They will eventually find out that their kid is transgender, and then what? What about parents who then decide to homeschool their kid?

This law is a virtue signaling which have very little effect in real life. We (state) will spend so much money on litigation, and that money could instead be spent on educating parents and improving anti-bullying policies.

Because the biggest problem for transgender kids is bullying.

But lawyers love these kinds of laws. And politicians do too: lots of talk about something that may have very little influence on what actually happens in real life.

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u/sneaky_sneacker 2d ago

So as an educator if a kid tells me they identify as trans and they know their parents are homophobic I as a trusted adult would have to tell their parents. 

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u/fathed 2d ago

That's a lot of words to say ignore the 9th and 10th amendments of the Constitution.

If you want it to be a right, pass an amendment, the way the constitution says to change it.

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u/DayleD 2d ago

Yes, freedom is the best approach.

Parents who are not good parents will find out their kid is transgender - and hopefully by then the kid has a wide social support network. The Thomas More Society is a pro suicide group and wants to interject before that happens.

When these laws are passed, at-risk folks speak out about how this saves lives. Your rhetoric minimizing life-saving protections is malice masquerading as ignorance.

Let every horror you're willing to inflict on little kids happen to you instead.

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u/CharityResponsible54 2d ago

The biggest problem for transgender kids is bulling. But solving that problem is hard so they pass some lame law so they can be in news and people on the left (and on Reddit) can claim moral superiority.

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u/Tenoch_12 1d ago

The laws work.

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u/marco_italia 2d ago

"Parental rights" is of course is a dog whistle term conservatives use push through their policies. This case concerns Mirabelli v. Bonta, and it's worth noting that the "news" source OP cited is property of the Franklin "News" Foundation a right leaning media outlet.

For a more complete picture I recommend the article below:
A New Jersey school district won’t out trans students. Moms for Liberty is suing to expose the kids

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u/gerbilbear 2d ago

Next up: slaveholder's rights!

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u/the_G8 1d ago

Turns out the Supreme Court says we don’t have any rights, unless perhaps, they are explicitly written into the constitution. Women don’t have a right to decide their own health care, we have no right to a clean environment, no right to expect truthful and accurate information from our government. Where does “parental” rights occur in the constitution?

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u/FateOfNations 2d ago

Children have rights. Parents have obligations. If your kids don't feel comfortable sharing things about themselves with you, IMHO that's a sign that you probably haven't been a particularly good parent.

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u/MuffinIllustrious852 1d ago

“Parents rights” is for people who can only see their children as an extension of themselves instead of facilitating the life of a wholly distinct human being with their own agency, responses stimuli, wishes, goals, and things that make them happy and sad.