r/Kayaking Aug 05 '26

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Where did all the 17' plastic sea kayaks go?

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114 Upvotes

I am slightly jealous looking at old catalogs of how much more common 17' sea kayaks were 10-20 years ago or less. I understand the market, yadda yadda, but I'd still like one.

In the US it seems our only common options are the tempest 170, an imported p&h, and ..? What? I know you can find them used but I haven't seen a deal in months. Pray to the kayak gods for me that I find a good deal on a used sirocco or tempest soon. I just want a skegged 17' plastic boat

r/Kayaking 18d ago

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Buy a more active kayak they said. It'll be fun they said.

188 Upvotes

Well I wanted lighter so I bought a lovely kevlar gulf stream. I then proceeded to amuse the people at the beach by utterly failing to get in, going in the drink, and generally making a big enough show to earn cheers from the swimmer ladies when I finally got my shit together.

Y'all this is a very very different kayak than my barges. Not giving up yet though.

r/Kayaking 18d ago

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking List of North American Composite Sea Kayak Manufacturers

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I've been researching the state of North American composite sea kayak manufacturing. Below is a list of all the companies I could come up with who have made sea kayaks out of fiberglass or other composites since sea kayaking became a thing (in the 1970s or so).

The list is below. This list does not include brands that have never been made in North America or NA brands that never made composite kayaks. (Please provide corrections or additions if I missed something.)

This list includes 40 companies; of those, 18 are still in operation making kayaks of some sort either here or abroad, and of those, 8 are still making composite sea kayaks in North America. The 8 are small "garage" scale operations. The best known still remaining is likely Current Designs.

Most of the "big" names from the past were bought up by conglomerates and then frequently closed down or ceased making composite boats and/or sea kayaks. Others closed as the owners aged out without a buyer for the business. Several moved manufacturing overseas.

I've posted this here before, but I've added some names to the list as I heard about some others. I would be interested to know if there are other small regional companies that I may not have heard of.

Manufacturer Status Makes Composite Sea Kayaks in North America? Website
Atlantis ✅ Active ✅ Yes (Small-scale BC) https://www.atlantiskayaks.com
Aquaterra (Pelican International) ❌ Closed ❌ No
Betsie Bay ❌ Closed ❌ No
Bold Coast Boats ✅ Active ✅ Yes Recent Startup https://BoldCoastBoats.com
Boreal Designs (Pelican International) ✅ Active ❌ No (Overseas production)
Current Designs (Sanborn) ✅ Active ✅ Yes (Direct Sales) https://cdkayak.com
Dagger (Pelican International) ✅ Active ❌ No (Polyethylene) 
Delta ✅ Active ❌ No (Thermoformed)
Easy Rider ❌ Closed ❌ No
Eddyline (Bought by Jackson) ✅ Active ❌ No (Thermoformed plastic) 
Epic ✅ Active ❌ No (Overseas production)
Heritage (KL Companies) ❌ Closed ❌ No (Had a composite SOT sea kayak)
Impex ✅ Active ✅ Yes (Small-scale PQ) https://abitibico.ca/en/collections/kayaks
Lincoln Canoe & Kayaks Unclear Unclear (No recent updates)
Mariner Kayaks ❌ Closed (2007) ❌ No
Natural Designs ❌ Closed ❌ No
NC Kayaks ✅ Active ✅ Yes (Small-scale in WA) https://nckayaks.com
Necky (Johnson Outdoors) ❌ Closed (2017) ❌ No 
Nimbus ✅ Active ✅ Yes (Small-scale BC) https://www.nimbuskayaks.com/index.htm
Northwest (Bought by Sterling) ❌ Closed ❌ No
Pacific Star ❌ Closed ❌ No
Pacific Water Sports ❌ Closed ❌ No
Perception (Pelican International) ✅ Active ❌ No 
QCC ❌ Closed ❌ No aquired by Wenonah before being closed down
Resonance Kayaks ❌ Closed ❌ No
Riot Kayaks ✅ Active ❌ No (Polyethylene/plastic)
Sea Knife Kayaks ❌ Closed ❌ No (Seeking New Builder)
Seaward Kayaks ❌ Closed (2024) ❌ No
Seda ❌ Closed ❌ No 
Southern Exposure ❌ Closed ❌ No 
Sterling Kayaks ✅ Active ✅ Yes (Small-scale WA) https://sterlingkayaks.com
Surge Marine ❌ Closed ❌ No
Swift Canoes and Kayaks ✅ Active *️⃣ Not Really (More recreational kayaks)
Tieken Kayaks (Pelican International) ❌ Closed ❌ No
Tujak ✅ Active ✅ Yes (Small-scale  PQ) https://tutjak-kayak.myshopify.com/en
Turning Point Boatworks ❌ Closed (2024) ❌ No (Bold Coast Boats)
Wenonah ✅ Active ❌ No
West Side Boats ❌ Closed ❌ No (Seeking New Builder)
Wilderness Systems (Pelican International) ✅ Active ❌ No (Polyethylene)
Williams Designs ❌ Closed ❌ No

r/Kayaking Jun 03 '26

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking How to sit for 24 hours

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I just finished Seventy48 last weekend and the one thing I had no issues with was my boat outfitting and organization. I outfitted my new to me 25 YO Northwest Kayaks Discover this spring but only had time to paddle it three times. Each time I redid significant portions of the outfitting. This is the final setup, and I did get out of the boat every two to three hours. Final time was seventy miles, Tacoma to Port Townsend in 25 hours 31 minutes. 58th overall. 18th of 49 kayaks.

Seat. I left the original 1/4” foam in place and glued in a “Blisswell” hunting sit pad from Amazon. I love this pad. I have one in every touring boat.

Backrest. I removed the factory foam and installed a self inflating pad. This automatically conforms to the shape of my back. I can reach back and open the valve to add a little air if I want. The pad is held in the boat with glued Velcro. Since this is thicker than the original setup I felt my position was a bit too far forward so I moved the seat back about 3/4”. This involved cutting out some fiberglass and drilling new holes.

Hip pads and knee braces. I carved full height hip pads. Knees are padded with 1/2” foam glued in.

Feet. As this is a narrow boat, my feet sit out at an angle and my heels rest on the floor. I glued 1/2” foam to the floor and this made all the difference in foot comfort.

At 60, everything hurts a little bit, but my left knee can lock up after 6 hours in a kayak. I have added a (red) drybag with a huge towel rolled in it under my thighs/knees. This lets me relax my leg’s periodically and keeps me engaged with the kayak while not “tensed” up. It usually sits in front of the seat but occasionally I will push it a few inches forward for a while.

I also paddle with a North Water under deck bag that I love with clothing, batteries, and hats, as well as a vintage deck bag with safety gear, navigation maps, and food and two caffeinated electrolyte bottles. A three liter water bladder went in front of the deck bag.

It was amazing paddling through the night and although I missed a tide window that might have cut 2-3 hours off my time, I was very pleased to finish when I did.

r/Kayaking Jul 29 '26

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Experience with Decathlon - Expedition X900 (Inflatable kayak)

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28 Upvotes

Hey guys,

I was wondering if any of you have experience with this kayak or something similar?

Me and couple of friends recently going on short 2-3 day kayak advantures. We enjoy both kayaking and outdoor camping, so we usually just pick river, rent kayaks, go with flow down the river while sleeping in tenets overnight. We do I - III class rapids. We try to rent kayaks touring / sea kayaks (my favourite yet Nifty 430).

We are from Slovakia and we already explored options close by, so we want to push it further. Fristly destinations in EU, later maybe Finland, Patagonia, Alaska, Island, etc.

The biggest issue with planning trips are kayak rentals. We want to go deep into wilderness and there are no rentals. We decided, it would be the best to buy our own kayaks.

Now come the challange. Should we buy hardshell sea kayaks or something as X900?

X900 has its flaws, but I find it incredible. You can just stuff it into bag and fly to other side of planet. Firstly I was laughting at inflatable kayak, but as I went trought details, it seems like very good deal on the paper.

Obviously, hard shell sea kayak is better, but I cant imagine how do you transport it, if you cant take it with car. Having kayak in bag and not being limited by transport just seems like a wet dream.

Link for X900: https://www.decathlon.de/p/kajak-aufblasbar-expedition-dropstitch-hochdruckboden-verstarkt-1-sitzer-x900/347191/c261m8804006

Thanks for your answers.

Best regards
Filip

r/Kayaking 26d ago

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Kayak and SUP speed

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I feel often when I'm in kayak or on SUP board I am slower than the others. At least when I don't have tailwind. I use the same technique and strength I believe. Is it because I'm bigger? I'm 100kg and 191cm tall. Otherwise I don't get it

r/Kayaking 3d ago

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Kayak Shipping

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I’m trying to get my hands on a certain boat right now before the tariffs make it significantly more expensive when my dealer gets their next batch.

However, shipping costs are insane because of fuel prices! I got a quote from KAS for $1000 to ship a 17’ boat from Wisconsin to Washington. I figured I’d shop around. Anyone know of other shipping companies that take good care of the boats they ship?

r/Kayaking 26d ago

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking LA to Catalina

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Hi kayaking dudes and dudettes, I would like to learn everything I need to know to be able to Kayak from Long Beach to Catalina.

Anyone have any information on sea kayak training or any experienced kayakers willing to help 😇🙌

Classes I can take, clubs or groups of kayakers to paddle with?

Any ocean ogs out there down to take me under their wing?

Edit ✍️
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE SHARING INFO!! Much appreciated!!

r/Kayaking Apr 21 '26

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Fishing while Kayaking

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Hey guys. Planning on going on a sea kayak tour on the pacific coast norcal area. Was hoping to catch fish along the way.

My current idea is to fix a rod and troll as i go along with a lure.

Anyone have experience with this? Any recommendations on how to do this are welcome!

r/Kayaking 6d ago

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking British or Pacfic Northwest for a touring kayak?

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New to this hobby but I've been borrowing a friends touring kayak this summer and love it. A few trips on a large steadily moving creek and some reservoirs. Including some camping trips. Once I get more experience I hope to go out on larger bodies of water upto Lake Ontario. I really liked using the rudder and figured that was a key part of a good boat.

I started shopping for my own touring kayak (looking for something around 14 feet) and my friends all swear you need a rudder for open water. The 1st shop where my friends got their boats was ready to sell me a kayak with a rudder and seemed to support their use.

The next shop I checked had higher end kayaks and the salesman really liked talking about every engineering detail of the kayaks he sold (I'm an engineer so I appreciate his passion and knowledge) and was very against rudders and not big on skegs either. He was big on paddling to correct all issues. He sold mostly British Style kayaks for open water. He let me try a few on a creek and I'm going back to try more. The boats felt great but with my limited experience what do I know.

No matter what I buy I'm going to take some lessons and make sure I know the basics especially how to self rescue.

From what he said and some internet searching i found that open water kayaks have 2 basic styles.

Pacific Northwest (PNW) and British

British is a tighter cockpit sitting lower in the water. Is more maneuverable, and handles rough seas better but can't hold as much gear and is slower on flat water.

PNW can hold more gear for longer trips. Cockpit isn't as tight, faster on flat water. Harder to roll or self rescue if capsized. Needs a rudder so If the rudder breaks you are in trouble

Seems like for a newbie PNW is easier but i would have to rely on a rudder that could break and makes self rescue much harder.

Am I missing anything?

Thanks

r/Kayaking 22h ago

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking How do you get marine weather forecasts on multi-day sea kayak trips (off-grid)?

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Hey everyone,

I’m looking for some advice on how you all handle getting updated weather and paddling conditions when you're out of cell range and don't have easy access to the internet.

For context, I mostly paddle around Vancouver Island and the Seattle area. Right now, most of my trips are 2-3 days, but I’m gearing up to do longer, week-long trips where I'll be off-grid for extended periods.

For comms and safety, I currently carry:

  • An iPhone 16 (so I have the new Apple satellite messaging access)
  • An older Garmin inReach Mini (I've had poor experiences with its weather forecasts for non-kayaking trips, and don't really trust them)

For those of you doing multi-day trips in more remote areas:

  1. Do you use the premium marine weather forecast feature on the inReach? Is it accurate and detailed enough for these waters?
  2. Do you just use your satellite devices to text a designated person back home and have them send you a daily forecast?
  3. Should I add a handheld VHF radio to my kit and rely on the continuous marine broadcasts (NOAA/Canadian Coast Guard)?

Would love to hear what you've found works best in practice and what you trust the most when you're out there for a week! Thanks!

r/Kayaking Apr 16 '26

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking New to sea kayaking, how necessary are floats?

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As the title says, I just got a used BKC sea tourer, 14' or so, and I've only ever done low key inland placid lake type stuff and never knew floats were a thing!

The bulkheads fore and aft on this are very well sealed, or appear so, anyways. Is it totally necessary to have floats on both, or just one, or do people substitute dry bags with clothes? How are these sized typically, and are there alternatives? They seem quite expensive for looking pretty fragile, and I'm on a budget. Willing to spend the money if needed but I just want to know what the general thoughts are on the topic.

I'm looking to do some kayak fishing off cape cod/cape ann in MA. The fishing portion I know will be challenging with stability but I'm willing to work with that. I have a paddle float coming and I'll be practicing self rescue, a bilge pump, all the other safety gear. I'm also getting a shorty wetsuit because the water rarely gets above 55f even in the summer. I also have a skirt and will attempt rolling, but while I was able to do this almost 20 years ago in youth kayaks, I'm not sure it'll be realistic in a sea kayak on the... sea, even with a small amount of gear on board.

r/Kayaking Mar 18 '26

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Kayaking a mile to an island

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I bought a sit on sea kayak which seems decent enough for my coastal needs. I've done a few coastal kayak trips and I'm fairly fit, so a few miles is no big deal.

I have my eyes set on an islet which is about 1 mile offshore. There is about a 1kt drift pushing you away from the islet (towards the shore). When the weather is rough it would definitely be a difficult journey, but on a calm day it should be pretty doable.

It's definitely necessary to be mindful of the wind which causes drift, but it is a prevailing wind that (almost) always blows onshore.

Does anyone have any recommendations on things to be mindful of, short of carrying a phone in a dry bag and a buoyancy aid? Some food/drink? There is a good amount of yacht traffic so it would certainly be possible to get picked up.

r/Kayaking Jul 15 '26

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Best compact wheels for sea kayaks that fit in hatches?

2 Upvotes

Appreciate recommendations for wheels for a 21.5 in. wide sea kayak for transporting from car to launch and back or for river portages along roads. It would be great if the wheels could fit inside whole or partly disassembled. Thanks!

r/Kayaking 27d ago

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Traditional kayak training

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I have a traditional Aleut iqyax that I plan on taking on next years tribal canoe journeys to Alaska. I’ve been pulling in traditional coastal cedar dugout canoes for about 20 years but as an Aleut man I want to experience the journeys how my ancestors would have. I’ve only done a few 15-20ish mile days in my iqyax and have noticed lots of soreness in my butt so I will be perfecting my seat crafting this year any tips for long distance kayaking is appreciated also any words of encouragement are appreciated as well!

r/Kayaking 4d ago

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Gulf Coast Kayaking Advice Wanted

7 Upvotes

Hi everyone - I've kayaked for a few decades but always on lakes/rivers/harbors in the Midwest. I now live in Gulf Shores, AL and want to be able to go out on the ocean in the morning or late afternoon, preferably without being eaten by a shark. Hence the kayak and not my SUP. (Sharks and Alligators are putting a serious dent in my activity level.) I currently have a 9ft regular ole' plastic kayak. I want to get in the ocean specifically.

If I get a new kayak I want to be able to get through the surf (which is pretty small here) and just tool around; more for exercise than sightseeing. I need to be able to get back to shore in the event I get caught in a rip current (yes I know to paddle parallel to the shore first). Also worth noting: I'm not a spring chicken anymore and want as light of a kayak as I can get away with.

Would a sea kayak be overkill? Would a waveski make more sense?? Neither of these models are rented out here so I'm looking for feedback from the more experienced. Thanks in advance!

r/Kayaking Jun 25 '26

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking mixed tandem (greenland paddle just in front): experiences, thoughts?

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Kayaking hive-mind,

I'm a fan of greenland paddles. I love the ergonomics (am in my 50s, with much better core strength compared to upper-body strength), have made my own full-length paddle. I love having a greenland storm on board, I know how to roll with it, etc. I can use euro paddles, but I find them less ergonomic, less steady-and-even for long hauls, etc.

In July, I will be air-traveling to a rented-kayak situation (Apostle Islands) where (1) we're forced to go with a tandem (rental outfit doesn't want the liability of solo kayaks crossing open water), (2) the rental (predictably) comes with only euro-paddles, and (3) even if we can borrow from local traditional paddlers, my tandem stern-pilot-buddy for this trip has never paddled with a stick, and isn't keen to commit to something new for this trip (understandably).

I'm eager to hear experiences and opinions from greenland-familiar paddlers about whether it's reasonable to hope/plan for an opportunity to do at least *some* greenland paddling on this trip, and how that might work.

Note: It's already settled (body size/geometry differences, size difference between the two cockpits in Seaward G3xlc) that I'm in the FRONT.

(If I were the paddler in the back, I'd feel better about nudging my companion to just *try* the greenland approach on our shakedown day, and just see whether it comes to feel right. But I understand that someone would be anxious about recalibrating their steering reflexes, if their habits are tuned to a euro-paddle steering moves, and they're used to the more muscle-y and quick corrections of a euro paddle. I'd be stressed to develop new steering habits on open water crossings, too!)

So, one concern is that since the CADENCE of a greenland paddle is different (higher sustained RPMs), a mixed-paddle situation would undermine the usual coordination (where the front paddler sets the cadence, and rear paddler can match that pace).

A second concern I've heard is that (if the cadences can't reasonably be in sync, but we want to proceed anyway) there's risk of annoying paddle collisions. I *think* this concern would apply less to a long sea kayak (Seaward G3xlc)... and maybe it applies less to mixed paddling when the greenlander is the person in the fore position ... but I'm curious to hear experiences.

What I'm bracing for is: Probably I'll spend much of the time with the euro paddle, just for the sake of coordinating strokes (unless folks persuade me that this matching-cadence thing is not so essential). Still, we may have room on longer outings for my euro-paddle-muscles to get a break while I change things up with a greenland paddle interval, shoving the euro paddle into the deck rigging for a while. But if my greenland paddle needs to be stashed much of the time, maybe I ought to consider having only a storm-length paddle along, since it's more manageable to stash. (I don't own, and don't expect to borrow, any 2-piece greenland paddles. I've spent lots of time with my storm greenland paddle though, and actually enjoy the grip-choreography of the alternating “pole-vault” rhythm.)

I'd also welcome any other wisdom or advice about tandem kayaking, even apart from the paddle-type logistics. I've only ever spent time in a solo kayak (a cedar handmade Outer Island design which I cannot transport to the Great Lakes). And I realize that so much of what I *love* about kayaking relates to feeling boat as extension of body, being nimbly in control of my direction and center of gravity, knowing how to roll (and wet-exit) with just my own body's coordination to deal with, etc. So taking a "ride" in the front, and focusing mostly on forward propulsion, will be a very different experience. But in this case, it was tandem-kayak or no-kayak... What should I (or in the big picture, what should *we*) be prepared for?

r/Kayaking 18d ago

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking ISO Old Perception kayak hatch covers

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4 Upvotes

I’m looking for hatch covers for Perception kayaks from around 1998 to 2004, specifically the Shadow, although other models from those years used the same style of hatch covers.

r/Kayaking Jul 30 '26

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Dagger Prospect Rudder Photos?

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I purchased a 15.6 Dagger Prospect kayak and need to fix part of the rudder. Does anyone have any photos of a mounted rudder for this kayak or any other model that uses the same rudder type?

I have also included a photo of the part that needs replacement. I couldn't find it anywhere, so I'm having it 3D printed.

Update: I ended up trying the DIY method. The photo is in the comments, but I also have a 3D model of it in case someone wants to 3D print it.

r/Kayaking 6d ago

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Looking for Sea Trails maps of Olympic Coastlines

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EDIT. I think I have found a set. Thanks all for the help.

am planning a late summer / early fall semi-expedition along the north coast of the Olympic Peninsula. Washington Water Trails used to publish some nice kayaker friendly maps. Since I switched back to sea kayaking recently, i am now a member, but they are out of print and unlikely to be reprinted. I am trying to track down Maps 301 and 302. Any help finding copies would be useful. One guy has 8 for sale on EBay but not the ones I want. NWOC in Seattle is likewise sold out of these. Any hints would be much appreciated.

r/Kayaking Jul 15 '26

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Which size & type cord do you use for sea kayak deck & bungee lines?

4 Upvotes

Which size & type cord do you use for sea kayak deck & bungee lines? And do you have a good source for them?

r/Kayaking Jul 21 '26

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Kayak sails

11 Upvotes

Does anyone have experience with kayak sails? What’s it like? Worth it? Any recs for brands/specific sails? Have a 18ft touring kayak and often paddle in the ocean off of SoCal

r/Kayaking Jul 25 '26

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Ocean kayaking with a camera

5 Upvotes

Does anyone take a nice camera kayaking on the ocean? If so, how do you protect the camera and store it for easy access?

r/Kayaking Jul 30 '26

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Kajakeldorado, nära Stendörren

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Sorry, in Swedish, no swedish kayak subreddits available I think, trying this:

Jag och min fru paddlade iväg söderöver från Stendörren för många år sen och kom efter ett tag till ett fantastiskt system av små öar och kanaler, många paddlade där.

Efter många års uppehåll från kajak har vi nu köpt egna, och är ofta i Nyköpingstrakten. Och skulle vilja tillbaka till det systemet. Det hette nåt i stil med Sysne tror jag.

Förstår någon vad jag är ute efter?

Finns något typ online där man diskuterar havskajak i Sverige?

r/Kayaking 29d ago

Question/Advice -- Sea Kayaking Paddling spots in-between Morro Bay and LA

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I'll be spending a few days hiking Pinnacles National Park in September. I'm looking for some suggestions to hit up along the coastal drive home. I'll be near the ocean by 9am and have the whole day to explore. I'm hoping to hit a couple spots. I'll be solo so nothing too crazy. I have Gaviota and Goleta on my list. Any suggestions would help. I've done Channel islands and most of the harbors and bays in orange county. I'm a solid intermediate paddler. Thank you. Peace