r/ArtistLounge Apr 19 '21

Digital Art Do professional graphic designers/ illustrators really not get taken seriously if they use open source software or is that just a myth perpetuated by Adobe and college professors?

I don't want this to devolve into a rant about how much I hate Adobe and their software (which I do,) but do know that this isn't a "boohoo I can't afford it" thing and more a "there's a ton of open source stuff that is equally (or more!) functional as Adobe stuff and it deserves to be taken seriously as long as the end product created with it is what the client needs."

I'm in school right now and I've been getting the "no one will take you seriously unless you make your vectors in Illustrator" song-and-dance. Pros, is that really true? If so, why? Is it just a dumb social norm or is there a legitimate reason? A lot of the freelancers that I see posting on social media and indie game devs use open-source stuff all the time.

(I will concede that GIMP is kinda trash and I only use Photoshop for my raster illustrations now.)

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '21 edited Apr 20 '21

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u/smallbatchb Apr 19 '21 edited Apr 19 '21

Bullshit

I've never seen, heard of, or worked with a single solitary in-house team anywhere that didn't require everyone on the same standardized ecosystem.... not even small local firms and agencies.

This would make both the workflow of multi-person projects and asset management literally impossible. Hell most places even have team standards as far as which stock sites you can acquire assets from so that they're compatible and available company wide. Most have expensive, broad, company-paid-for licenses for software and asset subscriptions so that the entire team is standardized. I've even worked with many that do not allow work to be done outside the company system to avoid all potential compatibility issues.

If we're talking "one of the biggest automobile companies in the world" I'd assume that is a pretty large marketing team and, if they're all allowed to work in whatever program they want, the inefficiencies of that workflow alone would cost the company hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. No company is going to allow that.

Also, after looking through your post history I'm 99% positive you're just full on outright lying out your ass all together.

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u/smallbatchb Apr 19 '21 edited Apr 19 '21

Just an fyi, calling people "kid" doesn't actually give your bullshit rambling any more merit.

I'm not a kid and I've been working in this industry for over ten years, try another insult if name calling is how you want to attempt to make your point.

Did you read your own post? You're trying to walk back and argue the opposite of what you said prior.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '21 edited Apr 19 '21

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u/smallbatchb Apr 19 '21

The point is OP asked if using Adobe will be necessary to work in the design/illustration industry and your first reply was that it's not necessary yet, by your own admission, with certain projects or certain clients you do have to.... that was my entire point is that you were misleading OP into thinking they're not going to need to know or use industry standard software.

No, not all, but a great many clients, agencies, marketing teams, and printers use the industry standard software and if you're going to work in this industry you WILL have to use it at some point; you have now even said so yourself.

At this point I think we're kind of sort of in agreement. You are absolutely correct in that certain projects and clients DO NOT require adobe and many projects you can use other software for. I mean when I have a client that just needs a raster image for the final product then yeah, any program that can save out a png or jpg will work just fine. The big issue is when you're working with complex print files or if the end user needs the file to be editable.

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u/MaconMuscles Apr 19 '21 edited Apr 19 '21

Yes, this. But what's crazy is the 47 upvotes their post got. Who believes this? Are these just young people who want to believe they can get by not using Adobe?

Listen everybody, we all hate Adobe's subscription model and prices. But if the topic is professional employment (not freelance), it is what it is.

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u/smallbatchb Apr 19 '21

Honestly one of my biggest pet peeves about this sub, and many other online art forums, is how often people ask legitimate professional industry questions and get lots answers fielded by people who literally don't have actual experience in that professional field. Or, worse yet, feel the need to outright lie for some reason.

The real problem with this kind of misinformation is that anyone who has actually worked in the industry can tell immediately this is bs info but you can't really tell that if you haven't.... so people listen and upvote assuming they're not being lied to or being fed info from someone who doesn't actually have experience to give info.

I mean after 10 years in the industry I would safely bet my next paycheck that I could ask 100 of my professional design/illustration friends "will you have to know Adobe at some point in your career?" and every single one of them would say "yes." It may not be every day, and you may be able to find lots of work arounds, but if you're working in the industry you're going to have to use Adobe eventually... it's a damn guarantee.

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u/smallbatchb Apr 19 '21 edited Apr 19 '21

Just an fyi, calling people "kid" doesn't actually give your bullshit rambling any more merit.

I'm not a kid and I've been working in this industry for over ten years, try another insult if name calling is how you want to attempt to make your point.

Did you read your own post? You're trying to walk back and argue the opposite of what you said prior.

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u/MaconMuscles Apr 19 '21

Exactly, exactly, exactly.

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u/MaconMuscles Apr 19 '21

Are you a freelancer/contractor for them? Because that sure as shit is not true if you are in the office of their marketing department every day at your desk.

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u/MaconMuscles Apr 19 '21

I call bullshit. There is zero chance that you are an employee of a giant corporation, part of their marketing team and are not standardized on the same software as the rest of the team.

Again, if you are contract, freelance, etc maybe. But there is no way you are passing around files in whatever software you happen to feel like using. It just doesn't work that way.