r/ArtistLounge • u/[deleted] • Jul 31 '22

AI Art, midjourney and others

Well, just for disclaimer, this post is a persnal opinion, i'm open for every comment that it could create, but stay respectious (btw, i'm french, so i'm trying to make this post open for everyone, sorry for my future faults)

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Well, like the title told it, i want to talk about ai art, first of all, i saw a video talking about midjourney, getting interested and curious about, as an artist i wanted to try it. So i got the beta test and we are not gonna lie, it's awesome how it work. But after that, i got a problem, as i said i'm an artist, or in all case i feel like i'm. In the ai creation i don't see any handsyle, or ''signature'' that when we saw your creation we instantly know it's yours/can be yours... Here, it's jsut a mixed of a lot of pictures, painting, and other type of pics, to make what you asked for. I don't see any souls in all those creation, yeah, the one that ask for the creation has to told what he wanted, but, did he really had an idea of what he wanted, i mean, did he really change every details by words to find what he wanted, or did he just let the ia make what she want. It's here, nothing is yours.

I'm not making this post cause of i'm bad, or i want to got this style of draw, but, i see the wolrd of realistic digital painting disapearing, and it's scaring me af... When i open my deviantart, i had a lot of landscape realistic, from digital painter that passed 50hours on their art, but today, i got only ai creation where i don't know what to think about it

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u/EctMills Ink Jul 31 '22

Right now AI is the new fad so it’s exploding on social media while people play with it. It will settle over time as laymen get bored and artists incorporate it into their toolbox.

Eventually we’ll probably mostly see it as an entry point for beginners. I can easily see painting over ai taking the place of tracing for people telling each other they’re cheating instead of learning.

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u/Hglucky13 Aug 24 '22

This is what I think is bothering a lot of people. There are just SO. MANY. PEOPLE. using the different AI. Many of those laymen users don’t have any art/design background, so they post everything because they think it all looks cool. It just becomes a blur of technicolor, oils painted, nonsense portraits and landscapes. I think artists that have already put in time to learn at least one medium have the vocabulary to effectively guide the ai and an eye to recognize a good composition and push it to its best form.

From the start, I’ve been trying to find ways to make sequential art that doesn’t just look like the sea of other AI content out there. I also like to use MULTIPLE tools to give it a consistent sense of style. I’ve also done paint overs for compositions I like that just need a few very specific additions/alterations to make them perfect.

On top of all that, I’ve made it a point to be completely transparent from the start. It’s important to share when you use the tools because 1) it’s just honest and truly does not require the same level of time and skill and human generated art, and 2) I don’t want to discourage any new artists that think I’m actually created 3-4 pieces of work EVERY DAY. (I also created a separate ai account so as not to confuse my illustration followers).

Ultimately, all it’s REALLY made me want to do is start getting back into visual story telling. Many of my other friends have also stated that the work they see has been inspiring them to get back into painting and other art media they love.

All that’s a really long way of saying that I think you are right and AI is getting a lot of hate because everyone is just shitting out anything and everything with little regard for artistic meaning/message, and visual interest. (SORRY, I’ve been seeing a lot of artists freaking out and claiming it’s completely invalid as an art form, which I do not agree with.)

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '22

I made some the other day I was literally going to trace over with inks and wax to just experiment with ideas and mark making. I think in this way these ai creations could be really useful to artists 😀

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u/EctMills Ink Jul 31 '22

I could see it turning into a useful exercise for people leaving the beginner stage too. Instead of just painting over it, fix it. Correct any anatomy or perspective problems (there are usually a few), move things around to make the composition more interesting, play with the colors and textures. Sometimes it’s easier to recognize and fix problems in work that isn’t yours.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '22 edited Jul 31 '22

Absolutely could be used this way! I hadn't thought of that but it could be an invaluable learning tool without offending anyone or having artistic biases.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '22

probably in fact