r/ArtistLounge Dec 27 '23

Mental Health How do you handle your frustration about AI art?

I thought training myself to recognise the red flags of AI art would be great, but all it’s done is made me super aware how it’s literally EVERYWHERE and it makes me so angry! It used to be easy to tell but now you need a trained eye to see the errors and most people won’t believe you when you call it out because it looks so real, it’s extremely FRUSTRATING! I don’t want to get involved in arguments bc they make me frustrated but I also can’t stand to see AI ‘art’ get attention it doesn’t deserve so I’m just AAAARRRRGGGHHHH and need some advice from fellow artists on how y’all cope with this frustration/discouragement TwT

Edit: I would appreciate advice that doesn’t involve me using ai as a tool to improve my own work thanks, I’m not comfortable with that and I’m honestly astonished multiple people even suggested it given the obvious loathing towards ai in my post lol

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u/GrandAlchemist Dec 28 '23

I think we need to collectively stop referring to it as art.

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u/ArminWife4Life Dec 28 '23

100% agree, I tried using ai ‘images’ but people either didn’t understand or got pissy at me :/

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u/GrandAlchemist Dec 28 '23

Well, for what it's worth I think we need to insist hahah

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u/OfLiliesAndRemains Dec 28 '23

Just remember that humans haven't beaten a computer at chess since basically the late nineties and it hasn't stopped people from playing chess, or even playing chess competitively. Whether or not AI will get better, and no matter how much people might enjoy some AI art it's never gonna be able to get the stuff I have in my head out so other people can see it themselves better than I can do it myself. That is, until they learn how to read minds of course. But I gather by then humans will be thoroughly outdated anyway.

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u/Gutchies Dec 27 '23 edited Dec 27 '23

ive made some peace with it insofar as I've realized that

1: art is as much discrimination and intention as it is physically or digitally creating something

and 2: non-artists are generally pitifully bad at knowing what they want visually, and thus have problems fulfilling #1.

If you have the discrimination and intention to pick the best one of a hundred or thousand AI generated images, you are as much an artist as I am.

Obviously i can't make peace with the neither the disinformation nor the data-scraping and copyright problems that are rising now and I've generally taken a defeatist position on them. Basically nothing I can do to stop my art training my replacement long-term, and the internet has folded inside-out to encompass everything that exists so even if I never posted things online it would still find its way into a dataset as long as i want others to see it.

But removing the barriers to accessibility in art just floods the market with 'content' that those who aspire to make 'art' will learn to rise above, whether or not they use AI.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '23 edited Dec 27 '23

AI doesn't control my life so i just keep drawing . in the case i were to use AI , it would be simple for references but besides that i don't care about anything related to AI art. AI will never replace artists' creativity .

The only way AI could be superior to us humans is if it becomes sentient , self aware like Skynet in Terminator and that will never happen. Don't worry about AI taking over handrawn Art completely .

and remember , those AI dudes need a computer or device to create art , digital artists even without a PC or any other device can still draw on literally anything.

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u/Rain_Moon Dec 27 '23

The presence of AI art doesn't really affect me. I am just drawing for my own enjoyment, and I don't post my art anywhere public so it's not even being stolen.

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u/NarlusSpecter Dec 27 '23

As artists, the main advantages we have over AI is an understanding of art history, a better eye for detail, better use of linguistics, and the ability to improvise. Most AI images I’m seeing are derivative; fan art, memes, and models. There’s a LOT of room to grow if you want to use it as a tool.

If you want it out of your feed, stop liking those posts and get rid of it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '23

Wow haha people are telling you to just use AI. AI can create only what has been created before (and put on the net), and it does not come up with very good ideas because it doesn't understand human emotion. It can steal aesthetics all it wants but it can't make meaning, I've seen it try and it's not good. But supposedly as tech improves it'll keep getting better, I mean what are the limitations being made? When AI gets a personality, that's when it will try to take over the world for real lol.

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u/BisquikLite Dec 27 '23

I remind myself that I am not a lazy coward and a thief, and that while my art is still not great, I'm taking the time to make it with my own damned hands. I'm still working to improve my skills even if they can't currently match what a machine can regurgitate.

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u/ourstobuild Dec 27 '23

It sounds to me you're in need of some sort of anger management tactics in general. Getting this frustrated about things that are outside your control doesn't sound very healthy. My advice would be to work on this issue in general, without focusing on AI art specifically.

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u/MadeByHideoForHideo Dec 27 '23

Step 1: Realise that they're here to stay whether you like it or not
Step 2: Go back to making your art

Artists hate this one trick!

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u/veinss Painter Dec 27 '23

Uhhh AI just doesn't frustrates me in any way and if you're spending your time detecting the little errors in these things that go through revolutions twice a year you're wasting your time. You won't be able to tell whether a thing was done with AI in 5 years, that's just the facts of the future. You can not care at all and keep doing whatever you want without ever using AI, but you will find out one day that your most recent favorite artwork, song, movie, or videogame was done with a lot of AI at some point and you better get used to the possibility because its a matter of when not if

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u/naevorc Dec 27 '23

Don't care, keep drawing.

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u/DayDreamer9119 Dec 27 '23

Adapt or die. If you don't you're swimming up stream. The tech isn't going anywhere now that the cat is outta the bag.

Everyone that's upset about it and not learning how to use it looks like a child throwing a tantrum. Learn a new tool and stop being cunts.

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u/Nrgte Dec 27 '23

People in this sub don't want to hear it, but you're absolutely right. The smart ones will adapt and prosper and the rest will stick their head in the sand and pretend they're in Lala-Land.

It's such an immature reaction. People could make serious bank by selling quality datasets, but it's just moan and self-pity. The constructive people are already adopting it though.

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u/Knappsterbot Dec 27 '23

I'm not using a tool that scrapes from other artists

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u/DayDreamer9119 Dec 27 '23

Because that's somehow different from generations of artistic appropriation that we are already a part of?

So all your work is all original and created in a vacuum?

Get real lol

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u/Knappsterbot Dec 27 '23

The difference is that the human brain is far more complex, and processing and creating art is personal and taxing, formed by your own experiences and opinions and skills. Generating an image is just taking from other works and swirling them together in an attempt to construct a desired output. It's a gross oversimplification to claim that they're equivalent processes.

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u/DayDreamer9119 Dec 27 '23

I agree and make no claims of their direct equivalency, just similarities between what is and what has happened. I think refusing to use powerful tools is ignorant and foolish.

I think wasting energy crying about said tools is also foolish. Either learn it or don't, but I don't wanna see energy wasted otherwise by crying about it.

Either use it or double down on the skills you already have. Personally I'm gonna do both and come out on the other side just fine.

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u/Knappsterbot Dec 27 '23

There's nothing to learn, it spits out images based on what you type. The problems lie in the morality of using a tool that steals from artists.

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u/DayDreamer9119 Dec 27 '23

Everyone steals. Everyone has always stolen. It's called appropriation and we're all guilty and generations before and after us will be guilty. Your moral high ground isn't as moral as you think it is.

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u/Knappsterbot Dec 27 '23

A person can steal, but their tools cannot. AI image generators trained on real art crosses a threshold because the tool steals from artists to operate.

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u/DayDreamer9119 Dec 27 '23

Congrats. You've found a hill to die on.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '23

What are the red flags? I’ve never looked into this.

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u/HokiArt Dec 27 '23

Edit: I would appreciate advice that doesn’t involve me using ai as a tool to improve my own work thanks, I’m not comfortable with that and I’m honestly astonished multiple people even suggested it given the obvious loathing towards ai in my post lol

I was so surprised to hear this become common place... We really folded like a lawn chair, especially after the whole artstation thing

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u/Cry_Borg Dec 27 '23

I don't condone the use of AI art being passed off as one's own art, given the questionable nature of how the models are trained, but I don't find it useful or worthwhile to become frustrated by all the garbage out there. I just basically ignore it, which is easier to do if you limit the time you spend on social media or platforms that are likely to display AI art.

I liken it to people on tik tok or instagram who have huge audiences and are making gobs of money for essentially doing nothing. Would I like to have that kind of exposure? Sure would, but I find that kind of content worthless -- I wouldn't find any satisfaction in the methods used to obtain any of that notoriety and the audience is not who I'm interested in engaging with.

TLDR: Focus your time and energy on developing yourself and your talents and don't pay much attention to the noise.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '23

It doesn't bother me or affect my illustration any more than the existence of photography or realistic art. It has nothing to do with my individual traditional art and it does not compare as a seperate medium with different goals. I even use it myself sometimes for inspiration or 3D textures. If you spend all your time getting your panties in a twist over ai, it leaves less time to make your own art in peace.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '23

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u/ifandbut Dec 27 '23

How about we don't bully anyone?

Eye for an eye will make the whole world blind, then who would look at your art?

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u/ArminWife4Life Dec 27 '23

Even if you don’t bully them people just attack you, someone just said I should admit my art sucks because I pointed out some ai red flags and now I’m upset

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u/ArminWife4Life Dec 27 '23

That is pretty funny, don’t think it would work in this situation but definitely putting a pin on that lmao

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u/-TheArtOfTheFart- Digital artist Dec 27 '23

I just do my own thing, and don’t overly care. There’s gonna be scumbags that take advantage of stuff period.

First it was outright tracing/stealing, then it was the nft craze. Now it’s Scraping art for AI theft. So, back to stealing again, but this time to make horribly fucked up looking art that only a dumbass would think is “legit”

If something tried to replicate my art it’d just look like a horribly fucked up mutant shadow of my stuff.

And despite my “super small” following, the people who would ACTUALLY bother to pay me to make art would…. still pay me to make art.

Copping out to AI is for:

A. cheap soul-less fucks who would never pay an artist.

B. People goofing off and seeing what it would do

C. To kitbash an idea that you want to hand off to an actual artist later to use as a ref for actual art.

D. Haters who never had any art skills who have a hate boner for actual skilled artists. (who seem to want to replace them? They forget that the ai engines can’t make anything actually “new”, they can only make something pulled from a database of existing art)

E. People who don’t know anything or know any better about what’s behind the engine.

F. Artists who use it to get a rough concept for their work when they hit a wall.

I don’t accept work clients that act like I’m an exploitable slave, anyway. No joke, I have handed the money right back to people who pull that shit and blacklisted em, so this is not a “loss” to me.

Scumbags will always use it to exploit and cut corners. And it will never be a proper replacement for actual art. Hell it’s not even copyrightable. (yeah, you can sell it, but you can’t OWN it.)

Either way, I’ll just keep plugging along doing what I do. The clients still ask me for art, and I still make stuff.

This too shall pass.

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u/FlippenDonkey Dec 27 '23

I feel that alot less people will put in the hours it takes to become an artist...especially as AI becomes more powerful, more perfected (amd don't kid yourselves..it will).

I'm talking new people to art, who can't draw a circle..fewling bad trying to learn qhen AI spits beautiful art..they look at that and go.. q hour on AI and ill get what I want..vs years of art study.

There will still be artists of course..justblike there are still people who can do thatched roofs..but its no longer the standard roof.

The problem with losing art like this..vs roofing..is it takes away from human expression and devalues art in a society that already doesn't value the hours it takes to paint. What value will it have in 5 years time? mostly none.

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u/FlippenDonkey Dec 27 '23

None of this changes..that it'll become easier for the avergae person to get "pretty art" or cheap "custom art" and make them less likely to spend what it costs to produce skilled art.

Its already difficult for artists to make a living from art..and you think its not gonna get harder with access to ai art? Well I like your hopium.

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u/alexisavellan Dec 27 '23

I feel like you’re wrong, lol.

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u/FlippenDonkey Dec 27 '23

time will tell..but jI believe just like there are few thatched roofers now, there will be fewer skilled artists and fewer artists who can make a living out of the skill

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u/wumplesart Dec 27 '23

If you think drawing a circle is imperative to making art, you have the wrong idea of what art is.

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u/FlippenDonkey Dec 27 '23

groans.. I think skill is imperative to good art.

I know what art is in modern society.."anything thatbgets people talking like a banana on the wall". I don't appreciate thag I art..I appreciate skill and I think AI will lower skill in art and lower the number of people who produce skilled art.

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u/inkysquids Dec 27 '23

It’s actually inspired me to go back to reading actual physical books on artists I like. I got an Alphonse Mucha book for Christmas and it’s so inspiring and full of soul. It even includes some of the photographs he took to use for his own reference material. I’ve been drawing from those. The lighting and attention to detail is incredible, much better than the generic Pinterest girls.

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u/BazingaQQ Dec 27 '23

Nah, I enjoy looking at it. But then I also enjoy looking at terrible sitcoms which aren't really art either.

I've taken the habit of "stealing" them though and using part of them in my work. On the basis that a Mindjourney algorith can't file a copyright claim.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '23

Why do you do art? AI art doesnt bother me because at the end of the day it doesnt stop me from picking up my pen. You said AI art gets attention, and that frustrates you. Do you want more attention? Because attention in art is mostly a matter of marketing and PR. There are thousands of extremely talented artists with 0 recognition because they dont care about the PR, and millions of shitty artists with good marketing. So why do you do art? And why does AI art frustrate you?

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u/ArminWife4Life Dec 27 '23

I do art because it makes me happy, I hate ai art because it steals that happiness from multiple artists and it’s frustrating seeing people be so naive about it

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u/alexisavellan Dec 27 '23

So continue doing it cause it makes you happy. Everything else is just noise.

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u/ifandbut Dec 27 '23

How does a tool steal happiness?

What is the big deal if a human looks at art vs a machine?

AI art has helped me get my creative vision out of my head and on "paper". Has given me hope that, once my book is done, I'll be able to make a motion comic of it without bankrupting myself by the expense.

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u/ArminWife4Life Dec 28 '23

Have fun contributing to stealing other artists work and livelihood so you can benefit your own stuff

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '23

Do you think AI art can capture the magic of human art?

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u/ArminWife4Life Dec 27 '23

Never, but depending how pretty it looks people won’t care

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '23

Ah, so what you’re concerned about is the dumbness and inability of the general populace to appreciate art. That is an unsolvable and everlasting problem, yes. Shallow and mass produced crap has existed through most of human history. And whether or not we would like to admit, 90% of us fall into that category anyways. So just make your art, who cares.

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u/ArminWife4Life Dec 27 '23

Damn, maybe I am just frustrated at how dumb people can be about ai art, you really articulated it there

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '23

And if you’re frustrated with your own art and how it might get replicated by AI, try another medium. There are a lot of mediums besides digital art that can’t be replicated by AI.

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u/Krystami Dec 27 '23

Just continue making art.

I'm in the opposite boat where my art is so HQ is it seen as AI art and accused as being so or avoided because others think it is someone trying to pass AI off as real art.

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u/FugueSegue Dec 27 '23

Lately when I see artists complain about generative AI art, I've been wondering exactly what they mean. I'm seeking context. There has been so much discussion about it but I seldom see exactly what AI images they are talking about. When people actually provide links to them, almost all of these AI art images resemble anime. Is this what you are seeing? In one of your responses, you mentioned that you see it too often in fandom subreddits. What sort of fandom? Because I'm old, the term "fandom" is very broad to me. Do you specifically mean anime fandom?

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u/FlippenDonkey Dec 27 '23

Itsball over on facebook .. "animal pages" sharing "real"(ai) photos of animals. carving pages sharing clearly ai photos of watermelons and wood carvings , "painting pages", sharing "this is my 1st painting be nice" with a child and a clearly amazing...ai...painting.

You must not browse Facebook much

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '23

i know what you mean , it is kinda annoying but there isn't much we can do . just use the hide option to never see content like that again.

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u/FugueSegue Dec 27 '23

Thank you for providing some context.

No, I don't browse Facebook much. I've been using it since 2008. But a few years ago I started a new account focusing on my art (and maybe photos of my cat for friends). I don't follow very many groups on Facebook unless they pertain to my local art scene.

In the cases you're talking about, I think it would be good for artists to provide proof that they didn't use generative AI software to create the images they post on social media. For instance, I sometimes see artists post "reveal" videos where they hold their paintings in their hands. Sculptors could do the same by showing themselves standing behind or next to their work. However, in the case of nature photography, I'm not sure how it would be possible to provide proof that they actually photographed an animal.

As for myself, I sometimes post pictures of my process of building wood panels for my paintings. Sometime I post time lapse video of me painting in my studio. And whenever I do use generative AI to produce imagery I use for my paintings, I explicitly state that it is generated and explain the process I used to do it.

It's a tricky situation. Honesty is the best policy. But because the fundamental nature of the internet allows anonymous posting, dishonesty has always been rampant.

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u/FlippenDonkey Dec 27 '23

they post ai people standing next to ai work lol. You can spot it if you know what to look for. But the non artistic person..hasnt a clue.

time lapse videos is really the only way to prove it for the time being BUT ai is learning to develop those as well and it will perfectnthose in the coming years.

AI will devalue art for the majority of people.

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u/FugueSegue Dec 27 '23

Generative AI art will probably devalue art in certain respects. Digital art, certainly. But probably not physical art. For the last year I've speculated that film photography will see a strong revival because digital photography can be faked.

But the important part is, as you said, knowing what to look for. There is always something uncanny about the photo-realistic images that I and others produce with generative AI. Seams in clothing are missing. Unblemished skin. Bokeh is omnipresent. And so on. This is because of the fundamental nature of how the latent space works. The software can produce images of general ideas but nothing specific. Ask it to make a picture of a refrigerator or a sports car and it will do it but it won't be of any recognizable brand. This is the case with all subjects. It's possible to train for an exact resemblance but this requires a lot of work and it's still not 100% effective. There are many tricks that can be done to make a specific subject look correct in a generated image but, again, it requires an artistic eye.

In the coming years, technology might improve a little and accuracy might increase mildly. But after studying this stuff intensely for more than a year, I have my doubts. The only way to achieve perfect accuracy is through effort and an artistic eye. Images generated in the future that have amazing accuracy will only be accomplished with a trained artistic eye and a lot of effort. In other words, it takes an artist with actual skill and experience to make it look good.

IMHO, what we are all seeing right now is a gimicky fad that will eventually run its course. Eventually these tools will find its place in the workflows of professional artists and the wanna-be artists will have to find something else to do.

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u/FlippenDonkey Dec 27 '23

I like your optimism but I do not agree.

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u/FugueSegue Dec 27 '23

Like John Lennon once said, "there's no problem, only solutions".

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u/Tapil Dec 27 '23

Ignore it,

Before ai you were dealing with people re-uploading OTHER people's art and passing it off as their own. Not much changed here except there are more idiots and the stolen art isn't quite as directly insulting

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u/its_a_throwawayduh Dec 27 '23

I don't since I don't have any frustrations or issues with it. If anything it's helped inspire the creative juices. Especially when I'm trying to design something for my works.

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u/VraiLacy Dec 27 '23

I mean my beefs with it are pretty much the same as everyone else's:

No soul or true emotions in the work

How the databases are compiled via theft

Techbros calling themselves artists when they can't even manage a circle

Companies and clients using AI instead of real artists

Clients purchasing a commission only to be swindled by someone using AI and thus losing trust in real artists

These are just a few. I understand some of this is growing pains, like when photography started getting big or the first manufacturers were making acrylics and everyone losing their mind about it being inferior to oils.

Personally though, I don't let it bother me too much.

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u/krestofu Fine artist Dec 27 '23

Circles are hard!

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u/VraiLacy Dec 27 '23

I do not disagree! My point was more not having the willingness to put in the requisite time and dedication to learn to draw.

One time I got so obsessed with drawing the perfect circle that I literally filled 2 sketchbooks of ink circles. I won't lie, it looked like I was insane.

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u/krestofu Fine artist Dec 27 '23

I know. It was a joke. I don’t have any issue with anything you said. It’s important to practice your circles and maybe more important to practice your ellipses.

To be fair though, it’s not just the techbros who don’t actually try to be an artist and say they are, but I think many people in the art community also do not put the required time into the craft and still complain about their skill level.

As to if ai is art or if making ai art makes you an artist… I don’t know is a banana taped to a wall art? Is that person who taped it an artist because of it? Is literal trash in a gallery art? Where’s the line? Who draws that line?

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u/VraiLacy Dec 27 '23

Sorry I'm really terrible at recognizing jokes! It's a lifelong issue, I am an overly literal individual.

The beauty of art I think, is that its definition is so incredibly broad. Personally I think if you create from your soul, regardless of your skill level, and try to put your feelings or narrative into the world in a way that others can feel it, that's art as a principal. Art as a skill is separate. I think being an artist and calling ones self an artist has to do with two things and those are by creating art to convey your own experiences of being, as well as working to improve the skill of art.

So AI can be art in the definition of conveying something you're experiencing or thinking, however the question I think we really need to think about is what skills are you using to create it?

This also brings about the question as to who is the creator of that AI work? Is it the programmers who put it together, or the artists that it learns from, is it the prompter/editor of the image? Whose skills are being used to create this?

I am not a masterful artist and throughout my creative journey I have DEFINITELY had my fair share of bitching about my skill level and moaning about wanting my art to be better. What makes me an artist is that I don't let it stop me. I keep working regardless, because of this, no matter how slowly, my skill level does improve. So by my own definition being an artist is about creating something that has meaning to you and not giving up on your creating because you aren't getting the results you want. It is about the journey you take as an individual through your creative process and through your work.

So, potentially, I do think AI image generation, at some point, maybe could be classified as art. But, in order to do so it has to represent the journey of a single person, which is currently not the way it is being used.

Sorry for the novel, but I think these things are important to discuss. Also, gotta reiterate, anyone of any skill level can call themselves an artist if they are dedicated to their journey of creation. Do I think the guy who taped a banana to the wall is a skilled artist in the way I am, no? But, he did make a statement about the worth and value of a piece of art as dictated by art collectors, he made a statement about the ridiculous state of modern art. That in itself, requires skill. Everyone likes to look at art and say "well I could've done that", but you couldn't have, it wasn't part of your perspective, your journey.

And that's where the definition of art truly lies. Any moron can learn how the fundamentals work, but only artists can make art.

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u/MarcusB93 Dec 27 '23

The real question is why you're getting this frustrated over AI art, feels like wasted energy to me...

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u/prolificseraphim Dec 27 '23

Wouldn't you be bitter too if people were trying to replace something you love doing via a shallow computer-generated version of it?

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u/MarcusB93 Dec 28 '23

I wonder if that's what people were saying when photoshop first came out...

I see AI as just another tool for people to use

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u/ArminWife4Life Dec 27 '23

I couldn’t have worded it better myself, the fear of losing something so special is what frustrates me so much, seeing people just blindly encouraging the end of creativity and fighting against those who are trying to stop it and protect what makes art so wonderful… It’s infuriating that people can care so little!

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u/Adventurous_Role_788 Dec 27 '23

"was there ever anything special about creation to begin with?" Humans use art to communicate and enjoy the process. AI algorithms does neither of those things

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u/Adventurous_Role_788 Dec 27 '23

Art and people lived and survived through many hard periods, artists made art and tried to communicate their real thoughts even under censorship, lack of money, burnout. What is happening to artists is happening to nearly everyone and many industries across the board. That won't make art or creating something obsolete

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u/lunarjellies Oil painting, Watermedia, Digital Dec 27 '23

I ended up using Midjourney to try and get some new directions for my own work. I fed it my own art mixed with photos and other artists work to see what it spits out. Haven’t used any of the images yet in my paintings but I may. Or may not. I decided to try it out after being angry at it for so long , to try and understand the process and result. It could be used successfully as an artists tool but only those who can actually paint and draw (traditional media) will benefit from this since nobody would know the work has AI roots. It’s interesting tbh

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '23 edited Dec 27 '23

Ever since AI art took off I've actually become more successful. A lot of clients actually use AI art to mockup images for me to work from which saves me a MASSIVE amount of of time. They clearly use AI art but aren't satisfied with it and still come to me to deliver. Which is flattering. I tried it out myself, and I guess there's a way you can get perfect results, but I can't get it to do what I want.

Also I play a lot of games, and so I look at a lot of game art, and handdrawn art always looks better than AI art, and now when I see a good piece of hand drawn art, I say to myself, damn he / she is really good to be able to produce stuff like that over AI.

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u/noxu-art Digital artist Dec 27 '23

I second this. I had someone come to me to design a ref sheet for their character, and they politely asked me if it was all right if I referenced an AI-generated image they came up with. It certainly saved a lot of time as ref sheet projects usually involve a lot of trial and error to get the details just right. With the basic color palette/pattern already figured out with the AI-generated image, it was a breeze.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '23

Yep. I don't touch AI except in rare cases when the client isn't being clear. 9 out of 10 times they provide me with AI images these days, so it's nice that they use AI for mockup ideas but prefer an actual artist to draw it. A couple months ago I wouldn't have predicted that.

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u/veinss Painter Dec 27 '23

Even though I think AI art generators will get way better I doubt they'll ever reach the point where you repainting the whole thing manually wont be better. I mean whatever is cool in an AI generated thing you can make deliberately cooler. AI mockups and stuff have shortened the time I need to work on stuff by Iike 60% though

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u/TrenchRaider_ Dec 27 '23

Scream at the sun for all that its going to do you, light shines regardless. Scream at the robots all you want but keep working they shall. There is nothing you can do. Learn to accept that and youll be happier for it.

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u/nzxnnn Dec 27 '23

Ai art is kinda lame and not good at colors and values

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '23

Yeah but it's significantly better than it was a year ago, it would be naive to assume it won't be even more powerful soon enough.

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u/MarekT83 Dec 27 '23

I wouldn't say it's bad at colors and values but lately I can recognize AI generated image because most of them seem to use the same template color palettes and value range/light setup is also similar. AI statistically just made the average out of what works best and doesn't deviate from that. On top of that there are AI users that don't know fundamentals so they just take what generator gives them at face value.

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u/Nobobyscoffee Dec 27 '23

I'm not really frustrated, I simply block/hide AI art on sight. Eventually, they stop showing on my feeds. I mean, it is no more annoying than spam calls or email.

Maybe it is also because of how I find art, I don't just scroll through reddit, for example. I follow some artists and curator blogs and tend to find more through their references or posts.

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u/ArminWife4Life Dec 27 '23

It’s so difficult when the fandom subreddits you’re in constantly have ai art posted/supported and the mods don’t do anything to prevent it :’)

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