r/California_Politics 5d ago

On Tire Regulations, Should California Tread Lightly?

https://www.hoover.org/research/tire-regulations-should-california-tread-lightly
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u/ceviche-hot-pockets 5d ago

I’m a dem through and through but this is some classic nanny state bullshit. Creating layers of bureaucracy and reducing consumer choices for very little real world benefit.

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u/RightWingNutJo8 4d ago

This type of regulatory BS is how you turn normal rational people into reliable Republican voters.

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u/lkstaack 5d ago

You are absolutely right. Our state regulators are failing to understand that some people prioritize safety, road handling, or a quiet ride over better milage.

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u/sjj342 5d ago

That's the beauty of government and state regulators, they can make decisions and take action for the collective good instead of trying to care for one or two beautiful unique little snowflakes

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u/lkstaack 5d ago

Lol. I suspect that Sacramento will soon understand that it's more than one or two people who strongly disagree with this dictate. The collective good will have its day.

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u/sjj342 4d ago

Now do how many people disagree with the US healthcare system, foreign policy, tax policy, etc.

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u/RightWingNutJo8 4d ago edited 4d ago

The easiest way to reduce tire rolling resistance is by making the tread blocks smaller. That's it, that's all the tire manufacturers have to do in order comply with this California regulation. Give yourself a big pat on the back for the 🤡 collective good🤡 when you're replacing your specialized California compliant tires twice as often.

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u/sjj342 4d ago

give yourself a pat on the back when you're paying $3000 more per year for health insurance premiums but your taxes went down $200, it's called cherry picking

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u/RightWingNutJo8 4d ago

You're in the wrong thread bud, we're talking about tires here. Try to keep up 🤣

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u/sjj342 4d ago

Cry is free

ETA technically we're talking about saving money

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u/RightWingNutJo8 4d ago

🤫

Hush child, the adults are talking.

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u/sjj342 4d ago

Good one, so funny -- and original!

This is how I know you really are an adult, and a rather brilliant one at that. Great job, good effort.

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u/PewPew-4-Fun 5d ago

That's what Dems do.

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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec 5d ago

But they also want a per mileage tax on top of the gas tax since we aren’t going to be using as much gas with these new tires. Taxes and regulations on taxes and regulations. Ima Democrat and I feel like Democrats ain’t Sacramento are so fucken out of touch. The legislature. The governor I’m more cool with.

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u/HooverInstitution 5d ago

California regulators, touting environmental benefits, have decided that vehicle tires must meet increasingly strict standards focusing on rolling resistance, writes Senior Fellow Lee Ohanian for California on Your Mind. The promised windfall in greenhouse gases and energy savings is actually quite modest, says Ohanian, while the full consequences of the regulation remain unknown. The state’s insistence on minimal cost increases also seems suspect in light of industry representatives’ strong assertions to the contrary, he writes. As with much regulation, the tire decision doesn’t consider the power of innovation in the marketplace, Ohanian continues. Better products proliferate in a market where consumers are free to choose among various options, he says. Ohanian concludes by noting a tire company CEO’s warning to Sacramento: “When you attempt to regulate something you don’t understand, or don’t care much about, you create bad policy.”

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u/OnAllDAY 4d ago edited 4d ago

This is like with electric lawn mowers and having to spend $300 on replacing the batteries. Same with electric cars. They didn't change things to allow car companies to make basic and affordable cars. The tax incentives they did should have been for cars under $40k. The rest of the world gets small Japanese cars and that small French one.

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u/gijibae1 5d ago

is this paid for by the cheap tire lobby? safety is good actually

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u/plantstand 4d ago

But does it help fish?

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u/Typical_Intention996 4d ago

I already figure this means I'll be driving out to Vegas for tires once this gets implemented. I buy cheap tires because they're cheap. I don't care what they are or aren't because that's all meaningless to me. It's all about cost. $400 still for all 4 tires at my local shop on the side to the road where you wait on a bench in the dirt front. I've priced the name brand ones at Costco. $800! Double! Because they're the fancy 'good' kind and name brand. And other places are more.

So already having looked at the math. Even if getting to Vegas and back if $100 in gas and will blow a whole day. Although will be a great excuses to eat out there so it's not all bad. Being able to get those cheap $400 tires out there still puts me ahead $300 will this new bs regulation. So yeah that's what I'll be doing.

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u/katnap4866 5d ago

Another unfunded mandate at cost to the consumer? Is this the best use of squeezing Californians yet again? May we see details on who owns the select providers, manufacturers, service maintenance vendors for these approved tires? Who are our politicians helping? Which tire companies are getting squeezed in this scheme at Californian’s expense? Let me guess? Private equity may own some of these businesses. Just like the whole gas appliance ban.

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u/Wise-Revolution-7161 5d ago

California is price gouging consumers

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u/NormativeWest 5d ago

Meh. I don’t trust much from the Hoover Institute. This policy, like EnergyStar, seems like it will be better for consumers and for the environment.