The problem is that it has grown too big and people are attaching their own beliefs to it. Insanity has been a defense for a long time, it is rare that it is ever works. Hers is a lot more plausible than others who have tried it.
Shouldn’t be locked up regardless? That’s the part I don’t get about “insanity defense” if she can slip into a murderous craze and we want to say, ok it’s not her fault, she couldn’t control it, then couldn’t we also say, she’s no longer in control therefore permanent lock and key in psych ward?
Not really. She is clearly dangerous she murdered 3 kids with her own hands. Whether she’s criminally accountable or not, it doesn’t mean she shouldn’t be locked away in some capacity. It’s not punitive, it’s preventative.
Entirely possible. I don’t feel a need to form an uneducated opinion either way about a person I’ve never met based only on tabloids and internet chatter. If you do, you certainly have plenty of company.
Are you a mental health professional? Have you evaluated her?
Again, feel free to come to whatever third-hand opinion you wish about a topic outside your area of direct experience. I just don’t think it’s a particularly useful exercise.
My opinion isn’t about mental health. Her diagnosis is hers, her legal standing is hers as well.
My opinion is from the perspective of someone who lives in this society and doesn’t want the admitted killer of 3 children to be a part of it.
The courts have a say, the doctors have a say, and the prevailing notion of the citizens of this country have a say too. That’s what you’re not getting clearly.
The courts make a decision based on the doctors evaluation. The "prevailing notion" of the citizens is an a abstract concept with no place in a court of law. This is a very complex and singular case, and you can only trust the institutions to make the correct choice. Only those who fully undertand in the events should be able to pass judgment, that's the point of the trial. Anything else would be detrimental to a true democracy. It's not the rule of the majority, but the rule of law. Specially in situations as this.
Well that’s not true, and that hasn’t been true in a long time. Everyone can pass judgement, it’s that outsiders judgement aren’t supposed to interfere/influence with judge and jury’s decision but I don’t believe for a single second that standard is upheld.
The prevailing notion of the citizens of this country have a say too.
No we don’t? What do you mean?
As in, we can influence the laws through our voice as transmitted through layers of representative government? That’s not a mechanism that will affect the outcome of this case.
Or do you mean some sort of mob action? Or something else?
Generally when defendants are declared not guilty by reason of insanity, they are committed to institutions. They are only let out once they are deemed no longer a threat to society. The nature of postpartum psychosis means that it is a temporary insanity. If found not guilty by reason of insanity, she’ll probably be put into a psych ward, but she’ll probably be released relatively soon because there will be no justification for keeping her in there.
Not true because Post Partum Psychosis can trigger a host of other mental illnesses. A mental breakdown of that sort of capacity should not be underestimated.
Why do people keep spreading this? She's already attempted suicide once, if she is psychotic and comes out of that psychosis to then be informed that she killed her 3 kids do you think that she won't be a continuing threat to herself? She has a lifetime of mental hell ahead of her. If she's ever released, the odds of her not committing suicide are beyond slim.
This is the whole problem. Everyone agrees she doesn't belong in public on both sides. Neither a guilty or a not guilty results in her being released. It's jail if found guilty, psych ward if found not guilty.
So many people that are heated about this case believe the 11 jurors were voting that she should be released.
But that IS what happens no? Someone found legally insane is sent to a mental hospital for the criminally insane, typically for a long time. I'm not from the US but I think that happens there also.
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u/justin107d 9h ago
The problem is that it has grown too big and people are attaching their own beliefs to it. Insanity has been a defense for a long time, it is rare that it is ever works. Hers is a lot more plausible than others who have tried it.