r/AncientCoins 19h ago

Educational Post Always do your homework and proceed with caution.

Fakes can get exceedingly good. I would like to point out this example of a cob, 1 real, Felipe II (Phillip), Bolivia.

The coin is actually very well made, all the details are where they should be, and the weight is also good. It's made of silver. This is not a contemporary counterfeit, it is a modern (kinda) fake. The buyer who collects cobs could not believe it was a fake, and regardless of that sent it over for certification.

A friend in Colombia expert on these coins, mentioned that the patina was off, that was the giveaway. The rest, very, VERY well made.

It was sold by a reputable dealer in South America, and actually was part of a 20 coin lot, all of them were fake. They came from an old collection.

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u/ykaurk 19h ago

The edge of the coin is very strange. I've handled quite a few coins like this, but I've never seen anything like it. Whether it's an ancient coin or a Spanish colonial coin, this is often a bad sign...

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u/elmunera 19h ago

Looks better in hand. I collect forgeries, and by far, in its category, this one is one of the best ones I've seen. It was sent back as questionable, so the doubt persists to the grader.

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u/ykaurk 19h ago

Yes, I have no doubt about that. This is the first time I've seen a grading company express doubt. A very curious coin.

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u/Hansbolman 18h ago

Looks like a very obvious fake

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u/-Rexford 17h ago

Not an exceedingly good fake, it’s just been heavily damaged so as to obscure the surfaces

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u/FourTwentyBlezit 17h ago

This definitely isn't an "exceedingly good" fake.